Do you expect a war in Europe because of the Ukraine crisis?

[Rumpel]

Do you expect a war in Europe because of the Ukraine crisis?

 

[phoenix2020]

So far 1 out of 2 people implicitly state that they do not believe it will happen.

 

[RetiredUSN]

35%% of Ukrainians have a favorable view of unification.

Russian citizens ae not in favor of a invasion, but are fairly united in believing that NATO, USA, and other western influences are a real threat to Russia via Ukraine..

Vlad has political wiggle room either way.

Polls show Russian public opinion united on Ukraine

In spite of Russian assurances that it does not intend to invade Ukraine, troop build-ups on both sides of the border continue to alarm Western ...

www.intellinews.com

We'll see I guess.

 

[Rumpel]

Things don't look good ...

 

[Monica33]

The game remains about control of gas exports into Europe and the chance of a Russian invasion of Ukraine remains at zero .
Let's hope that the present ineffective US tactics do not descend further to creating False Flags in the New Republics in order to try and blame Russia for aggression .
As they did with chemical false flags in Syria .

Sleepy and his controllers are desperate to obtain control of the gas supplies into Europe whilst deflecting from the Covid hoax which is fast evaporating as people at long last begin to wake up .

 

[j brown's body]

I think Russia will invade. I think the west will respond with harsh sanctions and support for the Ukraine opposition.

 

[j brown's body]

The game remains about control of gas exports into Europe and the chance of a Russian invasion of Ukraine remains at zero .
Let's hope that the present ineffective US tactics do not descend further to creating False Flags in the New Republics in order to try and blame Russia for aggression .
As they did with chemical false flags in Syria .

Sleepy and his controllers are desperate to obtain control of the gas supplies into Europe whilst deflecting from the Covid hoax which is fast evaporating as people at long last begin to wake up .

If covid is evaporating, there isn't a reason to deflect it. With about a million dead from it, its kind of hard to see it as a hoax. But then, I don't watch Fox News. But hats off to Biden for "evaporating" it.

 

[Monica33]

If covid is evaporating, there isn't a reason to deflect it. With about a million dead from it, its kind of hard to see it as a hoax. But then, I don't watch Fox News. But hats off to Biden for "evaporating" it.

Covid is about fear and control and that is what has held the most error strewn narrative ever together with the Gullibles over over the last two years .

Covid killed very few people once you examine true figures --- distinguishing between those who died' with it' as distinct' from it' , and extracting the bribery factor to give large bonus and incentive payments to those writing Covid on the appropriate paper work . etc etc

And once you cancelled preventative treatment (C, D and ZN at simplest ) and early case treatments ( IVM and HCQ etc ) it was 'easy' to let people die by giving them virtual death treatment with a ventilator.

The new Covid narrative is only about how safe and effective the innoculations are --- and if you believe that you should also have little difficulty in believing that the moon is made of cream cheese .

 

[NWRatCon]

Ukraine is in Europe. So there already is a war in Europe.

 

[Rumpel]

Ukraine is in Europe. So there already is a war in Europe.

You have got a point there.

What I mean is: A war between NATO and Russia.

 

[Rumpel]

Now 4 out of 11 say:

I am not sure, but I do not think it likely​

 

[Nilhus]

Ambiguous question, probably deliberately so.
On the one hand "war in Europe" can simply mean "war in Ukraine" since Ukraine is in Europe, on the other hand others might interpret it as meaning "war spreading to countries other than Ukraine"
It's a propaganda technique, making Ukraine to be mistaken for the whole of Europe and also amplifying the perception of danger, as if it's the whole of Europe that gets attacked if Ukraine gets attacked.

 

[Rumpel]

on the other hand others might interpret it as meaning "war spreading to countries other than Ukraine"

That is exactly what I meant.

And with "War in Europe" I was also referring to a voice of reason that warned of a "War in Europe" - in the times before 1914.
And with "War in Europe" that voice did not mean something like war between, say: Iceland and Denmark - but war on a greater scale.

 

[Rumpel]

It's a propaganda technique, making Ukraine to be mistaken for the whole of Europe and also amplifying the perception of danger, as if it's the whole of Europe that gets attacked if Ukraine gets attacked.

Sorry - but I asked my quetion in all innocence. I am not a specialist in propaganda techniques.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Czechoslovakia all over again.

 

[Cardinal]

Do you expect a war in Europe because of the Ukraine crisis?

Well…a war between Ukraine and Russia is a war in Europe, but I know what you mean. No, it will not spill out into the rest of Europe. Biden has made it explicitly clear that that’s not where this is going. We’re not getting into a shooting war with the most nuclear-armed country on earth.

 

[Tender Branson]

Just a matter of time until Putin orders the invasion.

Tomorrow the Olympics are over and Putin doesn’t invade until then so he doesn’t spoil the show of his friend Xi.

But on Monday or thereafter, the sh*t will start to hit the fan …

 

[reinaert]

You have got a point there.

What I mean is: A war between NATO and Russia.

No. Russia's nuclear threshold is very low.

 

[code1211]

Do you expect a war in Europe because of the Ukraine crisis?

Seems like Ukraine is in the toilet bowl and the West has its collective hand on the flush lever.

Nothing like this has ever happened before. At least, not since 1938.

 

[The flaming lib]

Let’s the Europeans and ruskies fight it out.

 

[Rumpel]

No. Russia's nuclear threshold is very low.

What do you mean by that?

 

[reinaert]

What do you mean by that?

Russia's policy threshold for the use of nuclear weapons is much lower than those of the other UNSC countries because it has no force projection or occupation capacity beyond the isolated Near Abroad. Maybe Pakistan's threshold is lower in a conflict with India, but otherwise, Russia will and must 'go to nukes' much more rapidly than the US, China, France, England and Israel.

 

[NWRatCon]

Russia's policy threshold for the use of nuclear weapons is much lower than those of the other UNSC countries because it has no force projection or occupation capacity beyond the isolated Near Abroad. Maybe Pakistan's threshold is lower in a conflict with India, but otherwise, Russia will and must 'go to nukes' much more rapidly than the US, China, France, England and Israel.

I think the risk of Russia using nukes is very low, particularly in Ukraine. Putin may be a sociopath, but he's not stupid. Russians don't hate Ukrainians. They consider them family.

 

[Rumpel]

Russians don't hate Ukrainians. They consider them family.

Then Putin should be nicer to Ukraine.

 

[NWRatCon]

Then Putin should be nicer to Ukraine.

He should, but, did I mention he's a sociopath?