Do You Believe There Is...

[Quag]

Prove GOD doesn't exist. Prove that scientists can make biological life from water, dirt, and electricity. Prove that Israel was not promised in the Bible that they would be reborn a new nation. Prove that life exists on other planets. Prove that JESUS in not the SON of GOD in the flesh. You don't provide anything, nothing, nada! At least I have provided something.

You are trying to reverse the burden of proof.
Logical fallacies and claims are not proof let alone evidence
Bolded is clearly false

 

[LittleNipper]

You are trying to reverse the burden of proof.
Logical fallacies and claims are not proof let alone evidence
Bolded is clearly false

If you don't wish to believe something, that's okay; however, if you are trying to dissuade others of such a belief, then the burden is on you.

 

[Quag]

If you don't wish to believe something, that's okay; however, if you are trying to dissuade others of such a belief, then the burden is on you.

I am merely pointing out the fact (not opinion, not belief) that you have no evidence let alone proof for your beliefs.
If you wish to believe something that is ok but if you are trying to convince someone to hold your beliefs thenthe burden of proof is upon you
If you try to force your beliefs onto others then I will oppose you

 

[LittleNipper]

I am merely pointing out the fact (not opinion, not belief) that you have no evidence let alone proof for your beliefs.
If you wish to believe something that is ok but if you are trying to convince someone to hold your beliefs thenthe burden of proof is upon you
If you try to force your beliefs onto others then I will oppose you

Do you know that Jimmy Dodd was a born-again Christian. Consider the following:

Saturday, February 27, 2016​

Phil. 3:17 Portrait - Remembering Jimmie Dodd (1910-1964)​

Philipians 3:17 -

Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

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My apologies for any confusion that may come from the first sentence; this blog article was originally supposed to be posted the first week of October in 2015.

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Jimmie Dodd, c. 1955. Photo from non-commercial use source

Saturday, October 3rd was the 60th anniversary of the premiere of the original Mickey Mouse Club on ABC-TV back in 1955. While the famous opening song declared the mouse as the leader of the club, there is almost no doubt the real leader was singer, songwriter Jimmie Dodd. Watching re-runs of the Mickey Mouse Club late at night on the Disney Channel, I was struck at episodes in which Dodd referenced scriptures from the Bible as he spoke directly to audiences while strumming his guitar.

After several decades it is still not generally known that Dodd and his wife Ruth were born-again Christians and that he served as president of the Hollywood Christian Group in 1958 and 1959. The Hollywood Christian Group was a collection of movie stars who embraced the Gospel during the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s which included celebrities like Roy Rogers, Dale Evans Rogers, and Jane Russell. The closest the Walt Disney Company probably ever came to releasing a Gospel album was the 1957 album "Mouskehymns" and a 1966 gospel album with songs written or arranged by Dodd.

A few years before he passed, Dodd completed the album Children's Bible Story-Time : Jimmie Dodd for Word Records Incorporated of Waco, Texas. This album is Jimmie at his best; his narrative voice and easy guitar playing.

A few years ago I included an excerpt of this album for my first digital project on Bible storytelling media. Click HERE to here Dodd tell "The Parable of the Sower and the Seed" The entire article is to be found here: https://familybiblemedia.blogspot.com/2016/02/phil-317-portrait-remembering-jimmie.html

Now you might ask what this has to do with anything, but I'd say that GOD reveals HIMSELF through those that love HIM. And so Christians are indeed different from other people. And it isn't because they are better, but it's because they are filled with the HOLY SPIRIT and are being used of GOD. A person cannot be a Christian if there is no GOD, and they wouldn't be different from the general population if there was no GOD. So, I say find yourself a real CHRISTIAN and you will find out that GOD exists.

 

[Quag]

Do you know that Jimmy Dodd was a born-again Christian. Consider the following:

Saturday, February 27, 2016​

Phil. 3:17 Portrait - Remembering Jimmie Dodd (1910-1964)​

Philipians 3:17 -

Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

​

My apologies for any confusion that may come from the first sentence; this blog article was originally supposed to be posted the first week of October in 2015.

​

Jimmie Dodd, c. 1955. Photo from non-commercial use source

Saturday, October 3rd was the 60th anniversary of the premiere of the original Mickey Mouse Club on ABC-TV back in 1955. While the famous opening song declared the mouse as the leader of the club, there is almost no doubt the real leader was singer, songwriter Jimmie Dodd. Watching re-runs of the Mickey Mouse Club late at night on the Disney Channel, I was struck at episodes in which Dodd referenced scriptures from the Bible as he spoke directly to audiences while strumming his guitar.

