Do conservatives deem any news outlet that doesn’t adhere to their ideology to be the "lying press"?

[Sabre]

Do conservatives liberals deem any news outlet that doesn’t adhere to their ideology to be the "lying press"? That seems familiar:
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It seems like it doesn't matter if you post something from corporate media like CNN FOX or actual leftist conservative media like Jacobin The Washington Times or the Intercept Breitbart , conservatives liberals will declare it fake news and then demand something from Gateway Pundit The New York Times be taken seriously. It seems like they want to be able to reject any media sources they do not like, but everyone has (to) immediately respect conservative liberal media sources, they want debates to be stacked in their favor before they begin.

Why should anyone who is not a conservative liberal take conservative liberal complaints about "the liberal conservative media" seriously when they use the liberal conservative media theory to reject any information that conflicts with their ideology?

Interesting how your views on conservatives matches those of most conservatives views of liberals. All you have to do is interchange certain words, as above, and you can have the same post as it may be made by a conservative. As true to the conservative side as the original is to the liberal side.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Interesting how your views on conservatives matches those of most conservatives views of liberals. All you have to do is interchange certain words, as above, and you can have the same post as it may be made by a conservative. As true to the conservative side as the original is to the liberal side.

Not quite. Deeming the press "Lugenpresse" comes straight from the far right playbook of Goebbels.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Your first mistake is the "y'all." There is no "y'all"; I am myself alone. I very often come to the same conclusions as other conservatives, and you might want to stretch a bit to imagine why that is.

You clearly are not versed in "southern." "Y'all" is singular; "All y'all" is plural.

 

[Sabre]

Not quite. Deeming the press "Lugenpresse" comes straight from the far right playbook of Goebbels.

First, the "lying press" was used by the original liberal poster, I left it in for continuity. So am I to assume that you believe that all "press" tell only the truth with no bias? If both sides say that about the other then one, or both of them, is incorrect.

 

[Robertinfremont]

It means "Fake News". It shows how Trump was simply borrowing Nazi tactics.

Are you kidding because Trump was attacked by the Media for being sworn in as president.

 

[Sietske22]

Are you kidding because Trump was attacked by the Media for being sworn in as president.

He was never attacked by the media for being "sworn in". You're making things up.

 

[Montgomery]

You're saying that Fox News viewers demanded the shuffling of programs and ending Lou Holt's show, etc.?

Lou Dobbs' show?

All of Fox News announcers will be under scrutiny as to their appeal to their audience and that is because a large audience sells advertising. A small or shrinking audience doesn't sell advertising and the host needs to be axed. Or at least his show does.
All other media outlets operate the same.

 

[nota bene]

Lou Dobbs' show?

All of Fox News announcers will be under scrutiny as to their appeal to their audience and that is because a large audience sells advertising. A small or shrinking audience doesn't sell advertising and the host needs to be axed. Or at least his show does.
All other media outlets operate the same.

Yes, Dobbs. I totally mangled that. I was thinking football and Holz.

 

[Montgomery]

Yes, Dobbs. I totally mangled that. I was thinking football and Holz.

An acknowledgment of your understanding is a lot more important than the name.

 

[randel]

Do conservatives deem any news outlet that doesn’t adhere to their ideology to be the "lying press"? That seems familiar:

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It seems like it doesn't matter if you post something from corporate media like CNN or actual leftist media like Jacobin or the Intercept, conservatives will declare it fake news and then demand something from Gateway Pundit be taken seriously. It seems like they want to be able to reject any media sources they do not like, but everyone has immediately respect conservative media sources, they want debates to be stacked in their favor before they begin.

Why should anyone who is not a conservative take conservative complaints about "the liberal media" seriously when they use the liberal media theory to reject any information that conflicts with their ideology?

sadly, with a good percentage yes.....when 70% of republicans are of the belief that no way in hell did trump lose the election, and scream 'fake news' about anything that is not lock step with their views...i know many people, people that i consider to be generally decent people, who are conservative, who lose their ever loving minds if you bring up what they view as a 'liberal' news outlet such as cnn...everything is 'fake', and fox, oan, and the like are the gold standard.

 

[What if...?]

Your first mistake is the "y'all." There is no "y'all"; I am myself alone. I very often come to the same conclusions as other conservatives, and you might want to stretch a bit to imagine why that is.

Do you believe the election was stolen?

 

[nota bene]

Do you believe the election was stolen?

Why are you asking me this? Irrelevant to what I posted, which is about perceiving others as part of a collective rather than as the individuals you are.

But here's a head-scratcher for you: Have you read a single post in which I have alluded to the election being stolen or stated as much?

 

[Montgomery]

Why are you asking me this? Irrelevant to what I posted, which is about perceiving others as part of a collective rather than as the individuals you are.

But here's a head-scratcher for you: Have you read a single post in which I have alluded to the election being stolen or stated as much?

Re you in with Liz Cheney?

 

[bomberfox]

The problem with the GOP’s media critique is it is merely a bully the referee tactic in which they just make shit up then complain when nobody reports it. Thats why i ****ing despise the phrase “you will only hear it here folks” its a dishonest marketing gimmick for overzealous hacks. TYT does this a lot as well.

faux news also lacks a structural and systemic critique which is why they are always floored when a systemic critique is brought to the floor. It breaks the illusion where they are above it all when they are complicit whole cloth in perpetuating and often creating the problem.

 

[bomberfox]

Well, it's because Soros is an atheist who is pushing Marxism worldwide. Soros has stated the enemy of the world is American capitalism. He also finances abortion worldwide. Everything he wants to do is evil. His massive outlays dwarf anything the Kochs ever did. And besides that, the Kochs did constructive great things with their money, like build children's hospitals.

