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Do you actually care about the Epstein files?

Do you actually care about the Epstein files?

  • I've never cared about the Epstein files

    Votes: 26 31.3%

  • I cared about the Epstein files but Trump told me to move on

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't care about the Epstein files but enjoy trolling MAGA about them

    Votes: 6 7.2%

  • Yes, the Epstein files will show that Dems are sex abusers

    Votes: 3 3.6%

  • Yes, the Epstein files will show that Trump is a sex abuser

    Votes: 7 8.4%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 41 49.4%
  • Total voters
    83
Cameron

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Count me as one of those who has never cared about the Epstein files and still doesn't. If there was anything in there that could have been used for political purposes it would have come out a long, long time ago. At this point it is all stupid conspiracy/partisan nonsense.
 
Cameron said:
If there was anything in there that could have been used for political purposes it would have come out a long, long time ago
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That is solid reasoning. If there were prominent Republicans on the list, it's hard to believe that would have been kept quiet while the DOJ was being run by a Democratic administration. The reverse is also true under Trump.

The only possible hitch is that there are prominent members of both parties on that list and they've cut a deal, but the longer we go without leaking the list the less likely that it is. Someone in possession of a copy of that list with no strong allegiance to either party would be sitting on a gold mine. Hard to believe someone wouldn't cash in on that opportunity.
 
NatMorton said:
If there were prominent Republicans on the list, it's hard to believe that would have been kept quiet while the DOJ was being run by a Democratic administration.
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Of all the arguments against, this one is pretty stupid. Now do whether Republicans believe Hillary Clinton is a criminal despite two Trump regimes producing no charges.
 
Cameron said:
Count me as one of those who has never cared about the Epstein files and still doesn't. If there was anything in there that could have been used for political purposes it would have come out a long, long time ago. At this point it is all stupid conspiracy/partisan nonsense.
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It’s not now. Bondi said she had files. Then no list. Trump is stating it’s a fake list created by Obama. This is the head of our government. This is not a small thing.
 
NatMorton said:
If there were prominent Republicans on the list, it's hard to believe that would have been kept quiet while the DOJ was being run by a Democratic administration.
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You show your bias by painting Democrats with the Trump brush.

It is easy to believe the DOJ under Democratic administrations, and Republican administrations other than Trump’s for that matter, would not violate their oaths.
 
NatMorton said:
That is solid reasoning. If there were prominent Republicans on the list, it's hard to believe that would have been kept quiet while the DOJ was being run by a Democratic administration. The reverse is also true under Trump.

The only possible hitch is that there are prominent members of both parties on that list and they've cut a deal, but the longer we go without leaking the list the less likely that it is. Someone in possession of a copy of that list with no strong allegiance to either party would be sitting on a gold mine. Hard to believe someone wouldn't cash in on that opportunity.
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Well, that's been the theory since jump. That there is compromising info on powerful figures in both parties. The notion that Trump isn't deeply complicit in Epstein's operations defies all reason, when some aspects were working out of Mar-a-Lago.
 
bomberfox said:
The victims deserve justice no matter what these findings reveal. We need to quit the theatrics and settle this once and for all.
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This.

But we all know Jeffrey Epstein trafficked women and minor females to rich men and since they are, or have been, in very powerful positions nothing is going to happen and people will move one.
 
NatMorton said:
That is solid reasoning. If there were prominent Republicans on the list, it's hard to believe that would have been kept quiet while the DOJ was being run by a Democratic administration. The reverse is also true under Trump.

The only possible hitch is that there are prominent members of both parties on that list and they've cut a deal, but the longer we go without leaking the list the less likely that it is. Someone in possession of a copy of that list with no strong allegiance to either party would be sitting on a gold mine. Hard to believe someone wouldn't cash in on that opportunity.
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Cash in then "commit suicide" no doubt.

