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Democrats, how are we going to fix our courts?

Craig234

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McConnell's most proud of his court packing. He unethically denied Obama judges, and is now rushing through corrupt plutocrat Fenderalist Society judges. His twitter is headed by bragging that 1/4 of all circuit judges now are appointed by trump. He brags that he has 'flipped' three circuits - forgot that 'impartial judges' idea, he refers to them like political seats.

This is flying below people's radar because they haven't yet felt the impact from these lifetime appointments, who have a whole agenda ahead of them to pass to destroy our constitution and prevent the people from having more more than they already have. We need to think about to fix this.

FDR had a war on his hands for the same reason, his agenda stopped in its tracks.

As much as we look at corrupt votes by the Senate under trump, there are decades of corrupt court decisions coming that will likely become our nations' biggest political problem. Their goal, I suspect, is to change the system so it doesn't matter who the people elect; the first step has been determining who is elected, to get the judges appointed to do more against the constitution and the people.

Just as simple rulings make changes that allow money to own our system, dark money or otherwise, with the protection of constitutional rights immune to any laws the public passes, further rulings can cripple the very power of government to have any check on the private powers who are running our society.

There's a reason McConnell is so judge-obsessed as nearly the only thing he cares about. Just as Republicans gamed the system by targeting statehouses in 2010 for the census to Gerrymander, they are setting up a gaming of the constitution itself now.

There are limited fixes. These are lifetime appointments. Every fix is impractical: changing that, impeaching them, expanding the courts greatly. We seem to have few options.

It's not a burning political issue now. It should be. Of course in the meantime, it's one more critical reason it's needed to defeat trump. Court 'packing' might be the best option; it's controversial, but McConnell's radical gaming of the system is justification.
 
McConnell's most proud of his court packing. He unethically denied Obama judges, and is now rushing through corrupt plutocrat Fenderalist Society judges. His twitter is headed by bragging that 1/4 of all circuit judges now are appointed by trump. He brags that he has 'flipped' three circuits - forgot that 'impartial judges' idea, he refers to them like political seats.

This is flying below people's radar because they haven't yet felt the impact from these lifetime appointments, who have a whole agenda ahead of them to pass to destroy our constitution and prevent the people from having more more than they already have. We need to think about to fix this.

FDR had a war on his hands for the same reason, his agenda stopped in its tracks.

As much as we look at corrupt votes by the Senate under trump, there are decades of corrupt court decisions coming that will likely become our nations' biggest political problem. Their goal, I suspect, is to change the system so it doesn't matter who the people elect; the first step has been determining who is elected, to get the judges appointed to do more against the constitution and the people.

Just as simple rulings make changes that allow money to own our system, dark money or otherwise, with the protection of constitutional rights immune to any laws the public passes, further rulings can cripple the very power of government to have any check on the private powers who are running our society.

There's a reason McConnell is so judge-obsessed as nearly the only thing he cares about. Just as Republicans gamed the system by targeting statehouses in 2010 for the census to Gerrymander, they are setting up a gaming of the constitution itself now.

There are limited fixes. These are lifetime appointments. Every fix is impractical: changing that, impeaching them, expanding the courts greatly. We seem to have few options.

It's not a burning political issue now. It should be. Of course in the meantime, it's one more critical reason it's needed to defeat trump. Court 'packing' might be the best option; it's controversial, but McConnell's radical gaming of the system is justification.

Hmm... you start by saying how bad court packing is when done by republicants and then conclude that court packing would be good when done by demorats. Not a partisan bone in your body. ;)
 
Hmm... you start by saying how bad court packing is when done by republicants and then conclude that court packing would be good when done by demorats. Not a partisan bone in your body. ;)

Well, it’s not partisan to acknowledge that Republicans are fully corrupt, don’t play by any rules, and so without rules the Republicans must be met with equal or greater force. Unilaterally disarming for the moral high ground is MADNESS. The second Democrats are in a position they should cement their victory by steamrolling whatever they can to mitigate any gains Republicans achieved under Trump.

Any precedent McConnell and the Republicans have set should be amplified and turned against them. I fully support that. There is no alternative.
 
McConnell's most proud of his court packing. He unethically denied Obama judges, and is now rushing through corrupt plutocrat Fenderalist Society judges. His twitter is headed by bragging that 1/4 of all circuit judges now are appointed by trump. He brags that he has 'flipped' three circuits - forgot that 'impartial judges' idea, he refers to them like political seats.

This is flying below people's radar because they haven't yet felt the impact from these lifetime appointments, who have a whole agenda ahead of them to pass to destroy our constitution and prevent the people from having more more than they already have. We need to think about to fix this.

FDR had a war on his hands for the same reason, his agenda stopped in its tracks.

As much as we look at corrupt votes by the Senate under trump, there are decades of corrupt court decisions coming that will likely become our nations' biggest political problem. Their goal, I suspect, is to change the system so it doesn't matter who the people elect; the first step has been determining who is elected, to get the judges appointed to do more against the constitution and the people.

