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That's irrelevant, they have built islands in the Sea of China, and are expanding their port agreements in the region to support their expanding blue water navy. Try learning to ask the right questions, instead of you Democratic Underground talking points sent to you each morning.Give me the current total
Do you even know?
The United States maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, but China so far has only one base in Djibouti.
So you dont know? You dont know they have far less that 1% of what we have in overseas bases.That's irrelevant, they have built islands in the Sea of China, and are expanding their port agreements in the region to support their expanding blue water navy. Try learning to ask the right questions, instead of you Democratic Underground talking points sent to you each morning.
to defeat the russians?
Seems all they have is their nuclear weapons. The entire western world wants no part of a nuclear exchange with Russia.
so is all this conventional military really kind of unnecessary?
Who else is willing to step up? No one that I can see, and I'll guarantee that China is not waiting around for anyone else either. I understand we could more efficiently appropriate the budget, but withdrawing back to our shoreline, is naïve to say the least, and many would like. And not a single elected official would reduce our budget one penny , and return money to the public.I mean....that IS their mission. It's the US military and it's job is to protect the US. It was never supposed to be Team Ameica World Police. It's been vastly misappropriated and often times incoherent and self-destructive.
And so now you want to withdraw us from everywhere. Insanity!So you dont know? You dont know they have far less that 1% of what we have in overseas bases.
Guess how many carrier groups they have?
Odd that you wouk6d say that because I didn'tAnd so now you want to withdraw us from everywhere. Insanity!
I don't particularly care if other people step up or not. If other countries want to kill each other then they can go for it.Who else is willing to step up? No one that I can see, and I'll guarantee that China is not waiting around for anyone else either. I understand we could more efficiently appropriate the budget, but withdrawing back to our shoreline, is naïve to say the least, and many would like. And not a single elected official would reduce our budget one penny , and return money to the public.
Dont care. If china is a problem for the world then they can step up or notWho else is willing to step up? No one that I can see, and I'll guarantee that China is not waiting around for anyone else either. I understand we could more efficiently appropriate the budget, but withdrawing back to our shoreline, is naïve to say the least, and many would like. And not a single elected official would reduce our budget one penny , and return money to the public.
That's irrelevant, they have built islands in the Sea of China, and are expanding their port agreements in the region to support their expanding blue water navy. Try learning to ask the right questions, instead of you Democratic Underground talking points sent to you each morning.
I mean....that IS their mission. It's the US military and it's job is to protect the US. It was never supposed to be Team Ameica World Police. It's been vastly misappropriated and often times incoherent and self-destructive.
That's not a healthy POV to have, that opens the door to all kinds of abuse.Nope, their mission is whatever congress decides to fund, which includes having bases and troops stationed all over the planet. Your assertion of what it is supposed to be means absolutely nothing.
You're making my case for me here?Education is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution as being a federal government power, yet now has a cabinet level department with an annual budget of over $70B.
That's not a healthy POV to have, that opens the door to all kinds of abuse.
You're making my case for me here?
The problem with this topic is that it's a complicated one, made of many different topics, weapon systems, views of policies, but it's heard to remember one public discussion of it ever that dealt with much of any of that instead just treating it all as one thing, the two sides of the argument being you either want to make America defenseless or you want to spend unlimited amounts.to defeat the russians?
Seems all they have is their nuclear weapons. The entire western world wants no part of a nuclear exchange with Russia.
so is all this conventional military really kind of unnecessary?
I understand we could more efficiently appropriate the budget
And not a single elected official would reduce our budget one penny , and return money to the public.
But you have no idea how to do it.
Wrong. Progressives would happily do that.
I mean....that IS their mission. It's the US military and it's job is to protect the US. It was never supposed to be Team Ameica World Police. It's been vastly misappropriated and often times incoherent and self-destructive.
Well when Russia invaded Ukraine as you can see our Allies have stepped up to the plate. We don't need to be the world's policeman if the free world will continue to step to the plate.
Seems to me our military has been used to protect/expand corporate interest more than protecting America. I think in the past it was called imperialism.
Reality is right thinking people have an overactive fear response. That fear response makes them susceptible to believing we need a military larger than all the rest of the world's combined.
We can't go to war directly with China or Russia and they can't with us. We have seen that with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. No country in the world wants to provoke a world ending nuclear exchange. So what is the point?
The Navy is on the verge of becoming obsolete.
Our military is there to protect assets for our greedy corporations. That's it. it's not protection, its about the ability to influence change or protect places where there is a huge uS corporation financial interests, as well as to fun the defense industryto defeat the russians?
Seems all they have is their nuclear weapons. The entire western world wants no part of a nuclear exchange with Russia.
so is all this conventional military really kind of unnecessary?
The Navy is on the verge of becoming obsolete.
Here's an easy solution to reduce a lot of costs that not only won't do much negative to our economy but will be a net gain. Close down most foreign bases and stop interventionism.
Those foreign bases take money out of our pockets and dumps them into other government's pockets. Bring those personnel, facilities, and equipment back to the US and expand our bases here to fit them. Then all that money will be spent here instead.
Nope, ships and submarines are quite useful.
By we you should mean the world not just the USWe live in a global economy, we need to be present globally. Your MAGA BS is the definition for failing.
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