They'd be taking one for the greater cause though because even though they gave their life, we'd at least have some answers.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
You show your bias by painting Democrats with the Trump brush.

It is easy to believe the DOJ under Democratic administrations, and Republican administrations other than Trump’s for that matter, would not violate their oaths.
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It would not show anything of the sort had you included the full context of my post and not cropped out the part demonstrating objectivity.
 
Im really interested in learning why they claimed to have a list and then sais there isnt one.

im really interested in learning more about the allegedly doctored video.
 
NatMorton said:
It would not show anything of the sort had you included the full context of my post and not cropped out the part demonstrating objectivity.
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That wasn't context; that was hand waving.

Trump is singular. Pretending a Democratic administration would act in the same manner as his is deliberate obfuscation.

Or it is not a pretense. It is stupidity.
 
bomberfox said:
The victims deserve justice no matter what these findings reveal. We need to quit the theatrics and settle this once and for all.
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You hit the nail on the head. It is central to this whole story. That appears to have gotten lost in this thread. They should see justice and the enablers exposed.
 
Cameron said:
Count me as one of those who has never cared about the Epstein files and still doesn't. If there was anything in there that could have been used for political purposes it would have come out a long, long time ago. At this point it is all stupid conspiracy/partisan nonsense.
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Agree.
 
The Epstein story has the comic element of MAGA turning one of their conspiracy theories on their own.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
Trump is singular. Pretending a Democratic administration would act in the same manner as his is deliberate obfuscation.
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How charmingly naive, considering we're talking about an administration that lied to the country about their President's growing cognitive impairments for at least a year, or more.
 
It's not necessarily "I don't care at all". It is more like on my list of priorities of things I care about, it is likely way far down that list, with pages upon pages of things much more important.

That said, I actually care more about the blatant lies said about the list, the conspiracy theories put out because those cause more issues than the list itself does.
 
I am convinced the files contain nothing that would serve the publics interest to know. Of course they contain all types of nasty information, victim statements and names and no doubt the names of many people who were in Epsteins circle but were not guilty of crimes or there wasn't enough information to bring charges. In any case information that is uncovered during a DOJ investigation does not belong in the public domain , unless it's in a court , just to satisfy public curiosity.

The Maga universe made up a ridiculous conspiracy theory and now they are stuck with no there , there and it looks good on them. Conspiracy theories are insidious and dangerous things , I hope this information is withheld and I hope it burns them big time.
 
NatMorton said:
That is solid reasoning. If there were prominent Republicans on the list, it's hard to believe that would have been kept quiet while the DOJ was being run by a Democratic administration. The reverse is also true under Trump.

The only possible hitch is that there are prominent members of both parties on that list and they've cut a deal, but the longer we go without leaking the list the less likely that it is. Someone in possession of a copy of that list with no strong allegiance to either party would be sitting on a gold mine. Hard to believe someone wouldn't cash in on that opportunity.
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I care about promises made/promises kept, and the integrity of the investigation. There shouldn't be any reason for Bongino to consider leaving over this issue. Something smells.
 
From the actions of both the democrats and republicans in regards to this case it is clear that a bunch of wealthy and powerful people are implicated and they are putting effective pressure on both parties.

Getting what they paid for.

I don’t really care if people went to the island and didn’t lay hands on a minor.

Every ****ing one of them knew what was going on. The first time they went. And many went more than once.

I think it would be great for everybody to see the names of the folks both parties cater to over the rest of us.
 
roguenuke said:
It's not necessarily "I don't care at all". It is more like on my list of priorities of things I care about, it is likely way far down that list, with pages upon pages of things much more important.

That said, I actually care more about the blatant lies said about the list, the conspiracy theories put out because those cause more issues than the list itself does.
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Few who bring up the so-called Epstein Files are acting in good faith.

It is a cudgel. It is kabuki. It is MIHOP. It is Obama's birth certificate. It is Benghazi. It is Hunter Biden's Laptop.
 
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