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Did Trump screw the pooch with his comments about Mr & Mrs Khan

Did Trump screw the pooch with his comments about Mr & Mrs Khan


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Yes, for me he did. He has proven himself to be a bigot. Like minded bigots and those wanting throw out Muslims will still fully back him.

Just look at the assholes who support Trump here!
 
There is a rebellion against the ELITE taking place all around this planet, it has been going on for years, it started with the Arab Spring.

If you are not keeping up then of course you will never understand that which is going on around you.

Don't worry, you rebellion will end November. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 

That article was posted on Monday, November 16, 2015. You really are a lawyer, aren't you?
 
Trump only screws the best pooches, he'll guarantees you, he has no trouble in that area.
 
What? Screw the pooch?

He's got a thing for dogs now?

Having the hots for his eldest daughter was not enough for him I guess.

Everyone keep their animals and attractive daughters locked up...Trump is coming to town.


 
Jumping in without reading the posts before #241.

his opponents … if they do screw up, Trump rises above them in the polls.

I continue to believe that Frumpy will be crushed in November. I expect Hellory will tear him into small pieces of cat food in the debates, if the Clown doesn't figure out a way to back out, football games or whatever.

Falcons vs. Saints, Sept 26th. Yeah, I suppose Clinton might win GA.

Jints at Lambeau, Oct 9. Frumpy can't win NY, but I suppose has a chance in Dairyland.

I don't see how this man who has sacrificed so much for the country by working hard and hiring people to make him a lot of money can possibly finish within five points of Grams.

Obama was … expressing that government and the participation/contribution of others is necessary

Yes.

>>but … he discounted that the business would not have been built had the builder himself not shown the vision, initiative, and taken the risk to build it.

Where do you find that?

The relevant line from the speech is:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that."​

I'd say he meant "you didn't build the roads and bridges."

He also said:

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."​

>>It is that truth that our President does not understand or appreciate.

Any evidence of that?

>>He think government is responsible for all that is good.

Sounds like rather absurd rhetoric.

>>I don't expect liberals/progressives are capable of seeing reality in that way.

I don't think yer being realistic, and that may explain what's going on.

If, however, do you mean it will hurt him in the polls? Not a bit.

Death by a thousand tweets perhaps.

>>This is a test really on how many 'right thinking people' there are in America.

Enough, I expect.

>>if the guy was drowning and I was the only one with a rope.....I sell it to him a foot at a time

I might throw him the rope, but I'm not sure I'd be able to hold onto one end of it. I might first need to check my ethnic heritage and religion to see if I belong in the country.

We'll see if making a gold star mother cry on national TV will help The Donald get into the White House. I doubt it will.

She says it was the picture of her son, slain in defence of liberty and justice, on the big screen behind her that troubled her. She's done just fine since then in communicating her feelings while being composed. frumpy is being whittled down more and more every day. On election day, there'll be nothin' left but a greasy, orange spot.

Obama's "you didn't build that" statement … Was pretty clear what he said

I agree.
 
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At this point it doesn't matter.
What people think he said and what he said are two different things.
People are gonna lose their **** over this because the family wears the victim armor of, dead military person.
Not trying to be cold of callous but that's the truth.
 
What people think he said and what he said are two different things.

As a strong anti-Frumpy advocate, I have no problem with having people assess his exact words, on this and other matters. There's quite a collection, and it will only expand. I don't see any misinterpretations going on.
 
Not really. He does stuff like his all the time, and it doesn't seem to really effect him or his chances.

It's kind of a working formula for him, honestly.

Sad - but true. Like the idiot said - he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his support would remain intact.
 
As a strong anti-Frumpy advocate, I have no problem with having people assess his exact words, on this and other matters. There's quite a collection, and it will only expand. I don't see any misinterpretations going on.

The point is, he was stupid to think he can overcome minority and military status, those together are third wheel.
In reality, none of that stuff should prevent him from criticizing those people, they threw themselves in the political realm.

I lose sympathy for them, because they chose to do this and feigned victim hood because of their son's death.
 
But what does that have to do with Trump?
Why should they be passed over for criticism?

I was responding to your one statement; that they were feigning victimhood. I thought your use of the word 'feigning' was odd. Nothing more.
 
I was responding to your one statement; that they were feigning victimhood. I thought your use of the word 'feigning' was odd. Nothing more.

Feigning in this sense that he(Trump) did something wrong to him.
I really don't see them as victims, nor would I necessarily say they sacrificed anything.

Sacrifice implies that they chose to send their son to the military, rather than he choosing for himself.
 