Just as simple rulings make changes that allow money to own our system, dark money or otherwise, with the protection of constitutional rights immune to any laws the public passes, further rulings can cripple the very power of government to have any check on the private powers who are running our society.

There's a reason McConnell is so judge-obsessed as nearly the only thing he cares about. Just as Republicans gamed the system by targeting statehouses in 2010 for the census to Gerrymander, they are setting up a gaming of the constitution itself now.

There are limited fixes. These are lifetime appointments. Every fix is impractical: changing that, impeaching them, expanding the courts greatly. We seem to have few options.

It's not a burning political issue now. It should be. Of course in the meantime, it's one more critical reason it's needed to defeat trump. Court 'packing' might be the best option; it's controversial, but McConnell's radical gaming of the system is justification.

There is no reason to try to stop Trump from appointing non-biased good judges just because democrats favor biased bad judges.
 
McConnell's most proud of his court packing. He unethically denied Obama judges, and is now rushing through corrupt plutocrat Fenderalist Society judges. His twitter is headed by bragging that 1/4 of all circuit judges now are appointed by trump. He brags that he has 'flipped' three circuits - forgot that 'impartial judges' idea, he refers to them like political seats.

This is flying below people's radar because they haven't yet felt the impact from these lifetime appointments, who have a whole agenda ahead of them to pass to destroy our constitution and prevent the people from having more more than they already have. We need to think about to fix this.

FDR had a war on his hands for the same reason, his agenda stopped in its tracks.

As much as we look at corrupt votes by the Senate under trump, there are decades of corrupt court decisions coming that will likely become our nations' biggest political problem. Their goal, I suspect, is to change the system so it doesn't matter who the people elect; the first step has been determining who is elected, to get the judges appointed to do more against the constitution and the people.

Just as simple rulings make changes that allow money to own our system, dark money or otherwise, with the protection of constitutional rights immune to any laws the public passes, further rulings can cripple the very power of government to have any check on the private powers who are running our society.

There's a reason McConnell is so judge-obsessed as nearly the only thing he cares about. Just as Republicans gamed the system by targeting statehouses in 2010 for the census to Gerrymander, they are setting up a gaming of the constitution itself now.

There are limited fixes. These are lifetime appointments. Every fix is impractical: changing that, impeaching them, expanding the courts greatly. We seem to have few options.

It's not a burning political issue now. It should be. Of course in the meantime, it's one more critical reason it's needed to defeat trump. Court 'packing' might be the best option; it's controversial, but McConnell's radical gaming of the system is justification.

Don't worry, the Dem will one day regain power of the Prez and it will be their turn to pack the judges
 
McConnell's most proud of his court packing. He unethically denied Obama judges, and is now rushing through corrupt plutocrat Fenderalist Society judges. His twitter is headed by bragging that 1/4 of all circuit judges now are appointed by trump. He brags that he has 'flipped' three circuits - forgot that 'impartial judges' idea, he refers to them like political seats.

This is flying below people's radar because they haven't yet felt the impact from these lifetime appointments, who have a whole agenda ahead of them to pass to destroy our constitution and prevent the people from having more more than they already have. We need to think about to fix this.

FDR had a war on his hands for the same reason, his agenda stopped in its tracks.

As much as we look at corrupt votes by the Senate under trump, there are decades of corrupt court decisions coming that will likely become our nations' biggest political problem. Their goal, I suspect, is to change the system so it doesn't matter who the people elect; the first step has been determining who is elected, to get the judges appointed to do more against the constitution and the people.

Just as simple rulings make changes that allow money to own our system, dark money or otherwise, with the protection of constitutional rights immune to any laws the public passes, further rulings can cripple the very power of government to have any check on the private powers who are running our society.

There's a reason McConnell is so judge-obsessed as nearly the only thing he cares about. Just as Republicans gamed the system by targeting statehouses in 2010 for the census to Gerrymander, they are setting up a gaming of the constitution itself now.

There are limited fixes. These are lifetime appointments. Every fix is impractical: changing that, impeaching them, expanding the courts greatly. We seem to have few options.

It's not a burning political issue now. It should be. Of course in the meantime, it's one more critical reason it's needed to defeat trump. Court 'packing' might be the best option; it's controversial, but McConnell's radical gaming of the system is justification.

How? Simple; don't allow politicians to appoint judges regarded as sympathetic to their own political agendas. Judges are supposed to be non-partisan, unbiased and apolitical, and not political poodles who perform as instructed by their masters.

This is how we do it:

Courts and Tribunals Judiciary | Judicial appointments

Appointments of Justices - The Supreme Court
 
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McConnell's most proud of his court packing. He unethically denied Obama judges, and is now rushing through corrupt plutocrat Fenderalist Society judges. His twitter is headed by bragging that 1/4 of all circuit judges now are appointed by trump. He brags that he has 'flipped' three circuits - forgot that 'impartial judges' idea, he refers to them like political seats.

