Democrat presidential candidates patronize the gay community.

[Navy Pride]

Did anyone see the dems at the Human Rights Union patronizing the Gay community for their vote? How low and disgusting can you get........

I loved Richardsons answer when asked if being gay was a choice.........He said it was........He was the only honest one on the stage.........

 

[1069]

Kinda like the Republicans "patronize" the Fundamentalists.
Incumbents pandering to their voter bases: who ever heard of such a thing? :roll:
What's next?

 

[Cold Highway]

Did anyone see the dems at the Human Rights Union patronizing the Gay community for their vote? How low and disgusting can you get........

I loved Richardsons answer when asked if being gay was a choice.........He said it was........He was the only honest one on the stage.........

In other words talking to gay and lesbian rights groups is pandering but when talking to the Religious Right its considered talking to the people. :roll: Wow homosexuals want the same rights as everyone else what a concept soooooo evil.

 

[Navy Pride]

Kinda like the Republicans "patronize" the Fundamentalists.
Incumbents pandering to their voter bases: who ever heard of such a thing? :roll:
What's next?

Can you name me a time where the Republican candidates have had a debate at and organiztion like that this election year?

I thought so.............:roll:

 

[Navy Pride]

In other words talking to gay and lesbian rights groups is pandering but when talking to the Religious Right its considered talking to the people. :roll: Wow homosexuals want the same rights as everyone else what a concept soooooo evil.

Can you name me a time where the Republican candidates have had a debate at and organiztion like that this election year?


I thought so......:roll:

 

[jfuh]

Did anyone see the dems at the Human Rights Union patronizing the Gay community for their vote? How low and disgusting can you get........

I loved Richardsons answer when asked if being gay was a choice.........He said it was........He was the only honest one on the stage.........

The irony that the the most homophobic member on the site is now saying it's disgusting to pander. Tell me please how is it "patronizing"
Why don't we hear you screaming your top off about the repubbies pandering to the religious right np?
Or are you not fair and balanced?

 

[Cold Highway]

Can you name me a time where the Republican candidates have had a debate at and organiztion like that this election year?


I thought so......:roll:

Last time I checked it was August, year doesnt end until December 31st 11:59pm there buddy. The election isnt over until we vote so the Religious Right will have plenty of time to organization a debate like every other group is doing. But nice try in trying to rewrite time there pal.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I loved Richardsons answer when asked if being gay was a choice.........He said it was........He was the only honest one on the stage.........

If Richardson said that, then he proved he knows nothing about homosexuality.

 

[Sergeant Stinger1]

Did anyone see the dems at the Human Rights Union patronizing the Gay community for their vote? How low and disgusting can you get........

I loved Richardsons answer when asked if being gay was a choice.........He said it was........He was the only honest one on the stage.........

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Hummm, how low and disgusting can you get???
I guess about as low as Bush got having 3700 of our Troops killed on a lie.

Is that low enough for you?
If not I have more of Bushie Boys disgusting low things he did.

 

[Kandahar]

I loved Richardsons answer when asked if being gay was a choice.........He said it was........He was the only honest one on the stage.........

When exactly did you choose to be heterosexual? Additionally, could you choose to be gay tomorrow, if you wanted to?

 

[Navy Pride]

When exactly did you choose to be heterosexual? Additionally, could you choose to be gay tomorrow, if you wanted to?

I am just telling you what Richardson said..........

 

[Kandahar]

I am just telling you what Richardson said..........

And you said he was the only honest one, which means that you agree with his comments. So answer the questions.

 

[Gardener]

People shouldn't be too hard on Navy because of course it's a choice. I mean, it may be learned behavior and there are always lots of kids groomed from an early age to be one,but who really thinks little babies are even capable of such thoughts? If this debate is to revolve around nature vrs. nurture, you can definitely count me in on the side of nurture.

Bigotry is a choice.

 

[Navy Pride]

And you said he was the only honest one, which means that you agree with his comments. So answer the questions.

I personally don't believe they are born gay.....I also believe anyone knows for sure whether they are born that way or not.Not you not me.....

