ANAV said:While the leader of the DNC has no faith in mighty US Military, the Democrat's 2004 presidential hopeful accuses the troops of acts of terror.
Howard Dean said "The idea that the United States is going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong," As many of you know, I'm in the military and I know one hell of a lot more than Dean and we can and will win this war.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/5/200637.shtml
John Kerry accused the troops of terror " ... And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the - of - the historical customs, religious customs." This does sound like the same borderline acts of treason he committed after Vietnam.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/5/162822.shtml
With leaders like this who demoralize the our troops and invigorate the enemy, no wonder the military voted 73% Republican. Lets have some faith for our guys can we?
aquapub said:If Democrats want to understand why they are seen as unpatriotic, even anti-American, they need only look at their own party leadership. In recent days Al Gore, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and even John Murtha have done little more than act as a chorus of traitors, propagandizing for our enemies (as ALWAYS!!!).
This is not a mere matter of Republicans smearing Democrats for disagreeing with them. Democrats are bringing hope to our enemies and demoralizing our troops by lying about them. All Republicans can do is set the record straight and call these Democrats out for the treasonous, lying cowards they are.
The outrageously false smears they have leveled against our troops and against their mission, portraying them as committing acts of terror, as being broken, doomed, and fighting for a lie demonstrates exactly what Republicans are talking about. Every time one of these self-serving partisan cowards calls for America to retreat from the terrorists, it is played all across the Arab media to encourage our enemies. It is treasonous.
aquapub said:If Democrats want to understand why they are seen as unpatriotic, even anti-American, they need only look at their own party leadership. In recent days Al Gore, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and even John Murtha have done little more than act as a chorus of traitors, propagandizing for our enemies (as ALWAYS!!!).
This is not a mere matter of Republicans smearing Democrats for disagreeing with them. Democrats are bringing hope to our enemies and demoralizing our troops by lying about them. All Republicans can do is set the record straight and call these Democrats out for the treasonous, lying cowards they are.
The outrageously false smears they have leveled against our troops and against their mission, portraying them as committing acts of terror, as being broken, doomed, and fighting for a lie demonstrates exactly what Republicans are talking about. Every time one of these self-serving partisan cowards calls for America to retreat from the terrorists, it is played all across the Arab media to encourage our enemies. It is treasonous.
I'm sorry that the only way you can feel support from the dems is if they agree with you on every single issue regarding this war in Iraq.
How is it that you know more than John Murtha? He had as many years in the military as how old you are. He fought in Vietnam, and he earned himself some impressive decorations.
Is what John Kerry is saying true? Is there any validity to his statements?
aquapub said:And there is no greater lie than to say it is patriotic to support handing over Iraq to terrorists just because the ever-clueless Democrats can't grasp that Saddam (the terror-sponsoring, genocidal maniac who routinely launched missiles at a nuclear power-Israel) was a threat.
Even IF Saddam's STILL UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD weren't just destroyed or moved during the MONTHS UPON MONTHS of public debate about invading, it still wasn't a mistake to topple this huge threat to us and our allies. Pick a reason. There are a multitude of them as to why Saddam was too much of a threat to be left in power.
This BS spin about the whole war being a mistake just because Saddam got rid of his WMDs before we got there doesn't withstand one second of serious scrutiny. Dems are habitual liars about Iraq.
PALEEEEZE!!!!! :roll:
what a bunch of Crap. Anyone who can write this lying trash is either mentally ill or subject to some serious thinking disorders.
Huge threat? Where was this threat? I don't remember Saddam threatening us.aquapub said:Even IF Saddam's STILL UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD weren't just destroyed or moved during the MONTHS UPON MONTHS of public debate about invading, it still wasn't a mistake to topple this huge threat to us and our allies.
THere are people that believe that this war on a terrorist organization cannot be won in the fashion they are waging it. The governement has done more by derailing the way in which terrorists are funded. Plus a clear defaninition of what is a terrorist and what is an insurgant are at issue in Iraq. If we leave (which we'll do over time) and the country falls to civil war then that is their responsibility and there is nothing we can do about it. Ww can't choose sideds in a civil war. And Al Quadia doesn't have the capability to take over a country let alone run it. So the fear of a terrorist take over of Iraq is just another fear tactic.ANAV said:While the leader of the DNC has no faith in mighty US Military, the Democrat's 2004 presidential hopeful accuses the troops of acts of terror.
