Do the republicans have the right to try to keep the truth about january the sixth from the public?

[RaleBulgarian]

I guess you never do turn it off.

Projection.

You misrepresent Trump's comments as a demand for action by the Vice president.

I don’t know if Trump literally told Pence to violate the Constitution, but he damn sure did his best to coerce Pence into doing so.

Trump comments to his brain dead cult members prior to sending them to the Capitol to “fight like hell”.

“If Mike Pence does the right thing we win the election,”

“Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. And if he doesn’t, its a sad day for our country,”

And following the attack; “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify,” “The USA demands the truth!”

Indeed, it is unclear if he was even aware protesters (correction; violent rioters, insurrectionists, and seditionists) were in the Capital until it was already over.

It is very clearly from numerous reports and Trump’s own lips.


Damn man, do you ever tell the truth?

 

[j brown's body]

I guess you never do turn it off.


You misrepresent Trump's comments as a demand for action by the Vice president.

For Trump to stop the insurrection, there would have to have been one. Since there was none, he could hardly stop it. Obviously, you buy into the conspiracy theory but taht does not make it true.

Indeed, it is unclear if he was even aware protesters were in the Capital until it was already over.

What is the correct interpretation of Trump's comment's for action by the Vice president?

Trump never lifted a finger to stop his supporters from violently attacking the Capitol while the peaceful transfer of power was takjng place.

Trump was aware that the protesters were Capitol because McCarthy told him, as did Tuberville, just before he tweeted the news about Pence.

 

[j brown's body]

I guess you never do turn it off.


You misrepresent Trump's comments as a demand for action by the Vice president.

For Trump to stop the insurrection, there would have to have been one. Since there was none, he could hardly stop it. Obviously, you buy into the conspiracy theory but taht does not make it true.

Indeed, it is unclear if he was even aware protesters were in the Capital until it was already over.

What is the correct interpretation of Trump's comment's for action by the Vice president.

Trump never lifted a finger to stop his supporters from violently attacking the Capitol while the peaceful transfer of power was takjng place.

Trump was aware that the protesters were Capitol because McCarthy told him, as did Tubervill

And there have been multiple House investigations as well as a Senate one.

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7 House Committees each had their own​

House launches wide-ranging review of federal handling of ...​

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/house-review-jan6-insurrection-478108​

Mar 25, 2021Seven House committees launched a sweeping investigation Thursday into the federal government's handling of the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol — fueled by thousands of Donald Trump supporters who ...​

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Senate

READ FULL: Senate investigation details security ...​

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...ecurity-breakdowns-surrounding-capitol-attack​

A bipartisan report released by the Senate on Tuesday details failures across the U.S. government, military, and law enforcement to properly plan for and respond to the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the ...​

https://www.rules.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Jan%206%20HSGAC%20Rules%20Report.pdf

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And of course the DOJ Cases:

Capitol Breach Cases

www.justice.gov

Remember the Christine Blasey Ford fiasco during the Kavanaugh appointment hearings? Yeah, same crew here.

J6 Committee Hearing Has The Same Lawfare Producers, Directors and Script Writers as Christine Blasey Ford "Beach Friend" Hearing - The Last Refuge

What does Laufman showing up at another political pantomime hearing tell us? It tells us the same Lawfare crew is producing, directing and writing the script for democrats again.

theconservativetreehouse.com

Casts a deep dark shadow of illegitimacy on this commission from the git go.

The question isn't 'Do the republicans have the right to try to keep the truth about january the sixth from the public?'
The question is 'Do Democrats have the right to commit perjury on the electorate?'

I was wondering when you'd circle back to this rationalization.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Everyone saw a riot. idk what else there is to "find out" about.

Riots like that attack don't drop out of clouds like rain. It was very well planned. I want to know who planned it for real? If it was just a rally, why did many show up in military gear with radios and other equipment?

Sorry, you don't get to sweep this one under the rug.

