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Do we need the supernatural to get to heaven?

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simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
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Speak for yourself.
 
Did he just seriously ask "Do we need the supernatural to get to heaven?"




narrowroad said:
simple answer
of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...
baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE
etc...
We are hideous creatures without God
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:ROFLMAO:

Heaven is supernatural. Of course you would need the supernatural to be real in order to get into a supernatural place.

Unfortunately it's just a bunch of bullshit.
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
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Is that true? I mean, I see a lot of hideous creatures that claim they are with God. They even whine about nonexistent voter fraud.
 
Mr Person said:
Heaven is supernatural. Of course you would need the supernatural to be real in order to get into a supernatural place.

Unfortunately it's just a bunch of bullshit.
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depends what "heaven" you mean....


 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
Click to expand...
Um...the concept of "heaven" itself is supernatural so...yeah.
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
Click to expand...

What “heaven”?
 
Mr Person said:
Did he just seriously ask "Do we need the supernatural to get to heaven?"







:ROFLMAO:

Heaven is supernatural. Of course you would need the supernatural to be real in order to get into a supernatural place.

Unfortunately it's just a bunch of bullshit.
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However, according to Christianity, the idea is that human kind is so messed up that it cannot figure out how it is messed up, let alone fix itself and needs outside help.
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
Click to expand...

Well, that was quite an irrational conclusion: 'bad stuff happens so we should believe in nonsense'. However, history shows us that when people believe in nonsense, bad stuff still happens ~ quite often perpetrated by those who told people to believe in nonsense.
 
Mr Person said:
Did he just seriously ask "Do we need the supernatural to get to heaven?"







:ROFLMAO:

Heaven is supernatural. Of course you would need the supernatural to be real in order to get into a supernatural place.

Unfortunately it's just a bunch of bullshit.
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we'll find out in the end

why take chances? Living for Jesus is not easy but I've lived for him and NOT lived 4 him and living for Him is better... always good to have a clear conscience..
 
NWO_Spook said:
Well, that was quite an irrational conclusion: 'bad stuff happens so we should believe in nonsense'. However, history shows us that when people believe in nonsense, bad stuff still happens ~ quite often perpetrated by those who told people to believe in nonsense.
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I only listen to people who have spent time in Jesus's TANGIBLE Presence... which are the devout Catholics.

Whenever a Protestant has doubts about the faith, he is prone to give up on the faith.. When a Catholic doubts (a devout one), he or she can recall the Real Presence of Christ... and the doubts disappear. (Jn 6:27-72, etc)
 
tacomancer said:


However, according to Christianity, the idea is that human kind is so messed up that it cannot figure out how it is messed up, let alone fix itself and needs outside help.
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something that is proven in spades when one follows closely the EVIL perpetrated by the elites in the Sewer aka DC
 
narrowroad said:
we'll find out in the end

why take chances? Living for Jesus is not easy but I've lived for him and NOT lived 4 him and living for Him is better... always good to have a clear conscience..
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No, we won't find out. We'll be dead.
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
Click to expand...
narrowroad said:
something that is proven in spades when one follows closely the EVIL perpetrated by the elites in the Sewer aka DC
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If there were any such thing as an omnipotent, omnibenevolent God, why would this God allow baby killing?

You've been deceived by your own elites, religious leaders who have long sought to use fear to manipulate you into following them, using threats of eternal torture juxtaposed by promises of utopia. And then they try to guilt you into surrendering 10% of your income to them. Seems like a pretty transparent scam.
 
narrowroad said:
I only listen to people who have spent time in Jesus's TANGIBLE Presence... which are the devout Catholics.

Whenever a Protestant has doubts about the faith, he is prone to give up on the faith.. When a Catholic doubts (a devout one), he or she can recall the Real Presence of Christ... and the doubts disappear. (Jn 6:27-72, etc)
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What about Matthew 7:1, which I presume, you, being a self- professed, devout Catholic, consider to be factual, truthful scripture; yet here you are passing judgement upon others ( Protestant Christians ), which is clearly a biblical 'no-no.' How do explain/rectify this with what you stated about Protestants? Are you not 'passing judgement' upon an entire sect of religious people, and is this acceptable in the eyes of your God? Matthew 7:1 seems to be very clear the judgement you are passing on Protestants goes against Christ's teachings.
 
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narrowroad said:
I only listen to people who have spent time in Jesus's TANGIBLE Presence... which are the devout Catholics.

Whenever a Protestant has doubts about the faith, he is prone to give up on the faith.. When a Catholic doubts (a devout one), he or she can recall the Real Presence of Christ... and the doubts disappear. (Jn 6:27-72, etc)
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LOL Whatever, however, that doesn't alter my assessment of your post.
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
Click to expand...

Provide proof for this supposed “heaven”.
 
narrowroad said:
I only listen to people who have spent time in Jesus's TANGIBLE Presence... which are the devout Catholics.

Whenever a Protestant has doubts about the faith, he is prone to give up on the faith.. When a Catholic doubts (a devout one), he or she can recall the Real Presence of Christ... and the doubts disappear. (Jn 6:27-72, etc)
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If his presence is tangible, then it should be able to be objectively detectable. Is it?
 
narrowroad said:
we'll find out in the end

why take chances? Living for Jesus is not easy but I've lived for him and NOT lived 4 him and living for Him is better... always good to have a clear conscience..
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Why take chances on what? Seems like a pretty huge gamble living the only life you have for a death cult, on the infinitesimal chance you might get an imaginary reward for it in the afterlife, that reward being living for eternity under the heel of the same one who put you in that conundrum to begin with.
 
If one is a believer, then God is natural a part o nature, not 'supernatural', as is the case with pagan materialism and its children like Marxism, Nazism, and financial capitalism and their silly insane 'rational constructivism'.
 
narrowroad said:
simple answer

of course... Look around and see all the horrendous EVIL...

baby killing
voter fraud to the point america is GONE

etc...

We are hideous creatures without God
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techincally yes, god is supernatural, therefore we need the supernatural to get to heaven
 
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