Dem CRT lies come back to bite them in the .....

[Taylor]

CRT is not being taught in VA public schools, period.

The Big Lie lives on...

 

[Slyfox696]

No, I don't think teaching junk social science is the teaching of history. Was that not clear?

Since you have repeatedly demonstrated that your understanding of CRT is limited, at best, perhaps you ought to sit back and re-evaluate your position. Also, it seems pretty clear to me your understanding of what "teaching history" is falls short as well.

 

[NatMorton]

That...didn't even come close to supporting what you said. Again, do you actually read these things before you post them?

It directly supported what I said. If you can't acknowledge that, then I think it's fair to label you has something less than an honest participant in this discussion.

You're now just sourcing things which in no way support the claims you are making. In no way does anything written on that page (thanks for the link, btw, I was looking for it earlier before settling on the one I sent you) question the concept of the scientific method. You literally just made that up and it shows a pretty stark lack of understanding about CRT or the scientific method or both.

Again, you need to look at more than just the words and think about what these statements mean. "Lived experience" is a euphemism for "believe anecdotal evidence when it support assertions of racism."

 

[NatMorton]

There is a difference between influences and taught. Get a dictionary.

I am still trying to find where it is taught outside of higher education.

I don't care.

 

[Slyfox696]

... Yes, you did, and wound up proving your understanding of CRT is far from complete. I recommend toning down the condescension some. It's not a good look, especially for a teacher, and especially so when flubbing some of the basics.

My comment had nothing to do with my understanding of CRT. Why are you now resorting to posting blatant lies?

My comment had to do with the fact the thing you posted from the NEA was not advocating for CRT, as evidenced by, you know, the words on the page. Do you ever stop and think before you hit the send button?

 

[NatMorton]

Since you have repeatedly demonstrated that your understanding of CRT is limited, at best, perhaps you ought to sit back and re-evaluate your position. Also, it seems pretty clear to me your understanding of what "teaching history" is falls short as well.

That is partisanship talking.

 

[jnug]

I assert there have been attempts to inject CRT into the Virginia Public School system and elsewhere. You're welcome to try and prove that assertion wrong. Or you can go on spouting partisan gibberish like you're doing here. It's your choice.

Its not being taught K-12. Whats the matter. Unhappy that the "influences" that had governed K-12, literal hero worship of slave traders and practitioners of genocide is being bent back to be less influential. Oh let me guess, you would prefer that it continue.

 

[Slyfox696]

This is simply a lie. Why do you and others keep repeating it?

 

[Slyfox696]

The defintion you cited actually aligns with mine:

No, the definition I provided had NOTHING to do with "victimhood".

My defintion certainly had a more flippant tone to it

"False" and "flippant" are not synonyms.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

Not only weak, just silly. I can see this nature of comeback in a Kindergarten class.

You can't even type out complete sentence, every post of your is some dumb comment void of any argument, and you want to talk about Kindergarden class? that's probably why you see this nature of comeback ioften in Kindergarden class,

Projection as par for the course

 

[NatMorton]

the fact the thing you posted from the NEA was not advocating for CRT

Sorry, you cannot be that clueless. You're simply lying now. Verbatim, from that cite the resolution calls on the NEA to "Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -" And you would have us believe that is not "advocating."

You're done here. You've absolutely no credibility on this topic.

 

[jnug]

Sorry, you cannot be that clueless. You're simply lying now. Verbatim, from that cite the resolution calls on the NEA to "Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -" And you would have us believe that is not "advocating."

You're done here. You've absolutely no credibility on this topic.

With teachers and NEA membership. Its advocating that NEA members including teachers be educated on CRT or are you suggesting that this e teachers interchange with the students, one minute K-12 teacher, the next minute seated as K-12 student.

 

[Slyfox696]

It directly supported what I said. If you can't acknowledge that, then I think it's fair to label you has something less than an honest participant in this discussion.

Please show me where the graphic you posted said it was or related to Critical Race Theory.

We can agree one of us is a less than honest participant in this discussion, but it sure isn't me.

Again, you need to look at more than just the words and think about what these statements mean. "Lived experience" is a euphemism for "believe anecdotal evidence when it support assertions of racism."

Again, you are literally making things up that are not on the page. In no way is what you said on that page. The point being made on that page is that when it comes to understanding structural racism, those who have dealt with it are more capable of speaking to it and its effects than those who have not dealt with it. In no way is that at odds with the scientific method. Again, you're literally just making stuff up.

 

[Slyfox696]

That is partisanship talking.

"So even though I don't know what I'm talking about, my point is just as valid." - Every person ever wrong on the Internet

 

[Slyfox696]

Sorry, you cannot be that clueless. You're simply lying now. Verbatim, from that cite the resolution calls on the NEA to "Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -" And you would have us believe that is not "advocating."

How come you didn't provide the entire statement?

"Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -- what it is and what it is not; have a team of staffers for members who want to learn more and fight back against anti-CRT rhetoric; and share information with other NEA members as well as their community members."

Oh, that's why. Because it exposed your position as the fraud it always was. It's not advocating for CRT to promote honest discussion about what CRT even is.

It never ceases to amaze me how people will deliberately omit the part of the statement which proves them wrong and think it will actually work.

You're done here. You've absolutely no credibility on this topic.

I don't blame you for running away. If the lies I were peddling (whether I believe them or not) were getting so soundly exposed and defeated, I'd probably want to hide also.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

The Big Lie lives on...

Prove me wrong. Post verifiable proof from any reliable sources that Virginia public schools are teaching Critical Race Theory to K-12 graders.

 

[BlueTex]

I have to hand it the GQP crowd... Making CRT the rallying cry to instill fear in voters was brilliant... I did a search on our little forum and CRT had never been mentioned before February of this year... Look how fast it spread... It's really amazing..

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't care.

You don't want to understand the truth. You just want to keep lying?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

How come you didn't provide the entire statement?

"Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -- what it is and what it is not; have a team of staffers for members who want to learn more and fight back against anti-CRT rhetoric; and share information with other NEA members as well as their community members."

Oh, that's why. Because it exposed your position as the fraud it always was. It's not advocating for CRT to promote honest discussion about what CRT even is.

It never ceases to amaze me how people will deliberately omit the part of the statement which proves them wrong and think it will actually work.


I don't blame you for running away. If the lies I were peddling (whether I believe them or not) were getting so soundly exposed and defeated, I'd probably want to hide also.

 

[BirdinHand]

I remember when permission slips were sent home to get parental permission if any topic was to be presented which might feel controversial or inappropriate to a parent. That was great. The parents were made well aware if anything which might go against the family's religious beliefs, or other, was to be presented. Or, if something (e.g., sex education) was to be discussed before the parents had addressed it at home - maybe feeling their individual child was still too young for that conversation.
Many of the parents of children these days well remember bringing those permission slips home for their parents to sign - and likely think that's where the decision should be made - at home and by the parent.

And, really, I think that's really what this comes down to. Parents want specifics as to what is going to be taught. Both states have enacted legislation saying that these complex topics are to be taught from K-12.

Right now? The only information they have (myself included) is what is included in the legislation and politicians and talking heads.

How about schools send out what these curricula will look like? Give parents the opportunity to see them, ask questions, and then if they want, opt their children out.

There is a way to teach these topics in age-appropriate manners. There is also the possibility to get it completely wrong. Be transparent and engaging with parents and I think the issue goes away.

 

[tres borrachos]

Prove me wrong. Post verifiable proof from any reliable sources that Virginia public schools are teaching Critical Race Theory to K-12 graders.

He can't. He'll post the PowerPoint that some idiots have claimed to be "evidence". Or the memo that other idiots have claimed to be "evidence". Meanwhile not a single person has come forward with evidence that it's being taught.

No teachers. No parents. No guidance counselors. Nobody. Period.

Because it isn't being taught in VA schools.

 

[tres borrachos]

How come you didn't provide the entire statement?

"Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -- what it is and what it is not; have a team of staffers for members who want to learn more and fight back against anti-CRT rhetoric; and share information with other NEA members as well as their community members."

Oh, that's why. Because it exposed your position as the fraud it always was. It's not advocating for CRT to promote honest discussion about what CRT even is.

It never ceases to amaze me how people will deliberately omit the part of the statement which proves them wrong and think it will actually work.


I don't blame you for running away. If the lies I were peddling (whether I believe them or not) were getting so soundly exposed and defeated, I'd probably want to hide also.

Wow. Another brilliant post.

 

[NatMorton]

How come you didn't provide the entire statement?

"Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT) -- what it is and what it is not; have a team of staffers for members who want to learn more and fight back against anti-CRT rhetoric; and share information with other NEA members as well as their community members."

Oh, that's why. Because it exposed your position as the fraud it always was. It's not advocating for CRT to promote honest discussion about what CRT even is.

It never ceases to amaze me how people will deliberately omit the part of the statement which proves them wrong and think it will actually work.


I don't blame you for running away. If the lies I were peddling (whether I believe them or not) were getting so soundly exposed and defeated, I'd probably want to hide also.

Oh. I’m still here. And I’m still saying your BS about the NEA’s resolution proves that despite all your bluster you are not to be taken seriously on this subject. Your posts are partisan nonsense.

 

[NatMorton]

I have to hand it the GQP crowd... Making CRT the rallying cry to instill fear in voters was brilliant... I did a search on our little forum and CRT had never been mentioned before February of this year... Look how fast it spread... It's really amazing..

Odd that the documentation cited here in this thread re attempts to bring it into the VA schools would go back to 2015.

 

[NatMorton]

You don't want to understand the truth. You just want to keep lying?

I don’t care about his nonsense. Or yours.