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that's a false dichotomy; in both instances the individual is being productive. the main difference that i can see is that one form is taxed twice.
you might be a good teacher
what you are not is more educated about taxes than I am.
I am not saying what the tax code is
I am saying what a fair tax code SHOULD BE
learn the difference
There is no double tax. Money that makes money is taxed at a lower rate. You are not taxed on the principle.
There is no double tax. Money that makes money is taxed at a lower rate. You are not taxed on the principle.
And that is fine with me. Just DO NOT EVER think that you can criticize my teaching simply because I see things in government differently than you do.
And since you are saying what a fair tax should be , your previous comment about my knowledge of the tax code seems to be rather inappropriate since you are not basing your views on what is in the code at all.
You want to talk about pie in the sky? Go for it. The only problem is that you want the biggest piece of pie and you want everyone else to pay more so you can have it all to yourself.
and you want to eat pie you did nothing to bake or create merely because you exist in the same area as the cook
not exactly - what i do want is a mutual understanding that we all occupy the same space... we all use the same public common resources .... we all use each other .... and we are all a society together
the labor which is represented by that money (labor i have stored in monetary form) has already been taxed; now it is taxed again? furthermore, it is taxed when it makes money and then again when i get it in the form of 'income'? maybe this is a subjective question; but it doesn't seem to me how this isn't double taxation.
You should also include property taxes and sales taxes, government toll roads as well in your calculations. Along with government tariffs, gas taxes etc
All of which are paid for with taxed income
darn good point, and reason # 1,208 to move over to a retail-level sales tax.
Yes, I agree.
A one party "final solution" dictatorship is what this democracy needs.
Round up the liberals and put them in labor camps before it's too late!
There is no double tax. Money that makes money is taxed at a lower rate. You are not taxed on the principle.
but you want a system where the many can vote away the wealth of those who are a voting minority and you want the minority to pay for most of the stuff that those in the community use.
the fact that you exist in the same geopolitical area as I do does not create a just claim by you on the property I own
you and those who feel as you do always complain that the rich ought to be more "community minded" while your mindset seems to have problems telling the massive number of people who really give nothing that others will carry the load for them
If you do not like representative democracy I suggest you find a nation more to your liking. It is the way it is and that is what it is.
The Constitution and the government of the people, by the people and for the people disagree with you on that.
I suspect that much of the rich would not be where they are today if they had not done so on the backs of the common people by enslaving them, exploiting them and dominating them through a rigged and corrupt system for much of our sad history. The great mass of working people indeed have carried the load for them and made it possible for them to be where they are today.
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If you do not like representative democracy I suggest you find a nation more to your liking. It is the way it is and that is what it is.
The Constitution and the government of the people, by the people and for the people disagree with you on that.
I suspect that much of the rich would not be where they are today if they had not done so on the backs of the common people by enslaving them, exploiting them and dominating them through a rigged and corrupt system for much of our sad history. The great mass of working people indeed have carried the load for them and made it possible for them to be where they are today.
were we a representative democracy in 1800?
The Constitution and the government of the people, by the people and for the people disagree with you on that.
fascinating claim. where in the Constitution do you find a rejection of Jeffersons' oft-repeated warning against giving to some the 'right' to the product and property of others?
I suspect that much of the rich would not be where they are today if they had not done so on the backs of the common people by enslaving them, exploiting them and dominating them through a rigged and corrupt system for much of our sad history. The great mass of working people indeed have carried the load for them and made it possible for them to be where they are today.
then you have either no idea of the history you claim to have taught, or no idea of economics. fortunes are not made "off people's backs" unless it is literally slavery; and those who were rich via slavery were a tiny minority even in the antebellum South (and certainly they were ruined with the region after the War of the Rebellion). fortunes were made by helping others. the great mass of working people have benefited from the wealthy.
because dividends are double taxed.
I agree, but the better solution to that is to eliminate/reduce the corporate tax and have dividends taxed at the normal income rate.
Why would people rush to pull out their investments before a tax hike? That just doesn't make any sense. [/sarcasm]
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This should be a wake up call to every lover of American liberty that we need to put the Democrats out of business permanently. There is not doubt that their behavior for last two years, and especially after the latest election, they have no love for their country. The lying, the corruption and the disrespect for the vote; they need to go. They know that this can happen, and want everyone's retirement to get ****ed up, so they can hash more savior plans to make people dependent on government.
Yes, I agree.
A one party "final solution" dictatorship is what this democracy needs.
Round up the liberals and put them in labor camps before it's too late!
At least that will get the socialistsumbeeches working.
Yes. Apparently certain political ideologies are for lazy people and some are for the industrious
Yes. Apparently certain political ideologies are for lazy people and some are for the industrious
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