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Did Anyone Else Read This And Feel Chilled?

Nobody cares.
Lots of us decent and patriotic Americans care very deeply that some of our fellow citizens are still supporting the election cheater, secret documents' thief and violent insurrection inciter.
 
Lots of us decent and patriotic Americans care very deeply that some of our fellow citizens are still supporting the election cheater, secret documents' thief and violent insurrection inciter.
Who also doesn't have an ounce of decency in him, is bereft of empathy, and only seeks to enrich himself. Like he told John Kelly at Arlington (where Kelly's son is buried), "I don't get it. What was in it for them?" Tells you everything you need to know about his lack of character, in both moral and patriotic terms.
 
Lots of us decent and patriotic Americans care very deeply that some of our fellow citizens are still supporting the election cheater, secret documents' thief and violent insurrection inciter.

She's gone.
 
How are they defining dictatorship? I can't see any process by which he remains president after 4 years. Do they mean dictatorship until the next election?


2030 election? What election?

President-for-life Trump in firing 54,000 civil servants as promised and replaced them with lackies, who promptly "repaired the flawed two party process" that was never intended by the great, gifted and clairvoyant founding fathers who gave us the great second amendment!

Now that the president is reduced to one candidate with one party, "elections" are a 'rubber stamp" of the all powerful, all knowing, all corrupt state.

"Elections? Of course we have elections, but the people's vote doesn't count....only the ELECTORAL COLLEGE made up of the pardoned participants of the "Holy Insurrection" of January 6th. Praise Trump!
 
Some liberals are feigning fear of a dictatorship under the Honorable Donald John Trump.

He could not be a dictator if he tried.

The American system of government is full of safeguards that prevent that.

When President Trump asked for troops to patrol D.C., the Pentagon told him to go pound sand.

When it was feared that besieged President Nixon might use the troops to stay in power, his Secretary of Defense told all generals to ignore any orders from the President.

I have read that the Washington Post is in serious financial straits.

That's great news!

Besides, if there ever is a dictatorship (such as a president unilaterally forgiving college loans!), it will be under a "Democratic" president and Congress. Maybe in 2025.


Let's talk about pardons.....
 
She's gone.
Sometimes MAGAs get huffy when talk turns to morality. They've even made an ugly name for it: Virtue-signaling.

Imagine that. Not just refusing to roll up one's sleeves and discuss the moral good... but to insult the very process of discussing the moral good.

MAGA.
 
You are a second hand witness, for you have not shown anything, but speak about an article originated by the Atlantic, which has been disproved many times. This is the problem with propaganda.
You didn't read what I said.
I did not get my information from "The Atlantic".
I saw Bill Barr on videotape. I also saw Donald Trump on videotape.

(The wrong part of your post has been crossed out.)
That will allow you to read for comprehension.
 
You didn't read what I said.
I did not get my information from "The Atlantic".
I saw Bill Barr on videotape. I also saw Donald Trump on videotape.

(The wrong part of your post has been crossed out.)
That will allow you to read for comprehension.

Post them....tks.
 
I wasn't going to post about this but I couldn't let it go. This was in "The Washington Post" today. It doesn't belong in the "Breaking News" forum since it is an opinion piece. It is also behind a paywall so many people would have trouble gaining access to it. But I didn't want to read it and fail to mention it on Debate Politics because I found it so chilling. I wanted to know if other members had also read it and what they thought about it.
Not chilled. It's just the usual leftist whining about how someone who doesn't agree with their agenda is a horrible person.
 
If you want to see what the left wants for America, look at what Joe Stalin did for Russia.
If you want to see what the right wants for America, review the J6 videos and listen to Trump announcing his plans to pardon those lovely people.
 
So, John Kelly doesn't like Trump. Why is this surprising to you? There was a time he did like him very much, and many of his beliefs echoed Trump's.

See first souce that proves the latter. See second source that proves the former. So while I respect Kelly's service, pardon me if I don't care what he says about Trump now. He is entitled to his opinion.

The point is, Kelly changes/changed his opinion of Trump like most change their underwear depending on his audience.


Yes, I would certainly change my underwear if I discovered it was dirty.
 
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Some liberals are feigning fear of a dictatorship under the Honorable Donald John Trump.

He could not be a dictator if he tried.

The American system of government is full of safeguards that prevent that.

When President Trump asked for troops to patrol D.C., the Pentagon told him to go pound sand.

When it was feared that besieged President Nixon might use the troops to stay in power, his Secretary of Defense told all generals to ignore any orders from the President.

I have read that the Washington Post is in serious financial straits.

That's great news!

Besides, if there ever is a dictatorship (such as a president unilaterally forgiving college loans!), it will be under a "Democratic" president and Congress. Maybe in 2025.
Obviously Trump’s support of torture and war crimes pales in comparison to the horror of forgiving college loans. But seriously, I do agree that US institutions and the American people will um, trump Trump’s hinted at plans for dictator-like governance, should they amount to more than his usual bluster and be attempted. The same sort of people who took to the streets in unprecedented celebration of his defeat in 2020 will take to the streets again, and to paraphrase the late activist Mario Savio of years past, throw themselves on the levers and gears of the machinery of Trump’s tyranny.
 
