AmericanPatriot29
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AmericanPatriot29 said:I just don't understand it. How can someone support liberalism? It is the definition of lunacy and defies all common sense. It really is some type of a disorder. I see how liberal the world is becoming and I just get depressed and hope I wont live to see how bad it will get. So why are you liberal? What makes you liberal? What is the indoctrination of the media, schools, and hollywood? Was it a specific event? Is it because you dont have a grasp of history? What?
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Iriemon said:Depends on the color of your shades. Personally,
I used to think I was conservative at least partly; I don't think I've changed but consider myself a liberal now.
I am a liberal because:
I believe in the rule of law.
I think that the Govt should not borrow from our future but tax before it spends or cut spending before it cuts taxes.
I believe in the Constitution, and concepts like innocent until proven guilty and due process and the right of an accussed to a trial.
I disapprove of our Govt torturing people and locking people away indefinitely without due process.
I believe that the government has some obligation to provide for regulation and basic welfare to protect against the abuses of laizze-faire capitalism.
I believe that clean air and water are just as important as corporate profits.
I think the wealthy, who have by their hard work have been able to take advantage of the opportunities given to them by this country, should pay a greater share of the tax burden than folks struggling to make ends meet.
I believe the US, as a founding nation of modern democracy and human rights, should set an example for the international community and be a shining beacon on the hill.
I believe that the US should be a good international citizen and therefore not throw its weight around like a bully because we happen to have the most powerful armed forces.
I am against the concentration of corporate power and wealth into fewer and fewer hands.
I believe in individual liberty and with it privacy -- even at the cost of some greater risk to security, because freedom isn't free.
I believe that folks who receive a large inheritance should have to pay taxes on that income just like folks who work for a living have to pay taxes on their income.
I believe in the right of families to make their own decisions, not the government, which is why I support abortion, at least early in the pregnancy. I am against the government dictating family decisions to my family.
I believe a strong publicly available educational system that provides the opportunity for an education for all, even those without wealth, is an important element of a democracy.
Just some of the things off the top of my head.
To the basement we will go. To the basement we will go. Hie ho the dairy-o to the basement we will go.
Kelzie said:[mod mode]
To the basement we will go. To the basement we will go. Hie ho the dairy-o to the basement we will go.
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Just curious. What exactly sent this downstairs?Kelzie said:[mod mode]
To the basement we will go. To the basement we will go. Hie ho the dairy-o to the basement we will go.
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1. I beleive in the US Constitution.
2. The rest is bulsh/t.
KCConservative said:Just curious. What exactly sent this downstairs?
Kelzie said:Actually it was the OP. Anything that starts with "It is the definition of lunacy and defies all common sense. It really is some type of a disorder. I see how liberal the world is becoming and I just get depressed and hope I wont live to see how bad it will get." is created to **** people off. Not to debate. And we move those threads to the basement.
Iriemon said:Depends on the color of your shades. Personally,
I used to think I was conservative at least partly; I don't think I've changed but consider myself a liberal now.
I am a liberal because:
I believe in the rule of law.
I think that the Govt should not borrow from our future but tax before it spends or cut spending before it cuts taxes.
I believe in the Constitution, and concepts like innocent until proven guilty and due process and the right of an accussed to a trial.
I disapprove of our Govt torturing people and locking people away indefinitely without due process.
I believe that the government has some obligation to provide for regulation and basic welfare to protect against the abuses of laizze-faire capitalism.
I believe that clean air and water are just as important as corporate profits.
I think the wealthy, who have by their hard work have been able to take advantage of the opportunities given to them by this country, should pay a greater share of the tax burden than folks struggling to make ends meet.
I believe the US, as a founding nation of modern democracy and human rights, should set an example for the international community and be a shining beacon on the hill.
I believe that the US should be a good international citizen and therefore not throw its weight around like a bully because we happen to have the most powerful armed forces.
I am against the concentration of corporate power and wealth into fewer and fewer hands.
I believe in individual liberty and with it privacy -- even at the cost of some greater risk to security, because freedom isn't free.
I believe that folks who receive a large inheritance should have to pay taxes on that income just like folks who work for a living have to pay taxes on their income.
I believe in the right of families to make their own decisions, not the government, which is why I support abortion, at least early in the pregnancy. I am against the government dictating family decisions to my family.
I believe a strong publicly available educational system that provides the opportunity for an education for all, even those without wealth, is an important element of a democracy.
Just some of the things off the top of my head.
talloulou said:Do you think if Kerry were elected you'd have similar complaints and become a conservative again? From what I can tell he wouldn't have greatly changed the direction we were going especially as it applies to many of your complaints.
Iriemon said:It is speculation to guess what Kerry would have done.
Kelzie said:Actually it was the OP. Anything that starts with "It is the definition of lunacy and defies all common sense. It really is some type of a disorder. I see how liberal the world is becoming and I just get depressed and hope I wont live to see how bad it will get." is created to **** people off. Not to debate. And we move those threads to the basement.
Thanks aps and kelzie. I was just wondering if it was the profanity or something else.aps said:You go girl! I guess when your party is doing the attacking, it's hard to see the negativity in the initial post (re: KC's question to you). To me, this was unquestionably basement material.
KCConservative said:Thanks aps and kelzie. I was just wondering if it was the profanity or something else.
Did someone mention attacking liberals? Or did someone mention why they chose liberalism? If you're stymied for answers, or need an expert on the makings of a liberal...then I'm your man.
Ivan The Terrible said:ptsdkid,
Please offer your wisdom on this matter. Why would any American choose to be liberal?
ptsdkid said:...
Btw, wouldn't it be nice to see what a liberal has to say about their liberalism?
ptsdkid said:***Glad you asked. I'll be more than happy to give you reasons why I suspect people chose liberalism over Americanism. But for now, I'm in the middle of a heated poker game at Party Poker...so I'll get back to you later. Btw, wouldn't it be nice to see what a liberal has to say about their liberalism?
teacher said:I would like to take this opportunity to go off topic and say that you, ptsdkid, are a dick.
teacher said:I would like to take this opportunity to go off topic and say that you, ptsdkid, are a dick.
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