Howard Dean said "The idea that the United States is going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong," As many of you know, I'm in the military and I know one hell of a lot more than Dean and we can and will win this war.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/5/200637.shtml
John Kerry accused the troops of terror " ... And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the - of - the historical customs, religious customs." This does sound like the same borderline acts of treason he committed after Vietnam.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/5/162822.shtml
With leaders like this who demoralize the our troops and invigorate the enemy, no wonder the military voted 73% Republican. Lets have some faith for our guys can we?
Kerry: And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the--of--the historical customs, religious customs. Whether you like it or not--
Schieffer: Yeah.
Kerry: --Iraqis should be doing that.
This is your second post today accusing someone of mental problems. Can you give us your credentials please?dragonslayer said:what a bunch of Crap. Anyone who can write this lying trash is either mentally ill or subject to some serious thinking disorders.
Source please.YNKYH8R said:And Al Quadia doesn't have the capability to take over a country let alone run it. So the fear of a terrorist take over of Iraq is just another fear tactic.
That is because Republicans will "defend" freedom but don't want you to practice them. Seeing the GOp and their supporters (even here) go nuts when someone says "I don't support this war" is amusing. They forget when you og to war you take the country with you and if the country doesn't stand behind the war....well then it's pretty much over.Mikkel said:I find it ironic that Democrats are being labeled traitors, and Republicans are being hailed as patriotic (Libby, Rove).
Treason has to be an act, not an opinion. If you want to call Democrats traitors, that's your opinion, but if you really believe that they are treasonous for voicing their positions on Iraq, then I'd say you'd probably rather be living in some sort of Stalinist state.
These dems are not attacking the troops, they are attacking the Republican leadership. Simply because 73% of the troops voted republican does not mean that they are the same thing as the Republican leadership. So while you may call a lot of what the Democrats say about the war spin, I say your interpretation of what they are really saying equally despicable spin.
[MOD MODE]dragonslayer said:what a bunch of Crap. Anyone who can write this lying trash is either mentally ill or subject to some serious thinking disorders.
http://www.msnbc.com/id/10099807/site/newsweek/KCConservative said:Source please.
I'll need something other than the MSNBC homepage. Which one of those 100 articles shows that al-quida is not capable of taking over a country?YNKYH8R said:
aps said:I'm sorry that the only way you can feel support from the dems is if they agree with you on every single issue regarding this war in Iraq. I am sorry you are so small minded that it's essentially your way or the highway. So you're 37 years old. How is it that you know more than John Murtha? He had as many years in the military as how old you are. He fought in Vietnam, and he earned himself some impressive decorations. How is it that you know more than he does? It's okay, ANAV, for people to have varying opinions on this war. There are people in the military who believe we cannot win this war. Are you going to call them "non supporters" as well?
Is what John Kerry is saying true? Is there any validity to his statements? If so, it's not treason--it's fact. And what he is saying now isn't what he said during Vietnam. And when he testified on the hill during Vietnam, he was relaying what others had told him--not what he had personally witnessed. Atrocities occurred in Vietnam by American soliders. Are you going to deny that? The Republicans have turned his testimony into what Kerry accused other soldiers of doing. If you verified all the facts you would know that this was not the case AT ALL.
The military voted 73% republican is probably because most of them are enlisted people. I am guessing that the educated officers had less of a % voting for Bush.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+terrorist+temptation+newsweekKCConservative said:I'll need something other than the MSNBC homepage. Which one of those 100 articles shows that al-quida is not capable of taking over a country?
Calm2Chaos said:And I am sorry your support of the troops consists of comparing them to terrorist. I know a lot of guys in the military. And I can tell you for a fact. They don't want nor need that kind of support. If your going to make these comparisons or support those that do then NO you are not supporting the troops no matter how much you might want to delude yourself that you are. Making blanket statements depicting the military is absurd. But the dems have been doing this throughout. I have heard refrences to Nazis, stormtroopers, and terrorist all in describing our military. IMO if your supporting the people that say this crap, your aginst our troops not for them.
I was in the line of Dads and kids at Burger King last Saturday when my 10-year-old, who was trying to make sense of my left-wing sister-in-law's ranings at Shabbos dinner the night before, asked me about it. I blurted out unthinkingly (usually I try to be circumspect in public as to avoid a scene), "The Democrats want to end the war now when they can still find somebody to surrender to." To my surprise, the dads around me cracked up. Not very grammatical, but to the point.
aps said:The military voted 73% republican is probably because most of them are enlisted people. I am guessing that the educated officers had less of a % voting for Bush.
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