Soros funded a lot of anti communist groups and was a student of the anti-communist Karl Popper.

 

[Rawley]

They listen to 2 or 3 media outlets that tell them what they want to hear.

Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levine, Hannity, etc.

And you prefer hearing your lies from Rachel and Don and Chris. Go figure

 

[Fishking]

Do conservatives deem any news outlet that doesn’t adhere to their ideology to be the "lying press"? That seems familiar:

No...the press routinely lying and being misleading is why they are deemed to be the lying press. For example, I think that Matt Taibbi is a pretty solid journalist but he is left of me by a bit.

 

[Rawley]

He was never attacked by the media for being "sworn in". You're making things up.

LOL The WaPo called for his impeachment 19 minutes after he was sworn in.

 

[What if...?]

Why are you asking me this? Irrelevant to what I posted, which is about perceiving others as part of a collective rather than as the individuals you are.

But here's a head-scratcher for you: Have you read a single post in which I have alluded to the election being stolen or stated as much?

Not that I have noticed. That's why I asked.

Those who persist in living in that fantasy reality are probably beyond help and will go to their grave believing the Big Lie that was told to them.

And will never hold those who told it to them accountable.

We have to deal with them now forever, stomping around all butthurt about something that never happened.

We just have to figure out how to carry on with them as bitchy dead weight.

Hopefully the GOP will grow a pair and jettison trumpism in favor of a more modern, inclusive conservatism. A GOP with fresh ideas that aren't just pretty words chosen to get folks to vote for them so they can do the work of their donors.

You're going to have to pardon my frustration. Because this shit is asinine.

 

[trixare4kids]

Not that I have noticed. That's why I asked.

Those who persist in living in that fantasy reality are probably beyond help and will go to their grave believing the Big Lie that was told to them.

And will never hold those who told it to them accountable.

We have to deal with them now forever, stomping around all butthurt about something that never happened.

We just have to figure out how to carry on with them as bitchy dead weight.

Hopefully the GOP will grow a pair and jettison trumpism in favor of a more modern, inclusive conservatism. A GOP with fresh ideas that aren't just pretty words chosen to get folks to vote for them so they can do the work of their donors.

You're going to have to pardon my frustration. Because this shit is asinine.

But you've also done the same to me. Implied, insinuated and maybe even said that I thought the election was stolen.

Stop it.

 

[SCrider]

Do you get the irony here? You people are the ones who cancel individuals who dare speak out about the stolen election and other topics you don't like, right?

Which election was stolen?

 

[What if...?]

But you've also done the same to me. Implied, insinuated and maybe even said that I thought the election was stolen.

Stop it.

I am taking note and won't make the same "mistake" again. Did you never think it was? Or were you convinced it wasn't at some time? If so, what convinced you?

This is a problem. The country can't move forward with two distinct realities.

One where the election was stolen, occupied solely by consumers of conservative media.

And the one where it was not. Where the rest of the damn world lives.

Get over it. You'll be seeing more of that challenge going forward.

 

[Mircea]

A broken clock is right twice a day, doesn’t change the fact that the conservative media generally cares more about ideology than journalism and will traffic in conspiracy theories like Seth Rich being murdered by the Clintons and baseless claims about the election being stolen from Trump.

Um, religious conservative fringe "news" sites are not the Media. And there is a difference between religious Conservatives and Conservatives.

Thanks to the Liberal Media, you probably think Neo-Cons are "right-wing."

Yeah, right. A Jew named Irving Kristol -- the godfather of Neo-Conservatism and now his son William Kristol runs the show -- starts a group called the Young People's Socialist League or YPSL and then later the YPSL merges with the Social Democrat Party to become the SPD-YPSL and then Kristol co-opts the leadership of the SDP and takes it over to become the Social Democrats and then 10 years after he and his minions tortured the US with the Grotesque Society they crafted for the LBJ Administration gives an interview to a New York Times reporter lamenting their failures and the NYT reporter coins the term "neo-conservative."

Neo-Cons get all weak in the knees over Max Weber.

Does that sound like something a Republican or a Conservative (not necessarily the same thing) would do? (as if you even know who Max Weber is).

And ideology? Are you kidding? How many times have we seen :Liberal Media scream and throw a tantrum that some office or agency's budget was cut by a Republican Congress or President (or both) and then we look at the budget and see that it actually increased 6%?

You see, with Liberal propaganda, if they believe the budget for an office, like the Department of Education, should be increased 8% and it is only increased 6% that is a "budget cut" under the Liberal ideological propaganda mindset.

I can't tell you how many Liberal news articles claim the victim of a crime was shot by a "semi-automatic handgun" only to find out later it was a .32 caliber revolver or a .38 caliber revolver.

A revolver is not a semi-automatic and no one would call it that except to distort, inflame and incense people to push an agenda.

 

[trixare4kids]

LOL The WaPo called for his impeachment 19 minutes after he was sworn in.

Some of our leftist friends seem to have selective memory issues.

 

[trixare4kids]

I am taking note and won't make the same "mistake" again. Did you never think it was? Or were you convinced it wasn't at some time? If so, what convinced you?

This is a problem. The country can't move forward with two distinct realities.

One where the election was stolen, occupied solely by consumers of conservative media.

And the one where it was not. Where the rest of the damn world lives.

Get over it. You'll be seeing more of that challenge going forward.

I don't need to get over anything because I am not the poster who accused others of not accepting election results or thinking it was stolen.
Please leave my name out of your Trump stereotypes