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A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
Personally, I could. There are lots of crimes committed in our society that aren't solved until years or decades later. We don't tell a murderer his crime doesn't matter because he now has a wife and kids. We don't tell a rapist that all is cool because he now has a good job and is caring for his elderly parents.
These attempts to ignore the laws of the land on the basis of emotional blackmail are really contemptible in my view.
Yep. No problem whatsoever. In 15 years the couple has had ample opportunity to get right with the law. If they chose not to then the matter is on them, not me.
I generally find you to be a very reasonable poster on here. So why on earth would you compare someone that comes to this country illegally with murderers and rapists?
A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
Change the crime to fraud, say assuming someone else's identity, would you let them slide because they have nice children?
A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
The kids go with them.
I think that this is an example of something that many people can support in the abstract - deporting illegal immigrants regardless of how long they have been here or what their family situation is here, but few people could do it if was all on them as it would be far too messy and in the end they have to sleep at night.
If it was entirely my decision, looking some kids in the eye as I tear their family apart is simply not something I could live with myself having done and I would suspect that many people that vote yes in this poll could not actually do it themselves either.
Not necessarily as their country of origin has to agree to take the kids. Mexico might would but that doesn't mean that every country someone might illegally come here from would.
Nope. I couldn't vote for somebody to do it either, and I don't.
That's entirely untrue. Show a case where that has ever happened.
A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.
It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
I generally find you to be a very reasonable poster on here. So why on earth would you compare someone that comes to this country illegally with murderers and rapists?
So people who commit crimes shouldn't get arrested if they have kids who have friends and play sports? Dare to dream.
The parents in the example you gave broke the law. The kids you mention seem irrelevant to the story. If I embezzled money from my company, and I got caught, I wouldn't expect to receive a pass from law enforcement and the court system because my kids have friends and play sports.
I don't think most people see it as fraud though. Fraud involves cheating others. Most people would not commit fraud regardless of where they are from. However, a lot of people would illegally immigrate to another country if their situation was desperate enough and they saw opportunity there.
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