Repubteen said:In a sense this country is based on christian morals. All our laws are based on right and wrong, which is outlined in the christian religion. the country did not based on Islam where is you blow yourself up and kill people while doing it you'll be rewarded with 72 virgins.
As with most con artists, perhaps OBI subscribes to the P. T. Barnum school of thought. "There's a sucker born every minute, and two to take him."noway!!! said:All religions have a definition of what is right and what is wrong, even islam, and no where in the Koran does it say you should kill yourserlf, it's Osama Bin Idiot who has intereperted it that way.
Fantasea said:As with most con artists, perhaps OBI subscribes to the P. T. Barnum school of thought. "There's a sucker born every minute, and two to take him."
Or else, the Josef Goebbels technique of preaching that if you tell lie, big enough, often enough, and long enough, many folks will eventually accept it as the truth.
Or, maybe he took a course or two in brainwashing at the now defunct Kremlin School of Mind Control.
Anyone who thinks this stuff doesn't work, needs only to take a look at the success the Bush-haters have enjoyed in their recruiting efforts.
What is your point in reference to my post?Fantasea said:As with most con artists, perhaps OBI subscribes to the P. T. Barnum school of thought. "There's a sucker born every minute, and two to take him."
Or else, the Josef Goebbels technique of preaching that if you tell lie, big enough, often enough, and long enough, many folks will eventually accept it as the truth.
Or, maybe he took a course or two in brainwashing at the now defunct Kremlin School of Mind Control.
Anyone who thinks this stuff doesn't work, needs only to take a look at the success the Bush-haters have enjoyed in their recruiting efforts.
lamaror said:Ezekial has nothing to do with the question Did the founders intend this to a christian nation. I have read some of the many writings left by the many of those who were at the constitutional convention and I have let their own writings answer this christian. I am not interesting in rewriting our history for the sake of making christians happy. We were given freedom of religion and in 1789, that was something unheard of accept in Rhode Island. I am proud to be a Christian but I will not lie and deceive because other christiians do it. and want me to. :mrgreen:
Reverend Ed said:Who is America in Biblical prophecy? (Jeopardy music playing quietly in the background...)
I simply support your position, with a few additional references.noway!!! said:What is your point in reference to my post?
JustineCredible said:What is Myster Babylon?
Reverend Ed said:Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winnah!!! Now take out your dollar bill and notice there are three nations represented on the Great Seal; America, Egypt, and Israel (the Star of David is formed by the 13 stars above the Eagle's head) and then read Ezekiel 17 again. Egypt and Israel make a pact, just as Egypt and Israel made a pact in the 1970's. Babylon (America) is the string puller behind the pact.
More later, if anyone's interested.
JustineCredible said:I can see you watched "National Treasure" WAY too many times.
Reverend Ed said:No, I just studied this subject for 20 years. I've read books that some people devoted to magick would love to own a copy of. Discovering the nature of the Biblical Babylon was what made me believe in God. My personal study of this subject (no one taught or preached it to me) made me turn away from magick and satanism.
Why doesn't it surprise me that someone into satanism and the like would eventually discover God? Have you heard about Oz yet? :2razz:Reverend Ed said:No, I just studied this subject for 20 years. I've read books that some people devoted to magick would love to own a copy of. Discovering the nature of the Biblical Babylon was what made me believe in God. My personal study of this subject (no one taught or preached it to me) made me turn away from magick and satanism.
JustineCredible said:Silly boy, children shouldn't play with the black arts anyway!
It only leads to kids wearing Goth getups, listening to that Devil's Rock Music, and OMG OMG OMG.............sex..................
sorry, levity was in order here.
Why doesn't it surprise me that someone into satanism and the like would eventually discover God? Have you heard about Oz yet?
Reverend Ed said:Levity is fine... and I didn't "play" with the black arts, I was a master at them. I am not a child, and most people who knew me from my 20's know that I do not joke when it comes to prophecy or magick or Christianity. The evil part of Christianity, encompassed by the powerful that pull its strings, is much more evil than the most sincere avowed Satanist could ever hope to be.
The subject is no joking matter to me, and if my insights on the subject are unwanted, I'll just keep my thoughts to myself.
Ok, first off, I was only trying to add levity, which you grabbed, ran off with and replaced with your sinister reply.
Secondly, I was in no way "making fun of" your personal beliefs, whatever they may be. Again, I was only attempting at levity, which I can see was simply not taken well by you at all.[/
Thanks. Keep up the good work.I haven't quoted scripture yet, attempting not to be preachy to the unbelievers out there.
Get yourself what is called a red letter Bible. The words in red are the actual words of Jesus. Very different from the rest of the Bible. You're the only other self proffessed libertarian on this site. Welcome, I could use the help. Ever hear of radio talk show Neil Boortz?libertarian_knight said:Me? I just wonder what happened to Jesus own writings. Surely an infuential Rabbi who was well versed in Jewish lore and faith, and "The" Son of God was not illiterate. With this, bear in mind that faith in the men holding positions of power have told you about God, is not the same as faith in God.
Deegan said:Why are we so often pontificating on what some old men thought 200 years ago, and why should we hold their thoughts to be so highly regarded today?:doh
Deegan said:Why are we so often pontificating on what some old men thought 200 years ago, and why should we hold their thoughts to be so highly regarded today?:doh
I don't often engage in religious discussions, and I'm sure you and I disagree about a lot of christian doctrine, but in this matter you are right...Reverend Ed said:You should have read the passage of scripture before you judged the intent of my post... If you had done so you would know that I don't believe America to be a 'Christian' nation; in fact I believe quite the contrary. America's role in prophecy is not 'Christian'. If someone comes up with the magic name from Ezekiel 17 or Revelation for our country, I'll expand on why I believe what I believe. In fact, I would venture to guess that some Christians will tell me to put my tinfoil hat on and some of you will be spooked by my response. I consider America to be the ultimate conspiracy.
Who is America in Biblical prophecy? (Jeopardy music playing quietly in the background...)
JustineCredible said:What Sebastian lacks is a certain belief in patriotism. I believe in the spirit of what our founding fathers were trying to accomplish.
sebastiansdreams said:You think you are able to judge my stance on patriotism based on two sentences of sarcasm? You presume far too much. I do believe that there is a great deal of wisdom in the philosophies that the founding fathers used (not that they were the creators of these philosophies mind you). I do believe that they had a great deal of foresigh and were doing their best to shape our government as well as they could. However, to enshrine them the way that we do... to make them into demi-gods is what I am sick of. To suggest that they were more profound or had a better grasp of what America is and should be than anyone living in America today is ridiculous. The Consititution was ammended because it had screw ups. It is our place to continue to carry it into the next century, rather then trying to figure out what it was they had in mind when they wrote it, why don't we take what we, as a country, believe America ought to be in the future, and work from there. If that is a "lack of belief in patriotism" then so be it. But I would much rather spend my time moving forward in a way that is fitting to the times than attempt to figure out what men who have been dead for two hundred years intended for the country to be after they were dead.
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