 

[j brown's body]

I heard that he presided over a TV watching party.

Plus, I hear he checks the internet from time to time.

Then there's thus:

New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call off the rioters

In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the US Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.

www.cnn.com

The defense of Trump has really sunk to seriously disturbing depths. Are Amerucans really that captivated by a corrupt autocratic? Never thought I'd ever see anything like this.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Fateful how? Other than one person who was killed by police, nothing much happened.


Calling a riot is a stretch.

I do believe attempting to stop a government function by any means is a very serious crime. It's the very definition of INSURRECTION.

Calling it a riot is letting the anti-American assholes off the hook. It was a riot, but with attempted sedition. One rioter killed by police while 140+ police were injured by insurrectionists. The reason they didn't succeed is because they were led by Trump, who hasn't succeeded at much.

Boss moron leads minion morons. You wind up with a dangerous cluster fu**.

 

[eohrnberger]

What is the correct interpretation of Trump's comment's for action by the Vice president.

Trump never lifted a finger to stop his supporters from violently attacking the Capitol while the peaceful transfer of power was takjng place.

Trump was aware that the protesters were Capitol because McCarthy told him, as did Tubervill


I was wondering when you'd circle back to this rationalization.

The fact that there were multiple House investigations already?
Why should that significant fact be disregarded?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

The fact that there were multiple House investigations already?

And what were the outcomes of the “multiple House investigations”? Can you cite, with link/s, any of them?

 

[eohrnberger]

And what were the outcomes of the “multiple House investigations”? Can you cite, with link/s, any of them?

Sure.
The listing of those, and others is here: https://libguides.union.edu/c.php?g=1126166 and can be used as an index to them, of sorts.

The first one on this page is:

5.19.2021 3pm

The Committee on House Administration “Oversight of the January 6th Attack: Reforming the Capitol Police” Video Recording

Next step is to Internet search for “Oversight of the January 6th Attack: Reforming the Capitol Police” (including quotes), and find their conclusions.

For this Committee they are published here: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HA/...RG-117-HA00-Wstate-BoltonM-20210415-SD003.pdf
and have recommendations on the last page.

Repeat for each Committee in turn.

I had to admit, it'd be nice if there was a single page that listed them all, but I've not had any luck in finding that. If you find one, let me know.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Sure.
The listing of those, and others is here: https://libguides.union.edu/c.php?g=1126166 and can be used as an index to them, of sorts.

The first one on this page is:

5.19.2021 3pm

The Committee on House Administration “Oversight of the January 6th Attack: Reforming the Capitol Police” Video Recording

Next step is to Internet search for “Oversight of the January 6th Attack: Reforming the Capitol Police” (including quotes), and find their conclusions.

For this Committee they are published here: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/HA/...RG-117-HA00-Wstate-BoltonM-20210415-SD003.pdf
and have recommendations on the last page.

Repeat for each Committee in turn.

I had to admit, it'd be nice if there was a single page that listed them all, but I've not had any luck in finding that. If you find one, let me know.

Thanks. I agree, a single site with links to each investigation would be helpful.

A review of libguides shows no ongoing investigations or results of completed investigations that include the actions of Trump or any other administration officials leading up to the January 6th attack of the Capitol, or actions on the 6th of January.

Do you have any references to investigations that include the actions of Trump and/or members of his administration with regard to the attack?

So far, it appears that Congressional Dems (along with Republican Reps Cheney and Kinzinger) are the only ones investigating that very critical aspect.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

I do believe attempting to stop a government function by any means is a very serious crime. It's the very definition of INSURRECTION.

Actually it's called "obstructing congressional proceedings" not insurrection. In which one rioter was already indicted on.

 

[DarkWizard12]

Riots like that attack don't drop out of clouds like rain. It was very well planned. I want to know who planned it for real? If it was just a rally, why did many show up in military gear with radios and other equipment?

Sorry, you don't get to sweep this one under the rug.