 

[new coup for you]

The Democrats that matter, Obama, Hillary and Edwards i believe are firmly with the liberal party line reguarding homosexuality. i believe they want gay marriage, they consider homosexuality the product of genetics and on a personal level probably have gay friends, are comfortable with gay culture, etc. obviously this does not totally gel with what they're presenting to the voter, particularly in Edward's case.

It's the social conservatives that are being patronized here, not the gays. We all know what side Hillary, Obama and Edwards are on.

 

[Peralin]

People shouldn't be too hard on Navy because of course it's a choice. I mean, it may be learned behavior and there are always lots of kids groomed from an early age to be one,but who really thinks little babies are even capable of such thoughts? If this debate is to revolve around nature vrs. nurture, you can definitely count me in on the side of nurture.

Bigotry is a choice.

What difference does it make if they are homosexual by choice or by genetics? They should still be treated the same as heterosexuals! And why would anyone think that attempting to persuade the gay community to vote for a condidate is "low and disgusting"? There's nothing wrong with trying to get somebody's vote, no matter their sexual orientation.

 

[new coup for you]

i agree completely. whenever the gay community allows itself to be trapped into the "choice or not choice" debate it tacitly accepts that there is somthing wrong or inferior about being gay.

 

[TheNextEra]

I personally don't believe they are born gay.....I also believe anyone knows for sure whether they are born that way or not.Not you not me.....

Well then I guess those that say they are born Christian are a bunch a fu**in loonies right, because everyone has a choice. Anyone that says they were born Christian are nuts right NP?

 

[jfuh]

I personally don't believe they are born gay.....I also believe anyone knows for sure whether they are born that way or not.Not you not me.....

The same old ridiculous debunked myth you've spouted millions of times on this site and I've asked you millions of times now every time you *****ing out without daring to answer. Can you choose to be gay NP? Was there ever a point in YOUR life that YOU chose to be straight?

 

[Navy Pride]

The Democrats that matter, Obama, Hillary and Edwards i believe are firmly with the liberal party line reguarding homosexuality. i believe they want gay marriage, they consider homosexuality the product of genetics and on a personal level probably have gay friends, are comfortable with gay culture, etc. obviously this does not totally gel with what they're presenting to the voter, particularly in Edward's case.

It's the social conservatives that are being patronized here, not the gays. We all know what side Hillary, Obama and Edwards are on.

If they are for gay marriage why don't they have the guts to say so??????
I agree I believe they are to but they are gutless........

 

[new coup for you]

"politics is the art of the possible"

When you're not a boot-boy ideological robot you understand the neccessity of compromise

 

[Kandahar]

If they are for gay marriage why don't they have the guts to say so??????

Umm because they're politicians and they don't want to piss people off. Obv.

 

[new coup for you]

and, despite what cable pundits say, a desire to "not piss people off" is the sign of a mature politician. A politician is not elected to enact what he thinks is right, he's elected to enact what he thinks is a workable compromise between the differing values of the electorate. That's why a "waffleing" politician is often just the politician who refuses to stamp his feet, throw tantrums and cry "partisan" when his positions are undercut by the electorate (or worse, engage in illicit manipulation of government like Rove, Delay and co); instead being capable enough to understand the needs of his represenative body verus his own ideological position.

this is not somthing understood or practiced by much of the current republican party.

 

[jfuh]

If they are for gay marriage why don't they have the guts to say so??????
I agree I believe they are to but they are gutless........

Speaking of gutless why can't you support your own choice statements and answer the questions?
Can you choose to be gay NP? Was there ever a point in YOUR life that YOU chose to be straight?

 

[WI Crippler]

I just realized something reading this....

I would be a horrible Presidential candidate. I'd talk to everybody, tell them exactly where I stood on an issue and leave it up to them. I would tell the gay people that I don't care if they get married, but its going to be a state issue, not a federal one. I'd tell the evangelicals that the federal government isn't going to sponsor any initiatives for any religion at all, and keep enjoying your tax break. I'd tell the abortion people that I don't personally agree with abortion (excepting emergencies/rape), but its going to be a state issue, not a federal issue.

I'd suck.......