After several decades it is still not generally known that Dodd and his wife Ruth were born-again Christians and that he served as president of the Hollywood Christian Group in 1958 and 1959. The Hollywood Christian Group was a collection of movie stars who embraced the Gospel during the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s which included celebrities like Roy Rogers, Dale Evans Rogers, and Jane Russell. The closest the Walt Disney Company probably ever came to releasing a Gospel album was the 1957 album "Mouskehymns" and a 1966 gospel album with songs written or arranged by Dodd.

A few years before he passed, Dodd completed the album Children's Bible Story-Time : Jimmie Dodd for Word Records Incorporated of Waco, Texas. This album is Jimmie at his best; his narrative voice and easy guitar playing.

A few years ago I included an excerpt of this album for my first digital project on Bible storytelling media. Click HERE to here Dodd tell "The Parable of the Sower and the Seed" The entire article is to be found here: https://familybiblemedia.blogspot.com/2016/02/phil-317-portrait-remembering-jimmie.html

Now you might ask what this has to do with anything, but I'd say that GOD reveals HIMSELF through those that love HIM. And so Christians are indeed different from other people. And it isn't because they are better, but it's because they are filled with the HOLY SPIRIT and are being used of GOD. A person cannot be a Christian if there is no GOD, and they wouldn't be different from the general population if there was no GOD. So, I say find yourself a real CHRISTIAN and you will find out that GOD exists.

The personal beliefs of someone is not evidence of their belief

 

[Lisa]

There is no objective evidence of any god existing.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Where do you stand at this point in your life on your belief in a higher power?

Do you believe there is...
a) only one God
b) a god of your own making
c) many gods
d) no gods
e) etc...share in comments.

Also, please don't make fun of other's answer. If you disagree with them, just scroll on.

I follow Christian faith

Jesus Christ

 

[LittleNipper]

The personal beliefs of someone is not evidence of their belief

One's behavior presents a very persuasive presentation that the lives of Christians have been transformed by GOD. By their fruits you will know them.

 

[Lisa]

One's behavior presents a very persuasive presentation that the lives of Christians have been transformed by GOD. By their fruits you will know them.

Donald Trump's former spiritual adviser indicted for child sex crimes

A Texan megachurch pastor who hosted fundraisers for Donald Trump—and served on Trump's evangelical advisory board—is indicted on child sex charges.

www.newsweek.com

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article311959930.html

Church leaders arrested in multi-state money laundering, forced labor investigation

Two church leaders have been arrested in an alleged multi-million-dollar conspiracy after multiple FBI raids across the country on Wednesday morning, including one in Hillsborough County's exclusive Avila neighborhood.

www.fox13news.com

'Church' leaders arrested in alleged trafficking ring that solicited $50M in donations

A trafficking ring forced call center workers to solicit donations under the guise that they were working for a religious ministry, prosecutors say.

www.usatoday.com

13 Headlines That Reveal a Troubling Pattern of Youth Pastor Arrests

Youth pastor arrests are making national headlines and raising urgent questions about accountability in church leadership. Here are 13 troubling cases every believer should be aware of.

churchleaders.com

Stark and Wayne County pastor accused of kidnapping, sex abuse of a minor - BishopAccountability.org

CANTON − A Stark and Wayne County pastor is accused of kidnapping and sexually abusing a minor during a camping trip last year in Ashland County. The Rev. Jesse Santos, 59, pastor of the Canton Seventh-day Adventist Church in Plain Township, was initially arrested by Stark County sheriff’s...

www.bishop-accountability.org

 

[Quag]

One's behavior presents a very persuasive presentation that the lives of Christians have been transformed by GOD. By their fruits you will know them.

Others have had similar transformations in their lives due to their beleifs in other God(s), religions, politics etc what we can actually say is that belief ican have a major impact upon people but that doesnt mean that any of their beleifs are facts

 

[LittleNipper]

Others have had similar transformations in their lives due to their beleifs in other God(s), religions, politics etc what we can actually say is that belief ican have a major impact upon people but that doesnt mean that any of their beleifs are facts

Pretense cannot change a life with any permanence.

Matthew 13​

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The Parable of the Sower​

13 That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake. 2 Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat in it, while all the people stood on the shore. 3 Then he told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. 9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.”

