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OK, yet the US 'at large', and 'most of it', does not in favor more socialism which is 'largely', and 'mostly', why we don't have president Bernie Sanders.
Hell, everyone might be inclined to support socialism, up until the bill for it comes due.
What bill? When everyone works for the government then there is no longer need of taxation. The government decisions then become not how much of the yield from one's efforts do they get to keep, but how much does everyone (after taking very good care of the ruling elite, of course) get to share.
Yeah....all of Europe hates it. Lol
I'm going to take a punt and say you are being sarcastic. K?
Definition of socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Not at all. Why would you need taxes if everyone worked for the state?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
Yep, socialism works perfectly until it doesn't.
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-greece-debt-crisis-3305525
Except in all the places it works great'Cause money doesn't grow on trees?
TANSTAAFL.
It has proven through history itself as being economically unfeasible?
Take your pick.
How come our socialist military never runs out of other people's money?
#1: You're wrong:
Poll: Medicare-for-all, public option, Bernie Sanders plan has support - Business Insider
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/01/over-60-of-americans-back-tuition-free-college-survey-says.html
https://www.salon.com/2017/01/14/am...ers-economic-policies-so-howd-we-end-up-here/
Poll: Bernie Sanders country?s most popular active politician | TheHill
Do Americans Agree With Bernie Sanders? (INFOGRAPHIC)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
#2: Bernie Sanders was thwarted by his own initial obscurity (the dude literally started out at ~3% vs Clinton's ~60% or so among Democrats), and a skewed primary meticulously engineered to favour Hillary (while existing in an egregious state of conflict of interest with the DNC having been literally financially bailed out by her), along with, by and large, an unfriendly media. It's telling also that he was significantly more popular among the general population than in the Dem party. A loss is a loss, but don't tell me he isn't president because he himself or his ideas aren't popular among a preponderance of Americans.
See it's funny because yes, while countries like Greece exist, there are also countries like Germany and Norway that are much more financially solvent than the States in terms of metrics like Debt to GDP.
Hell many of these 'socialist' countries are even considered more economically free by blatantly right wing sources like the Heritage Foundation.
Except in all the places it works great
Yep, this heavily demorat district will very likely remain so. The move to openly oppose capitalism in favor of socialism, however, is very likely to remain a rare event in even solid blue districts.
Now that I think about it, whether she is a socialist or not she will vote however Pelosi tells her to. She reminds me of an beauty pageant contestant that says "I'm for world peach, want to end hunger and find a cure for cancer."
LOL. Right. We can see that in Venezuela.
All those who want to move the US to socialism should be required to live 2 years in a country where it exists, see if they really end up liking it.
No thanks. I'm happy to keep the regulated capitalistic system we have here in the US, and to make it better, remove more of the government market distortions, wherever possible and practical.
Extremes are never good examples.
This idea that a system focused on its people will automatically end up like Venezuela is a specious argument given the examples of other industrialized nations that do manage that kind of balance.
Capitalism run amok can be equally destructive as we've seen in our own history. I agree that well regulated capitalism is the happy compromise, but the level of regulation is what's often in question where some feel it's better to reap rewards now at the expense of the future.
Given the wealth generated in this country, I think there's room to push for more sustainable growth instead of risking our environment and financial well being for quick profits.
Just one observation: Socialism <> "a system focused on its people"
I think Socialism is more about growing the power of the state at the expense of freedoms of the people, most often through government forced wealth redistribution.
Other opinions differ.
That's going to be a real challenge when generations of business leaders and Wall Street are all so focused on quarter to quarter earnings. Taking companies private avoid this, but come with different costs in doing this.
Ideologies can be modified to fit what works for a specific country. Often people look at the extremes and the idea itself becomes tainted due to that. As an American, I like the idea of us contributing for the basic services which help us thrive and build the middle class we need to remain competitive. The current idea is those who rise in spite of adversity will be the cream of the crop, but the obstacles continue to increase and the wealth concentrated in the hands of a few.
Yep, but that's the challenge and it will take our smartest people to figure it out. Fighting amongst ourselves isn't what will help.
