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1. I understand why you are annoyed by people who interpret Moore's films as the absolute truth. I understand why people are annoyed that Moore insists that everything he says is the absolute truth and reinforces that flawed notion when his fans express it. But people are responsible for their own handle on the truth or lack thereof, and Moore's job as a director is to make a film that moves and entertains people. Again, though, I see where you and many others are coming from.
2. Socialism is absolutely nothing like fascism. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say because you states that socialism and fascism are similar and then you say that communist totalitariansm and fascist totalitarianism have very little in common... did I read that wrong? I'm a bit confused by the point you're trying to make.
I think I may not have stated my point very well, either. What I was trying to say is this: Michael Moore is very consistent with his themes, which are about holding wealthy and powerful people accountable for their corruption (with a bias leaning left as we all know) and prohibiting corporations, special interests, and the media from taking the reigns over public policies ranging from gun control to health care and foreign policy. He wants the federal government to keep these sectors in check and believes they have failed to do so and it has been harmful to millions of Americans. Equating this approach to endorsing totalitarianism is more disingenuous than anything Moore has ever accused his opponents of.
Mussolini created Facism as direct opposition to Communism, he advocated a strong social class system, he even stated that Facism should be called Corporatism "because it is a merger of state and corporate power”.
Communism seeks to abolish social classes, it seeks to abolish corporate power, it was only with the corruptions in both ideologies that the similarites existed.
Based on this thread and the fact that people are still talking about him? His 15 mins are far from over. I cannot wait for his next work of brilliance to come out.
. TAKE ALL GOVERNMENTAL HANDS OFF BUSINESS AND YOU WILL FINALLY SEE AN END TO CORPORATISM. You want more corporatism? Just nationalize the economy, just like Mussolini did.
We saw the result of taking all government hands of of business right here in the USA back in the 19th. century.
A libertarian who supports a government-business collaboration and resists individual freedom. I think that disqualifies you.
And exactly what horrible things existed before government stepped in to protect us from our own selves?
A libertarian who supports a government-business collaboration and resists individual freedom. I think that disqualifies you.
And exactly what horrible things existed before government stepped in to protect us from our own selves?
And exactly what horrible things existed before government stepped in to protect us from our own selves?
Child labor
Horrible work hours
unsafe work conditions
unsafe products
unfair pay
exploitation of minorities
should I go on?
I think that some of our local libertarians should be strapped down and forced to read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle," and then force-fed a hamburger.
A libertarian who supports a government-business collaboration and resists individual freedom. I think that disqualifies you.
And exactly what horrible things existed before government stepped in to protect us from our own selves?
Based on this thread and the fact that people are still talking about him? His 15 mins are far from over. I cannot wait for his next work of brilliance to come out.
Actually even before the creation of saving people from evil capitalists, the U.S. was one of the top 6 countries, in regards to life expectancy.
Government had little to do with protecting us from the "evil."
Those things still existed, and needed to be stopped.
Child labor
Horrible work hours
unsafe work conditions
unsafe products
unfair pay
exploitation of minorities
should I go on?
From the history books:
The pure food and drug act
consumer protection acts
the clean air and water acts
other liberals and independents can name more
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