Do you believe Donald Trump's fentanyl policies saved the lives of up to 258 million Americans? (1 Viewer)

[gman]

Does this mean that half of trump’s votes were cast by people who didn’t even know what day it was or just saw a line and thought everyone there was lining up to buy weed

 

[Kelby]

it was a gaffe

we laugh at gaffe's and think they're acceptable and funny and move on - we did it for the last 4 years

Gaffe, huh?

Monday it was 21 million lives.

Tuesday it was 119 million lives.

Wednesday it was 258 million lives.

 

[gman]

Gaffe, huh?

Monday it was 21 million lives.

Tuesday it was 119 million lives.

Wednesday it was 258 million lives.

And the laughs, er gaffes just keep on coming.

 

[Objective Voice]

you weren't listening. typically they show the contraband, give the weight or count and then say "that's enough to kill ( so many people)".
It's pure grandstanding but also very common

Let me say it again...

I have never heard a Police Chief or the leader of a drug task force give specifics on the number of people their haul of illicit drugs would have killed had they not taken those drugs off the streets.

Perhaps such details were provided at a drug task force press conference, but in the news segments I've seen, I've never heard estimates on fatalities from a drug seizure provided.

 

[lynnwinslow]

I've been told for 5 years gaffe's are ok

are they not ?

That's an answer to a question that I didn't ask.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Unfortunately it's turned into one of those 'facts of life', hasn't it?

So is shit on my ass after pooping

I still wipe though

I think this . . .
. . . being the most likely, frankly.

Is this you attempt to make the case that 119 million Americans would have died if not for that fentanyl being seized?

Or are you just stating that you understand why they told a lie with that number?

"Today is Fentanyl Awareness Day. In President Trump’s first 100 days we’ve seized over 22 million fentanyl laced pills, saving over 119 Million lives," Bondi said​

Bondi seems to be assuming that 119 million people will get together and split each pill six ways

Even if we accept the nonsensical idea that each bit of fentanyl seized = lives saved,
SHE'S STILL LYING

 

[eohrnberger]

Yes I did. The Bondi lie is what we're talking about in this thread is objective, we have no reason to believe that many millions of Americans are taking fentanyl.
That's a number, so go ahead and argue about factual numbers. That's not subjective.

<sigh> If you don't want to consider the forest, OK fine.

nobody (chooses) to understand cops use the formula 2 milligrams is a fatal dose. so if 10 milligrams are seized that is "5 lives"
This place is dumbing me down

This is in fact common parlance for this subject. Why you are trying to hoax it into lying is beyond me.

And you haven't explained why you haven't objection to Trump's daily parade of absurd lies.

Yeah, this most definitely subjective for the reasons I've sighted previously.

Besides, since when did you turn into a both-sider?

More being subjective.

If you're a both sider now then tell us a lie you acknowledge that trump told. You can admit Bondi lied so how about get real about trump.

I'm not here to dance to the tune you call.

You mean 53? Not that post, go back to your first post to me.

Right. I meant post #53.

You said everybody lies so we should all condemn all liars. Go ahead and condemn trump.

LOL. Yeah, right.
I will chose what I post on which topics, and again, I'm not here to dance to your tune. Demand all you want, it is immaterial.

 

[eohrnberger]

So is shit on my ass after pooping

I still wipe though

LOL. Reminds me of

Quote Origin: Politicians Are Like Diapers. They Should Be Changed Regularly – Quote Investigator®

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Is this you attempt to make the case that 119 million Americans would have died if not for that fentanyl being seized?

No, because I really don't take much of what politicians go around claiming all that seriously, it's all just 'noise' in the firmament.
Experience being the ultimate teachers, and all.

Or are you just stating that you understand why they told a lie with that number?

"Today is Fentanyl Awareness Day. In President Trump’s first 100 days we’ve seized over 22 million fentanyl laced pills, saving over 119 Million lives," Bondi said​

Bondi seems to be assuming that 119 million people will get together and split each pill six ways

Even if we accept the nonsensical idea that each bit of fentanyl seized = lives saved,
SHE'S STILL LYING

Meh. See indication of my attitude above.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

LOL. Reminds me of

Quote Origin: Politicians Are Like Diapers. They Should Be Changed Regularly – Quote Investigator®

quoteinvestigator.com

No, because I really don't take much of what politicians go around claiming all that seriously, it's all just 'noise' in the firmament.
Experience being the ultimate teachers, and all.


Meh. See indication of my attitude above.

IOW,
you're comfy with it

 

[eohrnberger]

IOW,
you're comfy with it

Running around as if you hair was on fire, and being all fauxraged over it is a personal choice, one where you've given greater control over yourself to another.
Now why do that?

 

[soap box]

<sigh> If you don't want to consider the forest, OK fine.

This is in fact common parlance for this subject. Why you are trying to hoax it into lying is beyond me.


Yeah, this most definitely subjective for the reasons I've sighted previously.


More being subjective.


I'm not here to dance to the tune you call.


Right. I meant post #53.


LOL. Yeah, right.
I will chose what I post on which topics, and again, I'm not here to dance to your tune. Demand all you want, it is immaterial.