VFW slams Trump, Gold Star families demand apology - CNNPolitics.com

 
The point is, he was stupid to think he can overcome minority and military status, those together are third wheel.

Third rail?

>>none of that stuff should prevent him from criticizing those people, they threw themselves in the political realm.

Sure. He can criticise anyone he want to criticise. But if his criticisms are widely held to be invalid or worse, he may pay a price politically.

>>feigned victim hood because of their son's death.

You see the Khans as pretending to be victims? Of what? Anti-Muslim bigotry? Why did Frumpy speculate about whether or not Mrs Khan "wasn't allowed" to speak? Perhaps he's not bigoted, but simply ignorant of Islamic culture.

Feigning in this sense that he(Trump) did something wrong to him.

I don't think Mr Khan was saying Frumpy did anything wrong to him, but rather that his proposed ban on Muslim immigration would damage the country.

>>nor would I necessarily say they sacrificed anything. Sacrifice implies that they chose to send their son to the military, rather than he choosing for himself.

An interesting take. Their son was killed in service to their country. I figure that's a measurable sacrifice.
 

I don't always believe that "widely held" things are necessarily correct.
Yes, I think they're acting like that and using their son to cover themselves from reciprocal criticism.

Literally, the only thing Trump could possibly say, is something nice.
Otherwise he would of gotten this reaction, the reason, their son was in the military and he was KIA.
It's near sainthood in this country.



Did their son possibly sacrifice, sure.
Did they sacrifice, no, unless they made their son join the military for him to die.

That is based on the meaning of the word sacrifice.
Did they lose their son, yes and that's terrible.
 
Would it be possible that you use the quote functions for these. Darned hard to read.
 
That article was posted on Monday, November 16, 2015. You really are a lawyer, aren't you?

you think she has improved her position among the military? Geez that's really a stupid comment.
 
you think she has improved her position among the military? Geez that's really a stupid comment.

Perhaps, but you should have a later article if you want to back up your claim.
 
Perhaps, but you should have a later article if you want to back up your claim.

why? it was one of the best. and deals with her 24+ years in the public eye. You're just mad you cannot counter it.
 

It only illustrates that the President does not understand the concept of social contract. Good government, including roads and bridges, exist because there was aleady private commerce and industry there. The social contract happen when there is need for something and it is practical for them to build it together rather than each doing it for themselves. That would include roads, bridges, water systems, sewer systems, electrical grids, fire and police protection, hospitals, traffic lights, etc. etc. etc. It is not a benevolent government that provides these things. It is a government responsive to and in service to the people who fund it that provides these things. And pretty much everybody who wants such things built wants that because it benefits himself or herself personally and/or helps the person do business for his/her own benefit more effectively and efficiently.

And the guy who built that business almost certainly did so for his own benefit. His efforts were entirely self serving. But in so doing he benefits all the others and also makes those roads and bridges possible. This is what the President doesn't seem to understand. An economy running because everybody works together is a Marxist philosophy that has been proven to be ineffective everywhere it has been tried. A booming economy is accomplished by everybody working for their own self interests and in so doing they benefit all.
 
NO. This is a media driven non-issue. Wont sway a single vote. Its enough to have ten threads here, but non political junkies couldn't care less.

No, it's not a media driven issue... if President Obama had insulted the parents of a fallen soldier you'd think A LOT differently. it won't pull a single die hard trumper but they are not enough to win any election... I'll bet it did cause millions of independents to stop and think.

Here is a born wealthy man who thinks he has 'sacrificed' by making billions on speculative deals and quick turnover projects. He questions a mother's silence as if her religion muzzles her- I doubt any sane person would if that mother was a white 6th generation 'Merican.

He shows only shallow ego driven thought- I see that as playing hard on the minds of many voters who didn't attend the GOP primary process... eace
 
why? it was one of the best. and deals with her 24+ years in the public eye. You're just mad you cannot counter it.

Wait and see if this matters in November. You are likely to have your taxes raised under a Hillary Clinton presidency and it pisses you off. Probably not as much as I enjoy it, but it upsets you just the same.
 
Wait and see if this matters in November. You are likely to have your taxes raised under a Hillary Clinton presidency and it pisses you off. Probably not as much as I enjoy it, but it upsets you just the same.

Hatred is a major factor of what motivates Democrats. You just prove it-you hate people who are more successful than you are. You don't benefit if others have to pay more taxes, but you are oozing envy and you want those who are more talented and prosperous than you are to get stuck with higher taxes. its a common disease among the envious leftwing
 
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