Axismaster
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:think:Axismaster said:Of course, it is my opinion that abortion is being used by Nazis in government to eliminate black people, as that is the community it most targets, and we all know that many Republicans like Trent Lott are racist. Yes you pro-life Republicans, your precious Messiahs are not really pro-life, they just have it to use you. The most telling evidence is the reluctance of conservative judges to do any real actions against Roe vs. Wade. If you want to be truly pro-life, don't vote Republican.
I would also recommend avoiding overblown hyperbole and that you investigate claims outside of prolife lie-sites before making them.Axismaster said:Well, I guess I was mistaken and used overblown rhetoric. Don't worry, unlike many people these days, I can admit it when I am wrong.
steen said:I would also recommend avoiding overblown hyperbole and that you investigate claims outside of prolife lie-sites before making them.
Quite. And Murder is the illegal killing of a person. So abortion is not murder, and your rethoric is just dishonest, prolife, revisionist linguistic hyperbole.Axismaster said:Statistics shouldn't matter because murder is murder no matter how you look at it.
steen said:Quite. And Murder is the illegal killing of a person. So abortion is not murder, and your rethoric is just dishonest, prolife, revisionist linguistic hyperbole.
Yes, the problem is that the prolifers so often spew dishonest, prolife, revisionist linguistic hyperbole.Engimo said:You know steen, I love the phrase, but if I had a nickel for every time that you said "dishonest, prolife, revisionist linguistic hyperbole.", I'd be a rich man.
oracle25 said:All the genetic information of life is stored within a fetus. This information just has to be decoded to create the baby. I am at a loss as to how you can say that this is not life, just because it still is relying on it's mother.
All the genetic information of life is also stored within a hydatidiform mole.oracle25 said:All the genetic information of life is stored within a fetus.
Well, there isn't a baby until birth.This information just has to be decoded to create the baby.
Hmm, I would LOVE for you to point me to where I said it wasn't "life"?I am at a loss as to how you can say that this is not life, just because it still is relying on it's mother.
Don't hold your breath. I'm still waiting on just one person to find proof of anyone saying they were pro-abortion, not just pro-choice..steen said:All the genetic information of life is also stored within a hydatidiform mole.
Well, there isn't a baby until birth.
Hmm, I would LOVE for you to point me to where I said it wasn't "life"?
I am sure you didn't deliberately mean to make a false claim here, right? But perhaps, next time you make an accusation, why don't you make sure it is actually true instead of ending up looking like a dishonest fool?
ngdawg said:Don't hold your breath. I'm still waiting on just one person to find proof of anyone saying they were pro-abortion, not just pro-choice..
huh? COuld you explain the reasoning behind your claim regarding pro-choice here?Axismaster said:And to the same extent most, but not all, pro-lifers also hypocritically support death penalty and war while most pro-choicers are hypocritically against it.
Sure, it is surgery, it is a medical procedure. It is much better to prevent the pregnancy in the first place (but then prolifers often oppose that as well).Now, I do not seriously believe that any of you pro-choicers actually want abortion to happen, in fact I hope you want it to be as little as possible.
Or oppose it. Goverment shouldn't even be involved. It is a medical issue best left to the medical field.My take simply is that no government should sanction such things.
steen said:It is much better to prevent the pregnancy in the first place (but then prolifers often oppose that as well).
Yes, I suspect we agree in a lot of things.Axismaster said:Actually, I am one pro-lifer who sees that birth control is actually a good thing. I am also one pro-lifer who sees no problem with stem cell research and actually thinks of it as a good thing.
Makes you a minority, certainly.Of course, I am not a Christian conservative like most of them.
Axismaster said:I am also one pro-lifer who sees no problem with stem cell research...
Originally Posted by Axismaster
I am also one pro-lifer who sees no problem with stem cell research...vergiss said:So some embryos are more equal than others? :roll:
steen said:Hmm, I would LOVE for you to point me to where I said it wasn't "life"?I am sure you didn't deliberately mean to make a false claim here, right? But perhaps, next time you make an accusation, why don't you make sure it is actually true instead of ending up looking like a dishonest fool?
oracle25 said:Very well, if it is in fact life, human life, than killing it is in fact murder. Please tell me how this is not blatant hypocrisy?
What nonsense. "Murder" is the illegal killing of a person. So merely having it be "human life" doesn't make it murder, your prolife, revisionist linguistic hyperbole none withstanding.oracle25 said:Very well, if it is in fact life, human life, than killing it is in fact murder.
Well, for starters, your claim is either ignorant, deceptive or illiterate. As such, everything else is irrelevant.Please tell me how this is not blatant hypocrisy?
<yawn> :roll:Axismaster said:Amen to that. They are the ones who are accusing the pro-life community of being hypocrites, but now it is right back at them.
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