Can't get honest about Trump. That means your claim of hypocrisy is dead.

 

[eohrnberger]

Can't get honest about Trump.

You are confusing being honest about Trump with you wanting me to have the same opinion as you of Trump.
Sorry, but no, I'm not part of your Borg hive mind, and I'll never be.

That means your claim of hypocrisy is dead.

Hardly.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Running around as if you hair was on fire, and being all fauxraged over it is a personal choice, one where you've given greater control over yourself to another.
Now why do that?

You would have to ask someone running around with burning hair.
I just post snarky comments online.

imho,​

posting snarky comments online seems at least marginally less dramatic than lighting my hair on fire.​

ymmv depending on how you prepare to post on line​

 

[eohrnberger]

You would have to ask someone running around with burning hair.
I just post snarky comments online.

imho,​

posting snarky comments online seems at least marginally less dramatic than lighting my hair on fire.​

ymmv depending on how you prepare to post on line​

 

[Jetboogieman]

I'm not part of your Borg hive mind, and I'll never be.

lol.

Yeah sure.

 

[soap box]

You are confusing being honest about Trump with you wanting me to have the same opinion as you of Trump.

I didn't ask for your opinion of trump. He's either lying or he's delusional about China paying the tariffs.
Now that you mention it, I'm not expecting to persuade you.

Sorry, but no, I'm not part of your Borg hive mind, and I'll never be.


Hardly.

And I keep wondering why are you criticizing me about something you've always done too?

 

[eohrnberger]

I didn't ask for your opinion of trump. He's either lying or he's delusional about China paying the tariffs.

Now demonstrating binary thinking.
It could be many more things than just those two.

Now that you mention it, I'm not expecting to persuade you.

And I keep wondering why are you criticizing me about something you've always done too?

This, in your mind and imagination, so who am I to know what's in your head?

 

[soap box]

Now demonstrating binary thinking.
It could be many more things than just those two.

Interesting, anything you'll share as possible "more things than just those two"? We shut down their factories and they shut down ours and it was all avoidable. But China pays the tariffs?

This, in your mind and imagination, so who am I to know what's in your head?

If I'm a hypocrite, you're as much so by criticizing me about something you've always done.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

The only difference I see is that the press secretary is lying. That's a problem.

More than about 90,000 people die from fentanyl in a year in the US. If she had said almost 100,000 deaths would be prevented, there wouldn't be much of an issue concerning her honesty.

Why would she exaggerate to a point of an absurd lie?

She's a lying MAGA moron. It's what they do.

"Lyin" Leavitt needs to be removed from that office and needs to be deported back to her home state in disgrace.

 

[eohrnberger]

Interesting, anything you'll share as possible "more things than just those two"? We shut down their factories and they shut down ours and it was all avoidable. But China pays the tariffs?

<sigh> OK.

1. So the US puts tariffs on Chinese goods.
2. Their prices go up.
3. People quite naturally buy fewer of them.
4. China is paying a price in loss of sales, in jobs, in their economy, etc.

Now we are seeing, as in this thread, China giving a little bit and likely wanting to make a deal.
What deal is struck is yet to be seen.

Does this make sense to you?

If I'm a hypocrite, you're as much so by criticizing me about something you've always done.

 

[quip]

Do you believe Donald Trump's......​

 

[Simon W. Moon]

<sigh> OK.

1. So the US puts tariffs on Chinese goods.
2. Their prices go up.
3. People quite naturally buy fewer of them.
4. China is paying a price in loss of sales, in jobs, in their economy, etc.

Now we are seeing, as in this thread, China giving a little bit and likely wanting to make a deal.
What deal is struck is yet to be seen.
Does this make sense to you?

When Trump said China was going to pay tariffs and he could use that tariff money to do away with income taxes,

Trump was talking about using the loss of potential sales to pay America's bills?

That makes Trump sound even stupider than he is

 

[Jason Warfield]

it was a gaffe

we laugh at gaffe's and think they're acceptable and funny and move on - we did it for the last 4 years

Who are you trying to kid?

 

[Jason Warfield]

The problem here is that they can't handle success. They should've just reported the seizure numbers and left it at that. But....

They have to spin it to make Trump look like a savior. So they do stupid shit like this.

 

[soap box]

<sigh> OK.

1. So the US puts tariffs on Chinese goods.
2. Their prices go up.
3. People quite naturally buy fewer of them.
4. China is paying a price in loss of sales, in jobs, in their economy, etc.

Now we are seeing, as in this thread, China giving a little bit and likely wanting to make a deal.
What deal is struck is yet to be seen.

That's what I said. We see trump make a mess now, and he said China is gonna pay the tariffs.

Does this make sense to you?

I was asking a few very simple questions and you answered with diversions.

Just pointing out your silence during the time KJP was telling her whoppers.
Funny how that your calling out 'lies' (see my post #47) follows along party lines.

There's nothing subjective in how or what Bondi lied about.

Post in thread: https://debatepolitics.com/threads/...-258-million-americans.568218/post-1081456107

Good bye.