Demonstrators with Nazi flags appear outside performance of 'The Diary of Anne Frank'

[NolanVoyd]

Or, they are antifa black bloc punks "pranking" America, to support the lefty narrative.

But they aren't.

Facts matter.

 

[Argent]

If that was true, you wouldn't have tried to inflate their numbers, by counting in them an organization led by a black cuban.


Numbers matter. An American with neonazi movement of say, a million nazis, is an America where the president sounding an alarm about nazis is called for.

On the other hand, an American with a neonazi movement of say, 5k, is an American where a President sounding an alarm about nazis, is that president being a shit talker.

I didn't try to inflate the numbers. I gave you links to an organization who tracks extremist groups. I think you are comfortable in your denial that it doesn't take many people to upset the apple cart. Teeny tiny woman by the name of Rosa Parks had a great effect on segregation. Teeny tiny mustachioed Hitler had a great effect on the world.

 

[Corbell]

But they aren't.

Facts matter.

How do you know that?

 

[Corbell]

I didn't try to inflate the numbers. I gave you links to an organization who tracks extremist groups. I think you are comfortable in your denial that it doesn't take many people to upset the apple cart. Teeny tiny woman by the name of Rosa Parks had a great effect on segregation. Teeny tiny mustachioed Hitler had a great effect on the world.

Yes, you did. You tried to count an organization led by a black cuban as white nationalist.


That's you trying to inflate teh number of neonazis/white surpemacists.


When you did that, you showed that YOU know that the numbers matter.

 

[Argent]

Yes, you did. You tried to count an organization led by a black cuban as white nationalist.

They are considered a white nationalist group by SPLC and are regarded as such by others. If you are unhappy about that, you should spend your energy trying to correct the info with those groups.

"Proud Boys, neofascist white nationalist organization established in the United States in 2016. The group’s members were noted for their misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, QAnon-related beliefs, their support for U.S. Pres. Donald Trump, and their propensity for street violence. The Proud Boys were designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and were designated a terrorist organization by the governments of Canada and New Zealand."

Proud Boys | Leader, Founder, History, January 6 Attack, & Donald Trump | Britannica

Neofascist white nationalist organization established in the United States in 2016. The group’s members were noted for their misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, QAnon-related beliefs, their support for U.S. Pres. Donald Trump, and their propensity for street violence.

www.britannica.com

 

[ClaraD]

Here we go!!! Tons of name calling and poor language. What would I expect? Low-class behavior. More low-brow grammatical errors. Can you speak with elegance or are you uneducated?

Do you actually believe Trump is Hitler?

there is a reason that Nazis voted for him.

 

[Corbell]

They are considered a white nationalist group by SPLC and are regarded as such by others. If you are unhappy about that, you should spend your energy trying to correct the info with those groups.
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no, I think it is more reasonable to simply downgrade their credibility, since they are so obviously doing what you just did, ie try to dishonestly inflate teh numbers of white supremacists by counting groups that are painfully obviously NOT part of that.

 

[ClaraD]

I've heard no maga saying that.

I've heard lefties saying that maga says it.


Hence, my point, that these people are takign their cues, not from maga, but from mainstream lefty fake news.

They are your children, not ours.

because you have ear plugs in and blinders on...I wouldn't be surprised if you are the one saying it as well..after all we know what you think about women.

 

[Felis Leo]

Demonstrators with Nazi flags appear outside performance of 'The Diary of Anne Frank'​

A group of demonstrators carrying Nazi flags appeared Saturday night outside a community theater performance of the "The Diary of Anne Frank" at an American Legion post in Livingston County.

Bobby Brite, past commander of the American Legion Devereaux Post 141, recorded video of the demonstrators who, he said, were present outside the Howell Township venue for about 30 minutes while the play, which documents the experiences of a young Jewish girl and her family during the Holocaust, was ongoing.
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A statement from the theater group on Monday said its "The Diary of Anne Frank" production centered on "real people who lost their lives in the Holocaust." The cast and crew "endeavored to tell their story with as much realism as possible," the statement said.

"On Saturday evening, things became more real than we expected," the theater group's statement said. "The presence of protesters outside gave us a small glimpse of the fear and uncertainty felt by those in hiding."

