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democrats hate middle americans and small business

Moonglow said:
There was also a 1.5 trillion dollar loan program also, yet is was not as much of a giveaway socialist program okayed by Congress you like.
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What loan program are you talking about?

Facts, please.
 
Nap said:
You would have a point if it wasn't the government ordering many of these businesses to shutdown.
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So what happened to all of their money? Most have only been shut down for a few weeks. In the greatest economy in the history of the world, and after receiving the most beautiful tax cut ever that enabled them to keep more of their money, they all ran out of money after only 3 weeks?
 
ludin said:
why do you opposed 260b for small businesses? that is all that is in the bill?
yet again we see that democrats oppose helping working people and small businesses
thanks for confirming it.

that is a separate bill that has nothing to do with helping small businesses which is what this is for.
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Pelosi is working with the Treasury Secretary that is her Job, and there will be more funds for small businesses this week. Stop whining.
 
Moonglow said:
Yes, the banks also wanted changes...How can you claim the Dems hate so and so when over six trillion has been thrown at the problem already?
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It must be because they love spending other people's money that or they just enjoy whining, it is what snowflakes do.
 
Casper said:
Pelosi is working with the Treasury Secretary that is her Job, and there will be more funds for small businesses this week. Stop whining.
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no she isn't she is at her house eating fancy gourmet ice cream.
it should have been passed last week.

Pelosi isn't even in washington to pass it.
 
tres borrachos said:
So what happened to all of their money? Most have only been shut down for a few weeks. In the greatest economy in the history of the world, and after receiving the most beautiful tax cut ever that enabled them to keep more of their money, they all ran out of money after only 3 weeks?
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Most businesses, especially smaller ones, tend to run on thin profit margins in order to compete.
 
Nap said:
Most businesses, especially smaller ones, tend to run on thin profit margins in order to compete.
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After only a couple of weeks, in this, the greatest economy ever for small businesses? Can't be possible.

But they want taxpayer money, forgivable taxpayer money, to pay their bills. And the financial institutions are getting many many millions of dollars in taxpayer money to push the loans through eTran.
 
ludin said:
no she isn't she is at her house eating fancy gourmet ice cream.
it should have been passed last week.

Pelosi isn't even in washington to pass it.
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When deal is done she will be there to sign off.
Are you just whining to whine or do you think whining about her will take some heat off the pass the buck guy in the WH?
 
Mycroft said:
Oh...the Federal Reserve. Okay.

Actually, the Fed is doing much more than that "loan injection". Like $4-6 trillion worth.

Make no mistake, though, that does very little for Main Street (middle Americans and small business) and a LOT for Wall Street (multinational global companies and wall street investors).
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The loan program that they want to refill had min. loan value of one million which is more than what many companies wanted so that issue and several others are being hashed out, by smoking the hash..
 
Mycroft said:
Never let a good crisis go to waste.

All the President wanted was more money for the PPP before it ran out completely. Schumer deep-sixed the bill. Then they all went home for a month.

PPP is now out of money, small businesses can't get anymore loans and their employees are forced to go on unemployment.

Thanks for nothing, Dems.
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Well if the "small businesses" like Shake Shack, Potbelly, Taco Cabana and Ruth Chris's steakhouse can't get help, we are all doomed...

Big companies get millions as Tennessee small businesses are left out by loan program | WZTV


I will admit, this seems like a typical Trump deal...
 
We would not need these bail outs if Trump had listened to experts in Jan. America knows who to blame in Nov.
 
Moonglow said:
The loan program that they want to refill had min. loan value of one million which is more than what many companies wanted so that issue and several others are being hashed out, by smoking the hash..
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I think you are going to have to provide facts to back up this statement. I've seen NOTHING that establishes a minimum loan amount.

Tell you what...here's the information sheet from Treasury. Find a minimum loan amount in there...if you can.
 
ludin said:
no she isn't she is at her house eating fancy gourmet ice cream.
it should have been passed last week.

Pelosi isn't even in washington to pass it.
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And you are basing this off what Trump said at a press conference.....you know he has an election coming up right. The egotistical maniac will stop at nothing to prop himself up.

Even so video conferencing, phone calls and emails can still be made from around the country. We are not in the 1930s where someone has to be at a certain place to conduct something, technology no longer requires it.
 
BlueTex said:
Well if the "small businesses" like Shake Shack, Potbelly, Taco Cabana and Ruth Chris's steakhouse can't get help, we are all doomed...

Big companies get millions as Tennessee small businesses are left out by loan program | WZTV


I will admit, this seems like a typical Trump deal...
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Congress wrote the bill. Talk to them if you have a problem with Shake Shack getting a loan.

But you can rest assured that, thanks to Nancy and her fellow Dem pukes, my local mom and pop diner, with their 10 employees, can't get help, either. And yes...mom and pop are doomed.
 
Mycroft said:
The money should never had run out. Trump asked for more money BEFORE the PPP ran out of money. More could have easily been appropriated, but like I said...never let a good crisis go to waste. The Dems don't mind letting people suffer if they can get something out of it.

And yes...this is the same thing the Dems did before allowing CARES to be passed. They delayed it so they could get something totally unrelated passed along with it.

The Dems are the definition of using a crisis for their own political advantage.
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If we go by the logic of you and others like you, this should kill any chance of dems winning the white house, the senate and the house. No?

Since when does the gop care about the average person? Like never. They sure have their base fooled, that's you mycroft.
 
yankintx said:
We would not need these bail outs if Trump had listened to experts in Jan. America knows who to blame in Nov.
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Nonsense.

If the governors had listened to the experts back in Jan, unemployment would be much higher than it is now and we would have needed this money...you guessed it...back in January.

(You DO know that it was the governors who put people out of work, right? It wasn't Trump.)
 
Mycroft said:
Congress wrote the bill. Talk to them if you have a problem with Shake Shack getting a loan.

But you can rest assured that, thanks to Nancy and her fellow Dem pukes, my local mom and pop diner, with their 10 employees, can't get help, either. And yes...mom and pop are doomed.
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The party of responsibility...
 
Mycroft said:
Congress wrote the bill. Talk to them if you have a problem with Shake Shack getting a loan.

But you can rest assured that, thanks to Nancy and her fellow Dem pukes, my local mom and pop diner, with their 10 employees, can't get help, either. And yes...mom and pop are doomed.
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I don't think you can justify blaming just Nancy and the Democrats. Trump is President. Trump apparently has 'total authority'. Why are you not blaming him as well?
 
goldkam said:
I don't think you can justify blaming just Nancy and the Democrats. Trump is President. Trump apparently has 'total authority'. Why are you not blaming him as well?
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They must protect Trump at all costs. What his supporters fail to realize, Trump's second term is never going to happen.
 
bongsaway said:
If we go by the logic of you and others like you, this should kill any chance of dems winning the white house, the senate and the house. No?

Since when does the gop care about the average person? Like never. They sure have their base fooled, that's you mycroft.
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The Dems have their mainstream propaganda machine to help them win elections. But the fact is, Biden has no chance of winning the WH.

And right on cue...deflect to the GOP, who aren't the topic of this thread.

You are dismissed. (see my sig)
 
goldkam said:
I don't think you can justify blaming just Nancy and the Democrats. Trump is President. Trump apparently has 'total authority'. Why are you not blaming him as well?
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Trump has never had "total authority"...especially over Congress.

You should really not make **** up.
 
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