10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:

“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

I believe that verse 11 explains why some understand that GOD is TRIUNE and others simply don't understand it. This is the way GOD works.

 

[Quag]

Pretense cannot change a life with any permanence.

Matthew 13​

​

The Parable of the Sower​

13 That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake. 2 Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat in it, while all the people stood on the shore. 3 Then he told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. 9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.”

10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:

“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

I believe that verse 11 explains why some understand that GOD is TRIUNE and others simply don't understand it. This is the way GOD works.

Using the Bible to prove the bible doenst work

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Where do you stand at this point in your life on your belief in a higher power?

Do you believe there is...
a) only one God
b) a god of your own making
c) many gods
d) no gods
e) etc...share in comments.

Also, please don't make fun of other's answer. If you disagree with them, just scroll on.

I think there are thousands of gods.
All manufactured in the imaginations of men.

 

[Daisy]

I believe there is ONE True God named Jehovah and there is no other, just as the Bible states, not 3 in one...

“This is what Jehovah says, the Creator of the heavens, the true God, the One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it to be inhabited: ‘I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.’” Isaiah 45:18

 

[LittleNipper]

Using the Bible to prove the bible doenst work

The Bible does work, but by confounding those that have an agenda/bias rather than seeking the LORD's teaching. The following verses seem to indicate that GOD's methods will undermine human expectations and logic. Humility is necessary for spiritual comprehension ---- while intellectual pride works to obscure understanding..

1 Corinthians 1:19: "God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong". 1 Corinthians 1:27: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Proverbs 3:5–6: "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight".
The Bible warns against those who "with itching ears" will gather teachers who say what they wish to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

 

[Risky Thicket]

Where do you stand at this point in your life on your belief in a higher power?

Do you believe there is...
a) only one God
b) a god of your own making
c) many gods
d) no gods
e) etc...share in comments.

Also, please don't make fun of other's answer. If you disagree with them, just scroll on.

Many paths one destination.

 

[LittleNipper]

I believe there is ONE True God named Jehovah and there is no other, just as the Bible states, not 3 in one...

“This is what Jehovah says, the Creator of the heavens, the true God, the One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, but formed it to be inhabited: ‘I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.’” Isaiah 45:18

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However, in Colossians we are told in verse 16 For by HIM (CHRIST) all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through HIM (CHRIST) and for HIM (CHRIST). 17 HE (CHRIST) is before all things, and in HIM (CHRIST) all things hold together.

 

[Quag]

The Bible does work, but by confounding those that have an agenda/bias rather than seeking the LORD's teaching. The following verses seem to indicate that GOD's methods will undermine human expectations and logic. Humility is necessary for spiritual comprehension ---- while intellectual pride works to obscure understanding..

1 Corinthians 1:19: "God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong". 1 Corinthians 1:27: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Proverbs 3:5–6: "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight".
The Bible warns against those who "with itching ears" will gather teachers who say what they wish to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

Nope you cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible
The quotes from the Bible are meaningless to the discussion as they fail to prove anythin at all. They never can as they are the claim and a claim cannot be used as evidence of the claim simple basic logic
Got any actual evidence of just logical fallacies?

 

[LittleNipper]

Nope you cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible
The quotes from the Bible are meaningless to the discussion as they fail to prove anythin at all. They never can as they are the claim and a claim cannot be used as evidence of the claim simple basic logic
Got any actual evidence of just logical fallacies?

Then you cannot use science to prove science. Scientific quotes by scientists are meaningless to the discussion, as they fail to prove anything at all.

And you cannot use atheism to prove atheism. Agnostic quotes by atheists are meaningless to the discussion, as they fail to prove anything at all...

 

[Quag]

Then you cannot use science to prove science. Scientific quotes by scientists are meaningless to the discussion, as they fail to prove anything at all.

Umm science tests itself all the time as that is science. You have a computer because of science you can drive a car to the airport get on a plane and fly to a tropical destination and get on a cruise liner because fo science

And you cannot use atheism to prove atheism. Agnostic quotes by atheists are meaningless to the discussion, as they fail to prove anything at all...

Atheism deosnt require proof as it is not making claims it is just lacking a belief. Agnosticism is admitting that you do not know which is treu as there is no evidence one way or the other. You can be an agnostic theist or agnostic atheist, as you can believe but admit you do not know.

The Bible is just claims, claims are not evidence of the claims