....really?

You're literally the first democrat to say that.

 

[eohrnberger]

Thanks. I agree, a single site with links to each investigation would be helpful.

A review of libguides shows no ongoing investigations or results of completed investigations that include the actions of Trump or any other administration officials leading up to the January 6th attack of the Capitol, or actions on the 6th of January.

True, libguides doesn't, but I did outline how to find them.

Do you have any references to investigations that include the actions of Trump and/or members of his administration with regard to the attack?

That would be a slog to chase down each committee's conclusions, but it could be done.

So far, it appears that Congressional Dems (along with Republican Reps Cheney and Kinzinger) are the only ones investigating that very critical aspect.

It would depend on what each committee's investigation entailed. They may have, or they may not have.
Without knowing one way or another (at least between you and I) it would seem that this is a premature and unfounded assertion, at present.

 

[bongsaway]

No, they aren't. There was a protest. It got rowdy and many illegal acts were committed. No one has ever denied that.


Correction, they will decline to testify to your version under oath. It would be perjury.


Something happened. A protest got out of hand. Protesters scuffled with police, resulting in many superficial injuries and one police shooting. It was bad. It was also just a protest gone wrong.


This is the big lie.


You are projecting again. Do you ever turn it off?

Uh huh, a protest to stop the steal. It's sad after all that we have seen that folks like you are still trying to sing a different tune.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Should they be the body who decides whether we find out more about that fateful day?

Everyone with Internet access and a pair of functioning eyeballs saw the same videos. on January 6. You have to be an idiot to think Republicans should be allowed to hide any information about it.

 

[bongsaway]

Everyone with Internet access and a pair of functioning eyeballs saw the same videos. on January 6. You have to be an idiot to think Republicans should be allowed to hide any information about it.

Doesn't say much for republicans since they keep trying to hide the truth. Every single thing about the trump administration will eventually come out even if it's twenty years from now. The depth of their dirty deeds I'm sure will astonish many folks. I think after time passes the trump administration will go down as our most corrupt to date.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

It would depend on what each committee's investigation entailed. They may have, or they may not have.
Without knowing one way or another (at least between you and I) it would seem that this is a premature and unfounded assertion, at present.

Oh, ok. Your post #32 appeared to imply that you were aware of an investigation that included Trump’s actions and those of others in his administration and members of Congress that were/are in his corner.

The fact that there were multiple House investigations already?
Why should that significant fact be disregarded?

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[Jay59]

Uh huh, a protest to stop the steal.

In a nutshell.

It's sad after all that we have seen that folks like you are still trying to sing a different tune.

What's sad about the exercise of free speeach?

 

[less right]

The fact that there were multiple House investigations already?
Why should that significant fact be disregarded?

Can you list some of those committees that investigated this already?

 

[Bullseye]

Should they be the body who decides whether we find out more about that fateful day?

What the hell are you talking about? You have a Dem President and Dem controlled Senate and House. How the hell can Republicans "control" anything?

 

[Lovebug]

No one is above the law. Let justice prevail, regardless of party.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Can you list some of those committees that investigated this already?

No, he cannot.

Not a one.

 

[Bullseye]

The riot at the US Capitol started spontaneously? Please. Trump implored his thugs to walk down to the Capitol and "fight like hell".

Actually that's a lie; he implored then to protest peacefully and patriotically.

It is imperative that we find out what part Trump and Congressional Republicans played in the January 6 coup attempt.

Naturally, the GOP will fight tooth and nail against sunlight exposing their actions/inactions.

Total nonsense.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Everyone saw a riot. idk what else there is to "find out" about.

I bet that's what terrorists say in the Middle East.

 

[less right]

No, he cannot.

Not a one.

I'm wondering if there were a few hearings where a few questions were asked about 1/6 and that's being called an investigation... all of which I must have missed. It seems to be a popular alternative fact though as I see it repeated here and on TV more and more.