Norway is like Alaska, the entire county is living off of the oil wealth they have, so not a typical situation or a good comparison.
A similar situation this is Venezuela, also sitting on huge oil reserves, socialist, and rapidly failing. I think the next thing is going to happen there will be military totalitarianism / dictatorial state.
The world is still lining up buy US debt, a good thing too since congress can't seem to curb it's spending habit, as the US sovereign debt sucks the least of all other sovereign debt, and is still considered reliable and stable.
Contributing for basic services is already taking place in the US managed capitalistic system, as is a degree of wealth redistribution. The US had a thriving middle class up until the political elite went on a globalist binge, which drained the country of well paying middle class jobs. It appears that some of that is turned back, but we'll see how long that lasts and how deep that recovery.
The wealth concentration into the hands of the political elite is not only a pattern we see in the US system, it is also present in the Western Europe social democracies as well, and has been since the end of WW II.
Now that I think about it, whether she is a socialist or not she will vote however Pelosi tells her to. She reminds me of an beauty pageant contestant that says "I'm for world peach, want to end hunger and find a cure for cancer."
LOL. Right. We can see that in Venezuela.
All those who want to move the US to socialism should be required to live 2 years in a country where it exists, see if they really end up liking it.
No thanks. I'm happy to keep the regulated capitalistic system we have here in the US, and to make it better, remove more of the government market distortions, wherever possible and practical.
I'll believe it when the Dem party holds that exact same sway over Bernie's vote.
I don't see her being any less of a fire brand from what I've seen thus far. If she were nearly so compliant with the party establishment, people like Pelosi, and their media friends, wouldn't be trying to minimize and marginalize her win; establishment Dems wouldn't feel nearly so threatened by her success.
LOL. Right. We can see that in Venezuela.
All those who want to move the US to socialism should be required to live 2 years in a country where it exists, see if they really end up liking it.
No thanks. I'm happy to keep the regulated capitalistic system we have here in the US, and to make it better, remove more of the government market distortions, wherever possible and practical.
There's just one problem with all this bashing of socialism: Bolivia.
Since 2006, Bolivia has been run by socialists every bit as militant as Venezuela's. But as economist Omar Zambrano has argued, the country has experienced a spectacular run of economic growth and poverty reduction with no hint of the chaos that has plagued Venezuela. While inflation spirals toward the thousand-percent mark in Venezuela, in Bolivia it runs below 4 percent a year. Shortages of basic consumption goods — rampant in Caracas — are unheard of in La Paz. And extreme poverty — now growing fast in Venezuela — affects just 17 percent of Bolivians now, down from 38 percent before the socialists took over 10 years ago, even as inequality shrinks dramatically. The richest 10 percent in Bolivia used to earn 128 times more than the poorest 10 percent; today, they earn 38 times as much.
She will run her mouth and have no control over what votes are scheduled.
Venezuela's failure to diversify their economy, as well as personal corruption of officials, is not a condemnation of socialism, rather incompetent choices and unfortunate circumstance.
Next door socialist Bolivia is thriving:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ollapses-socialist-bolivia-thrives-heres-why/
There isn't anything innately wrong with socialism as you seem to think.
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Caracas Chronicles is a group blog focused on Venezuelan news and analysis in English. Founded in 2002 by Francisco Toro,[1] its focus is on Venezuelan politics and economics in the Chávez and post-Chávez era. The website describes itself as "opposition-leaning-but-not-insane,"[1] and, according to an Associated Press article, though highly critical of Venezuela's socialist government, the site "doesn't spare the opposition".[2]
Francisco Toro is the editor of Caracas Chronicles.[1] He was joined in 2006 by Juan Nagel, a Venezuelan economist and professor at the Universidad de los Andes in Santiago, Chile.[3] In 2014, Caracas Chronicles became a group blog with the addition of other writers.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracas_Chronicles
Bolivia owns a communications satellite which was offshored/outsourced and launched by Chinanamed Túpac Katari 1.[SUP][72][/SUP] In 2015, it was announced that electrical power advancements include a planned $300 million nuclear reactor developed by the Russian nuclear company Rosatom.[SUP][73][/SUP]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivia#Economy
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