Obviously Trump’s support of torture and war crimes pales in comparison to the horror of forgiving college loans. But seriously, I do agree that US institutions and the American people will um, trump Trump’s hinted at plans for dictator-like governance, should they amount to more than his usual bluster and be attempted. The same sort of people who took to the streets in unprecedented celebration of his defeat in 2020 will take to the streets again, and to paraphrase the late activist Mario Savio of years past, throw themselves on the levers and gears of the machinery of Trump’s tyranny.
No tyranny on Mr. Trump's part. Traitor Joe is the one who is jailing people for peacefully protesting his stolen election.


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If you want to see what the right wants for America, review the J6 videos and listen to Trump announcing his plans to pardon those lovely people.
People have every right to peacefully protest a stolen election.

Well, according to the Constitution at least. But apparently Traitor Joe suspended it.


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Breathtaking horseshit.
Unfortunately no. Traitor Joe is even putting people in prison for protesting his stolen election on January 6.

And the left's perpetual whitewashing of history is an effort that even the KGB would be proud of.

And just look at the way the left always tries to impose the same stupid economic ideas that communism tried to impose. Any jurisdiction that the left gains control over always end up a economic disaster area.

If you want to see what the left would impose on America if they were ever given a chance, all you have to do it look at what life was like under Stalin.
 
Unfortunately no. Traitor Joe is even putting people in prison for protesting his stolen election on January 6.
The reason Trump has to be kept off the ballot with the 14th Amendment is that we already tried voting him out. We tried to get rid of him by having a vote, letting "the people" decide. They decided. They voted for Joe Biden.

But look what happened? Trump resorted to violence and an insurrection. He attempted a coup d'état. That is why the 14th Amendment has to exist. It has to protect the United States from people who will never give up their belief in and allegiance to The Confederacy-or Donald Trump-no matter what the voters have said they wanted.

"How can it be that nearly three years after Donald Trump incited an insurrection to stay in office, interfering with the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in American history, he remains eligible for a second term as president? In a stunning ruling on Tuesday night, the Colorado Supreme Court answered that question: He can’t be allowed to run again.

The court’s 133-page decision said that he is not eligible to be on the state’s ballot for president under Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution’s 14th Amendment, which bars from public office anyone who swore an oath to the Constitution and then engaged in or aided an insurrection against it. The Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol was an insurrection, the court found, upholding part of a trial judge’s ruling from last month, and Mr. Trump engaged in it.

In so ruling, the court produced an epochal moment in American law and politics, a rebuke that will reverberate through the ages no matter whether the United States Supreme Court chooses to uphold it."

 
The reason Trump has to be kept off the ballot with the 14th Amendment is that we already tried voting him out. We tried to get rid of him by having a vote, letting "the people" decide. They decided. They voted for Joe Biden.
There is no way to prove that Joe Biden actually won the election. The left always cheats. They may well have done so in 2020.

The left also cheated by waging an illegal witch hunt against the Trump Administration on fraudulent claims of colluding with Russia.

And now they are trying to cheat by taking Mr. Trump's name off the ballot.


But look what happened? Trump resorted to violence and an insurrection. He attempted a coup d'état.
That is incorrect. All that was was a peaceful protest against a stolen election.

If protests are insurrections, then the left commits insurrections all the time, and we can disqualify at least 90% of the Democratic Party from running for office.


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So you think J6 was peaceful?
There were some protesters who assaulted police officers. I called for those people to be prosecuted even before the left started pretending to care about the officers.

But the majority of the protesters did not assault anyone at all.
 
There is no way to prove that Joe Biden actually won the election. The left always cheats. They may well have done so in 2020.

The left also cheated by waging an illegal witch hunt against the Trump Administration on fraudulent claims of colluding with Russia.

And now they are trying to cheat by taking Mr. Trump's name off the ballot.
Right, wrong, or indifferent, many voters who don't follow the politics in excruciating detail, are going to come to this fairly accurate, if rather broad brushed, conclusion.

That is incorrect. All that was was a peaceful protest against a stolen election.

If protests are insurrections, then the left commits insurrections all the time, and we can disqualify at least 90% of the Democratic Party from running for office.


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There were some protesters who assaulted police officers. I called for those people to be prosecuted even before the left started pretending to care about the officers.

But the majority of the protesters did not assault anyone at all.
 
There were some protesters who assaulted police officers. I called for those people to be prosecuted even before the left started pretending to care about the officers.

But the majority of the protesters did not assault anyone at all.
Yeah, and the majority of Japanese did not assault anyone on 12/7/1941.

Why did American rightists get so upset about Pearl Harbor and pretend to care about our soldiers?
 
"A Trump Dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending." by Robert Kagan

How would that be any different than a Hiden Dictatorship?

Since the goal of Liberals is to destroy the federal republic by shifting it to a unitary-State --which would be necessary for dictatorship -- I'm not seeing any difference.

Seriously, two old guy hacks is the best the US can do for presidential candidates?
 
I wasn't going to post about this but I couldn't let it go. This was in "The Washington Post" today. It doesn't belong in the "Breaking News" forum since it is an opinion piece. It is also behind a paywall so many people would have trouble gaining access to it. But I didn't want to read it and fail to mention it on Debate Politics because I found it so chilling. I wanted to know if other members had also read it and what they thought about it.

"A Trump Dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending." by Robert Kagan





It can't be that important if its behind a subscription pay wall.
 
Since the goal of Liberals is to destroy the federal republic by shifting it to a unitary-State --which would be necessary for dictatorship -- I'm not seeing any difference.
Are you a liberal?

If not, how do you know so much about their goals?
 
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