“There was a group of people at the four-way intersection in downtown that had swastika flags and American flags,” Sutfill said. “They were sticking their arms up and yelling, ‘Hail Hitler’ and ‘Hail Trump’ and everything like that.”
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This is utterly disgusting — especially at an American Legion Post. My father fought the Nazis in WWII and I’d never thought that we would have to fight them here. But they have been emboldened.

Are these the "Blood Tribe" Neo-Nazis? They are basically like the Nazi Westboro Baptist Church. There are only a few dozen of them at most, but they travel practically anywhere and everywhere they can to get attention.

 

[Argent]

no, I think it is more reasonable to simply downgrade their credibility, since they are so obviously doing what you just did, ie try to dishonestly inflate teh numbers of white supremacists by counting groups that are painfully obviously NOT part of that.

Show me where I inflated the numbers as opposed to providing links.

By the way, you have consistently said antifa were the demonstrators in the OP article and haven't yet (unless I missed it) given any proof why you think so. I mean it's not like false rumors about them haven't been spread before.

41 Cities, Many Sources: How False Antifa Rumors Spread Locally (Published 2020)

Claims about the involvement of anti-fascist activists in protests of racism show the many ways false information spreads inside communities online.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Bodi]

I see a lot of hypocrites here who latch on and get their panties twisted over a handful of nazi flag-waving idiots............................

.....................and yet, are incredibly blind to the large crowds, vandalizing and calling for their death!




I mean........you gotta wonder how they think.

Do you condemn the Nazis?

 

[Bodi]

I was trying to take the middle ground because, I think it was you, said that the guys walking around with Nazi flags shouting Heil Hitler might not be actual Nazis. But even this you try to twist. Amazing.

You think that Guys carrying Nazi flags shouting Heil Hitler to disrupt a Jewish performance that discusses how they were slaughtered during the Holocaust is what... Freedom of Speech? Are those the "rights" that you are talking about?

@Corbell

 

[Michael Cole]

no, I think it is more reasonable to simply downgrade their credibility, since they are so obviously doing what you just did, ie try to dishonestly inflate teh numbers of white supremacists by counting groups that are painfully obviously NOT part of that.

Teh

 

[Minerva]

You think that acutal nazis are good judges of people and events? YOu really take your cues from them?


That's an odd thing for you to admitt.

Where in my statement do I give the Neo Nazis any credit for good sense?

But you can use Nazis as a litmus test of sorts...

Huge numbers of our population believe in a complete alternate reality. Alternate facts as it were. But just as intensely as I believe they are deluded, they think I am the one who is deluded. Maybe I am. So how can I be confident in my perception? It can be quite difficult. But, I have found that in times of political confusion, particularly when emotions are running high and creating tunnel vision, the presence of Nazis can be an extremely helpful indicator.

If I am attending a local demonstration or event and I see Nazis…neo-Nazis, casual Nazis, master race Nazis, or the latest-whatever-uber-mythology-Nazis, I figure out which side they are on.
And if they are on my side of the demonstration? I am on the wrong side.

It is tough to argue moral equivalence when I am standing next to a Nazi. Look to my right. Is there a guy wearing a 6MWE (6 million wasn’t enough) t-shirt? I am on the wrong side. Look to my left. If that guy is wearing a Camp Auschwitz t-shirt? Wrong side. Are Speakers being applauded for referring to things that Hitler got right? Wrong side. Team-spirit face paint and hat with animal horns? This is actually an unclear indicator that could mean anything, but safest to keep my distance from that guy anyway, even at a football game. However I can always, always, ALWAYS rely on the presence of Nazis as a guiding light through a fog of disinformation.

Some things are relative, and politics can absolutely have its opposing sides and grey areas. But evil and good are absolute. As are the lessons of history. So, just look for the Nazis, and make your own decisions.

 

[Corbell]

because you have ear plugs in and blinders on...I wouldn't be surprised if you are the one saying it as well..after all we know what you think about women.

Nope. That is a negative spin view of what we on the right are about. This is your narrative being supported, not ours.

That is my point. Would you like to address my point, or just spam some more negs?

 

[Corbell]

Show me where I inflated the numbers as opposed to providing links.
...

Already did. YOur pretense that you don't know what I am talkign about, is just more dishonesty.