This is flying below people's radar because they haven't yet felt the impact from these lifetime appointments, who have a whole agenda ahead of them to pass to destroy our constitution and prevent the people from having more more than they already have. We need to think about to fix this.

FDR had a war on his hands for the same reason, his agenda stopped in its tracks.

As much as we look at corrupt votes by the Senate under trump, there are decades of corrupt court decisions coming that will likely become our nations' biggest political problem. Their goal, I suspect, is to change the system so it doesn't matter who the people elect; the first step has been determining who is elected, to get the judges appointed to do more against the constitution and the people.

Just as simple rulings make changes that allow money to own our system, dark money or otherwise, with the protection of constitutional rights immune to any laws the public passes, further rulings can cripple the very power of government to have any check on the private powers who are running our society.

There's a reason McConnell is so judge-obsessed as nearly the only thing he cares about. Just as Republicans gamed the system by targeting statehouses in 2010 for the census to Gerrymander, they are setting up a gaming of the constitution itself now.

There are limited fixes. These are lifetime appointments. Every fix is impractical: changing that, impeaching them, expanding the courts greatly. We seem to have few options.

It's not a burning political issue now. It should be. Of course in the meantime, it's one more critical reason it's needed to defeat trump. Court 'packing' might be the best option; it's controversial, but McConnell's radical gaming of the system is justification.

I am most concerned about the Judgeships that have been offered to flat out idiots that do not belong an any Bench. A number of those have passed the GOP Senate unfortunately. This is yet another example of the GOP totally abdicating its responsibility.

As for the Judges that based on standing in the legal community are at least deserving in that regard, I will repeat something here I have said before. You really cannot depend on how a Judge will rule over the course of his career. You just can't and DonDon or McConnell acting like they know how a Judge will rule does not make it so. They have lifetime tenure and owe nothing to the people that put them on the Bench. The legal standards of jurisprudence by which they offer judgement tends not to change over time. But that has nothing to do with ideology. All by way of saying, I am at this point not convinced that recently named Judges that actually have the legal standing to be on the Bench will simply offer adjudication based on some ideological perspective steadfastly over time. In fact I have seen more Judges offer rulings that are unexpected than Judges that simply appear to plow their noses into the same ruts year after year.

My major concern with the SC is twofold:
1) Do they have another judgement in them as "can't see the forest for the trees" idiotic as Citizens United
2) I have never agreed with the SC approach to the Legislature's willingness to simply toss its Legislative responsibility over the fence to the Executive

What right does any individual Congress have in abdicating its responsibility in that manner? The Legislature as defined in the Constitution is bigger than any individual Congress. Yet the SC's position has been that if a particular Congress sees itself as able to simply toss the Constitution on its ear by writing specific Legislation that is entirely contrary to and destructive to its Article 1 powers, well that is just fine by the SC.

There is no body, not the body politic, not the Chief Executive that is going to hold a particular Congress responsible for that nonsense. Yet nobody even brings this crap to the Court because everybody knows the Court won't take the case. The Body Politic is really the body politic of the States and there is simply no National effort that can be cobbled from the States to confront it. The Chief Executive is just going to take all the power the Legislature is willing to give it. You will not see any complaint from the Chief Executive. That leaves the Court which simply remains stoically silent on the issue even in the face of the obvious issues caused by Congress after Congress abdicating its responsibility to Legislature as it is defined in the Constitution.
 
Don't worry, the Dem will one day regain power of the Prez and it will be their turn to pack the judges

That's not entirely true. Many judges have been confirmed that are not remotely qualified. The only prerequisite is that they are hard right. That's all that matters.
 
You really cannot depend on how a Judge will rule over the course of his career.

Your comment is about the historic norms - when Eisenhower or Nixon appointed a judge, he did what he wanted. That's why the modern model of the Federalist Society creating an army of dedicated libertarian ideologues is so dangerous. These are not 'normal' judges like those, they have been indoctrinated to support a war on the constitution. It's an army. Look at the predictable 5-4 Supreme Court rulings.
 
How? Simple; don't allow politicians to appoint judges regarded as sympathetic to their own political agendas. Judges are supposed to be non-partisan, unbiased and apolitical, and not political poodles who perform as instructed by their masters.

This is how we do it:

Courts and Tribunals Judiciary | Judicial appointments

Appointments of Justices - The Supreme Court

That's a nice idea for reform, but would take either a constitutional amendment or presidents giving up their power there is almost no chance of.
 
The very short answer is to win the Senate. I understand that McConnell has pushed through several people that are inexperienced, or even deemed not qualified by the ABA, to lifetime appointments. They are mostly young and will help defend the wealthiest Americans well into the future. It will definitely be a roadblock, but as McConnell has shown us the Senate is what matters.
 
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