Do We All Understand That Democrats Invited The Caravan?

[ElChupacabra]

that's wrong and liberal of course. Industries don't benefit, consumers do from the lower prices. Without immigrants prices would be higher but industry profits would be the same. 1+1=2

Wait, so let me get this straight: you're saying that industries don't see benefit to their profits by using cheap labor? So if I make computers and labor in Greenland cost me half of what it does here, I would make the same amount of money if I made them here?

 

[James972]

There are much better ways of curbing migration through enforcement of current laws which would make it harder for businesses to profit from illegal migrant labor.

obviously the current laws don't work, hence The Wall. See how easy that was??

 

[WillyPete]

who said it should be done if there is not enough support to get it done??? You have yourself confused between what some people want done and what the majority wants done.

You're the one griping about Democrats stopping Republican priorities, when it appears that these policies are not an actual priority to the American people.

So wouldn't that make not implementing these policies the correct course for the nation, at least in terms of their representation acting on the electorate's wishes?

You seemed to be saying that the majority don't want the wall, but we should build it anyway.

 

[James972]

Wait, so let me get this straight: you're saying that industries don't see benefit to their profits by using cheap labor? So if I make computers and labor in Greenland cost me half of what it does here, I would make the same amount of money if I made them here?

I have taught you this 10 times already. Competitors can move to Greenland too, price competition then reduces profits to where they always were. The only beneficiary is us, the customers. Shall we go for 11?

 

[James972]

You're the one griping about Democrats stopping Republican priorities, when it appears that these policies are not an actual priority to the American people.
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the minority or opposition always gripes or opposes or resists. It is their job. Is that a surprise to you???

 

[James972]

So wouldn't that make not implementing these policies the correct course for the nation, at least in terms of their representation acting on the electorate's wishes?
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it would make it the democratic course of action, but not necessarily the correct course of action any more than HItler was the correct course of action because he was democratically elected. Get it now?

 

[James972]

You seemed to be saying that the majority don't want the wall, but we should build it anyway.

Wrong of course, no one is saying it should be built illegally

 

[ElChupacabra]

but immediately thereafter, not coincidentally, the definition was expanded to include slaves and they were freed too. 1+1=2

One can argue that there were nuanced views of slavery among the founding fathers (particularly Jefferson), but it was a glaring contradiction to make that statement then still have slavery.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I have taught you this 10 times already. Competitors can move to Greenland too, price competition then reduces profits to where they always were. The only beneficiary is us, the customers. Shall we go for 11?

:lamo

 

[James972]

it was a glaring contradiction to make that statement then still have slavery.

so????Does someone dispute that??????????????????????

 

[WillyPete]

the minority or opposition always gripes or opposes or resists. It is their job. Is that a surprise to you???

Yes, well, the Republicans are the majority party today, in terms of controlling the federal government, so if they feel strongly about the policy, there's nothing stopping them from doing it, yeah?

Are you saying the Republicans don't believe in their own policy priorities?

 

[ElChupacabra]

obviously the current laws don't work, hence The Wall. See how easy that was??

Yes, it's easy to give simplistic answers to complicated problems but that doesn't make them right. So what's going to happen when the wall is built and people are still being smuggled through? Oh and by the way, what is the solution for the 40% of illegal migrants who come by plane? The wall is for folks who like monuments to things, but I don't want to pay for something this stupid.

 

[ElChupacabra]

so????Does someone dispute that??????????????????????

Your statement that slavery was eliminated when this country was founded does

!+!=!!

 

[James972]

Your statement that slavery was eliminated when this country was founded does

!+!=!!

it does, how????

 

[James972]

. So what's going to happen when the wall is built and people are still being smuggled through?

In theory the number will be about 1% or less than now. 1+1=2

 

[James972]

The wall is for folks who like monuments to things, but I don't want to pay for something this stupid.

why not tell us why its stupid???

 

[ElChupacabra]

it does, how????

Think about it.

 

[ElChupacabra]

In theory the number will be about 1% or less than now. 1+1=2

So $20 billion (not including maintenance) for a 1% reduction and tax payers will be footing the bill for many years to come sounds like a good idea? That's of course if there is that amount of reduction; remember that a large amount come on planes and overstay their visas.

 

[ElChupacabra]

why not tell us why its stupid???

I already did.

 

[Dittohead not!]

sure but does that mean they were not instrumental in ending slavery? Too complicated for a liberal??

If you're a liberal, then it must be too complicated for a liberal.

They were slave owners. When they said, "All men are created equal," they meant men, not women, and white men, not slaves and not Indians. It took a long time and a civil war to end slavery in the United States.

 

[Dittohead not!]

it is the underlying idea but it does not mean they in fact always know best. Do you recall they elected Hitler??

If the voters elected Hitler, then it follows that it's best to ignore the will of the voters and install an autocrat who knows what is best.

Right?

 

[Dittohead not!]

but immediately thereafter, not coincidentally, the definition was expanded to include slaves and they were freed too. 1+1=2

You just proved Elchupacabra right. You did sleep through history class.

Independence was declared in 1776. Slavery wasn't ended until 1864, hardly "immediately thereafter."

Moreover, it wasn't until 1965 that blacks were legally equal to whites via the civil rights law.

and they still don't have equal opportunity, even in today's world.

 

[James972]

Independence was declared in 1776. Slavery wasn't ended until 1864, hardly "immediately thereafter."
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a mere second given that slavery was 1 million years old!!

 

[Dittohead not!]

a mere second given that slavery was 1 million years old!!

and it's still going on, just not in the US, not legally anyway.

 

[James972]

If the voters elected Hitler, then it follows that it's best to ignore the will of the voters and install an autocrat who knows what is best.

Right?

no, an voter and an autocrat will be equally stupid. Do you understand why our Founders severely protected against autocrats and voters?? Shall I explain it to you?