 

[ClaraD]

Nope. That is a negative spin view of what we on the right are about. This is your narrative being supported, not ours.

That is my point. Would you like to address my point, or just spam some more negs?

You aren't ****ing right about it...letting women die is not the ****ing right thing to do...telling a woman that you can do whatever the **** you want to her is not the ****ing right thing to do. A woman just sent divorce papers to her husband over this bullshit...and Jesse Watters own mother told him not to come to Thanksgiving...

 

[Corbell]

Where in my statement do I give the Neo Nazis any credit for good sense?

B....

Where you want to use their judgment on people or events to base your take on it.


I mean a nazi might think that say... supporting the war in the ukraine is a good thing becasue.... he wants to bankrupt the us federal government and cause the ZOG to collapse or something.

HE might thus support a pro-ukriane war politician to support the fall of the US government.


And you would look at that situation, and consdier that the logic of the nazis and their views, is something you would take seriously and take your cues from.

That's not good.


IMO, l think nazis are very much disconnected from reality. I think that their words have very little of value to offer me or anyone really. I base my views on people adn events based on MY worldview, not the world view of nazis.

 

[Corbell]

You aren't ****ing right about it...letting women die is not the ****ing right thing to do...telling a woman that you can do whatever the **** you want to her is not the ****ing right thing to do. A woman just sent divorce papers to her husband over this bullshit...and Jesse Watters own mother told him not to come to Thanksgiving...

Yeah, I'm not talking about the issues themselves, per say but their terminology they are using and what it says about what sources they follow,


and thus what that says about who they actually are.


You know that is my point, because I have made it over and over again.


you, being a lefty, choose to ignore my actual point and just rave and spam negs.


The terminology being used, is all from YOUR side of the aisle. This looks like YOUR narrative being pushed.

That is my point. Would you like to address it now, or would you like to pretend to not get it some more?

 

[ClaraD]

Yeah, I'm not talking about the issues themselves, per say but their terminology they are using and what it says about what sources they follow,


and thus what that says about who they actually are.


You know that is my point, because I have made it over and over again.


you, being a lefty, choose to ignore my actual point and just rave and spam negs.


The terminology being used, is all from YOUR side of the aisle. This looks like YOUR narrative being pushed.

That is my point. Would you like to address it now, or would you like to pretend to not get it some more?

I don't have a ****ing side. My side is the middle...Your side is fascism

 

[Corbell]

I don't have a ****ing side. My side is the middle...Your side is fascism

And you avoided addressing my point again.


It's a simple point. Clearly made. But you are afraid of it. Becuase it is well thought out and well constructed and well defended.

You got nothing in your tool box to push back against it. You tried playing like you didn't get it, and I called you out on how silly that was and just reposted my point.


The terminology these losers used, indicates that they are lefties, who follow lefties sites.

This is your children, your side, not me, not maga.

 

[ClaraD]

And you avoided addressing my point again.


It's a simple point. Clearly made. But you are afraid of it. Becuase it is well thought out and well constructed and well defended.

You got nothing in your tool box to push back against it. You tried playing like you didn't get it, and I called you out on how silly that was and just reposted my point.


The terminology these losers used, indicates that they are lefties, who follow lefties sites.

This is your children, your side, not me, not maga.

Nazi sympathizers don't have a point...their point is the wrong one.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yeah, I'm not talking about the issues themselves, per say but their terminology they are using and what it says about what sources they follow,


and thus what that says about who they actually are.


You know that is my point, because I have made it over and over again.


you, being a lefty, choose to ignore my actual point and just rave and spam negs.


The terminology being used, is all from YOUR side of the aisle. This looks like YOUR narrative being pushed.

That is my point. Would you like to address it now, or would you like to pretend to not get it some more?

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[Corbell]

What in the world are you talking about?

Their behavior seems based more on the lefty negative spin of maga, then the actual view of maga.

That, and their appearence, leads me to think that these are antifa partisans, playing at being nazis, to support the lefty narrative that a Trump win, is a "nazi win".

 

[NolanVoyd]

Their behavior seems based more on the lefty negative spin of maga, then the actual view of maga.

That, and their appearence, leads me to think that these are antifa partisans, playing at being nazis, to support the lefty narrative that a Trump win, is a "nazi win".

What in the world are you talking about?