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Democrats gear up to fight gerrymandering after state House losses

Democrats should have fought a much tougher campaign for House districts, state assemblies, and governorships.

This is where Democrats are losing the long-view battles. We might see this again in Georgia on January 5.

Stop being nice and always taking the "high road" and do whatever it takes to start winning these down-ballot elections.
 
Clicker III said:
The Dems are now scrambling to invoke the "fairness" plea now that they've suffered losses in most arenas in this election season.

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Democrats gear up to fight gerrymandering after state House losses

Republicans said they plan to try to cement their power in the drawing of 30 state maps. Democrats control 19 legislatures.
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situation.

So are you admitting that districts are unfairly drawn to benefit one party?

The voters should choose their Representatives, not the other way around.
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Rogue Valley said:
Democrats should have fought a much tougher campaign for House districts, state assemblies, and governorships.

This is where Democrats are losing the long-view battles. We might see this again in Georgia on January 5.

Stop being nice and always taking the "high road" and do whatever it takes to start winning these down-ballot elections.
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Doug Jones had a good point of democrats not supporting districts, only candidates.
 
tacomancer said:
I expect this fight will be lost in the short term. Perhaps if the dems make gains in 2022, a federal law can be looked at.
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that will most likely ONLY happen if Trump actually manages to remain president. If Joe and Blow are installed into the white house, the GOP most likely will increase seats in both houses
 
They should just get a math nerd and a computer nerd and lock them in a room and tell them to generate districts as close to squares as possible.
 
TurtleDude said:
that will most likely ONLY happen if Trump actually manages to remain president. If Joe and Blow are installed into the white house, the GOP most likely will increase seats in both houses
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So basically you are saying an increase in GOP seats will happen.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Democrats should have fought a much tougher campaign for House districts, state assemblies, and governorships.

This is where Democrats are losing the long-view battles. We might see this again in Georgia on January 5.

Stop being nice and always taking the "high road" and do whatever it takes to start winning these down-ballot elections.
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Stacy Abrams is all over it already. She and others she worked with are really how Georgia may flip. Just relentlessly finding and registering new voters and getting them to the polls. If they can keep the energy up they might pull it off. Which would be so sweet.

And as much as I talk smack I really hope they don't go all tit for tat if we get the senate. That would be when to take the high road.

We gotta do something or we're gonna tear ourselves apart.
 
Clicker III said:
The Dems are now scrambling to invoke the "fairness" plea now that they've suffered losses in most arenas in this election season.

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Democrats gear up to fight gerrymandering after state House losses

Republicans said they plan to try to cement their power in the drawing of 30 state maps. Democrats control 19 legislatures.
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NOW! Now, they want to be fair. Just like now they want republicans to accept the outcome of the election. I say do it just like they did. Joe you are headed toward impeachment in 2023.
 
Ikari said:
They should just get a math nerd and a computer nerd and lock them in a room and tell them to generate districts as close to squares as possible.
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Exactly. I approve of all attempts to de-politicize things that shouldn't be politicized.

Like I would be down with packing the courts, but only if it was designed to remove them as political footballs AND was balanced with conservative justices to make the initial playing field as fair as possible.

Then if it moves one way or the other it will take time and more likely reflect the will of the people.
 
Integrityrespec said:
NOW! Now, they want to be fair. Just like now they want republicans to accept the outcome of the election. I say do it just like they did. Joe you are headed toward impeachment in 2023.
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I would advise considering how much people might enjoy the quiet and lack of grade school histrionics coming in ever increasing absurdity day after day, even as a pandemic ravages the country.

And that folks might be over the belligerance of McConnell. He almost certainly ****ed some of his partys 'voters with his blocking of a second stimulous. And they may take it out on their senators. Wouldn't take many.

And then there's the virus. We'll see how well biden's people handle it, but a steady and focused hand may be so refreshing after the chaos of trump's approach that y'all could lose voters completely.

They could still **** it up, don't get me wrong.
 
Ikari said:
They should just get a math nerd and a computer nerd and lock them in a room and tell them to generate districts as close to squares as possible.
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I would be very impressed if that could be pulled off.
 
Ikari said:
They should just get a math nerd and a computer nerd and lock them in a room and tell them to generate districts as close to squares as possible.
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A simpler algorithm would be to find the geographical center of the state and just make (sort of) triangles
 
Ikari said:
They should just get a math nerd and a computer nerd and lock them in a room and tell them to generate districts as close to squares as possible.
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That's been deemed racist. Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and Thornburg v. Gingles demands majority-minority districts be created to increase the number of minority Congressmen. It has been decided that even if the zoning is fair and impartial an undesirable outcome of not enough minority elected politicians is enough to be considered unconstitutional. Your proposal would decrease Democrat representation as well as minority representation in the House. The Congressional Black Caucus as well as other groups would lose much of their power under such a plan.
 
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I’d just take districting out of the hands of the parties, independent districting committees.
 
tacomancer said:
So basically you are saying an increase in GOP seats will happen.
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The mid-term elections after a presidential vote generally results in 25-30 seats lost by the party that took the White House. If that continues to hold true the Republican party will likely take a majority of the House in 2022.
 
GummyVitamins said:
The mid-term elections after a presidential vote generally results in 25-30 seats lost by the party that took the White House. If that continues to hold true the Republican party will likely take a majority of the House in 2022.
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Unlikely if voter turnout keeps as high as it has this year.
 
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