House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said yesterday that he has done nothing wrong ethically, and is eager to talk to the ethics committee about recent news reports questioning whether two overseas trips he took, paid for by interest groups, violated House standards.
"I feel confident I've done nothing wrong," the Texas Republican said.
He harshly criticized a series of stories in The Washington Post, which reported Mr. DeLay took a trip to South Korea in 2001 that was paid for by a group that had registered as a foreign agent and another trip to Britain in 2000 that the newspaper said largely was funded by an Indian tribe and gambling interests. The paper said Mr. DeLay later voted against a bill the tribe and gambling interests opposed.
Fantasea said:Typical socialist-lib-dem tactics. If you can beat 'em at the polls, sue 'em, screw em' and tattoo 'em with the nastiest labels known to man.
It just happens to be DeLay's turn.
It's comforting to know that you agree.Pacridge said:Yeah the GOP would never do that.
Don't place mudslinging squarely on the shoulders of Democrats when Republicans do it just as much, if not more. It's not a 'socialist-lib-Dem' thing, it's just a fact of modern American politics. By tthe way, I have a problem with you calling liberals socialists, when they are clearly two separate ideologies. And then to paint a picture of Dems as socialist? That's totally ridiculous. There hasn't been a socialist running as a Dem in some time. Frankly, the Dems of late have been just a pro-capitalist as the GOP (the Clinton years, and his and Blair's 'third way'). The socialist party is socialist (duh), the Dems are certainly not socialist.Fantasea said:Typical socialist-lib-dem tactics. If you can beat 'em at the polls, sue 'em, screw em' and tattoo 'em with the nastiest labels known to man.
It just happens to be DeLay's turn.
It is obvious that we share different perspectives.anomaly said:Don't place mudslinging squarely on the shoulders of Democrats when Republicans do it just as much, if not more. It's not a 'socialist-lib-Dem' thing, it's just a fact of modern American politics. By tthe way, I have a problem with you calling liberals socialists, when they are clearly two separate ideologies. And then to paint a picture of Dems as socialist? That's totally ridiculous. There hasn't been a socialist running as a Dem in some time. Frankly, the Dems of late have been just a pro-capitalist as the GOP (the Clinton years, and his and Blair's 'third way'). The socialist party is socialist (duh), the Dems are certainly not socialist.
If you can call Democrats socialists, does that mean I can call Republicans fascists? Obviously both statements are false, but apparently you have no problem with such a statement.Fantasea said:It is obvious that we share different perspectives.
You know the old saw, "If it looks like a duck, etc., etc."
Are you asking my permission? If so, it is granted. You may call the Republicans anything you wish. Don't be surprised, however, if your comments meet with the same indifference as your socialist preaching.anomaly said:If you can call Democrats socialists, does that mean I can call Republicans fascists? Obviously both statements are false, but apparently you have no problem with such a statement.
*note: I do not mean to imply that socialism is bad, as I am in fact myself a socialist. At the same time, I make no judgement of Fascists or Republicans, or, for that matter, Democrats, here. I simply point out that socialism is left of liberalism, just as fascism is right of conservatism.
Capitalist preaching is far more dangerous to the people of this world than so called 'socialist preaching'. I never knew stating the obvious was 'preaching'. BTW, thanks for your permission.Fantasea said:Are you asking my permission? If so, it is granted. You may call the Republicans anything you wish. Don't be surprised, however, if your comments meet with the same indifference as your socialist preaching.
You can't be that old. Surely you remember that as soon as a Republican became Speaker of the House in 1994, the Democrats immediately formed a 'hit squad', headed by David Bonior (D) MI. They bombarded him with an uninterrupted stream accusations of ethics violations until he realized that he could no longer be effective, and so, he resigned. The Democrats then proceeded to brutalize each of his successors right on up to Tom DeLay, whom they are continuing to savage.Freedom69 said:Where is A "Ken Progressive party" Star type when you need him .
I wonder why congress doesn't hire A Ken Star type to go after Tom Delay the way Ken Star went after Bill Clinton.
I really have to wonder if Tom Delay I willing to bet not .
So I ask myself then why doesn't the united states congress hire A super investigator like Ken Star ......OOPS how stupid of me thats right Tom Delay is A republican and so is the US Congress
I giess I'm getting old
Tom Delay is going down this crazy path and who knows what he really means by that statement, but let it be known that the RNC has his back the whole way down the rabbit hole in an ultimatum kind of way:Mrs. Schiavo’s death is a moral poverty and a legal tragedy. This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change. The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today. Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Schindlers and with Terri Schiavo's friends in this time of deep sorrow.
It's pretty sad that a party is not allowing dissention in the ranks on a SMALL issue like that.Morton Blackwell, Republican National Committee member from Virginia and a member of ACU's board, said Republicans are being told support for Mr. DeLay is mandatory if they want future support from conservatives.
"Conservative leaders across the country are working now to make sure that any politician who hopes to have conservative support in the future had better be in the forefront as we attack those who attack Tom DeLay," he said.
A read of the entire article confirms what I wrote in post #15.shuamort said:Tom Delay has an....interesting quote about Schiavo on his website:
Tom Delay is going down this crazy path and who knows what he really means by that statement, but let it be known that the RNC has his back the whole way down the rabbit hole in an ultimatum kind of way:
It's pretty sad that a party is not allowing dissention in the ranks on a SMALL issue like that.
If Tom Delay was quilty of the accusations, Republicans wouldn't stand behind him. That is unique to the Republican Party unlike the Democrats who circle the wagons, no matter what."Conservative leaders across the country are working now to make sure that any politician who hopes to have conservative support in the future had better be in the forefront as we attack those who attack Tom DeLay," he said.
It'd resound more if mudslinging were a novel concept.Fantasea said:A read of the entire article confirms what I wrote in post #15.
Squawker said:If Tom Delay was quilty of the accusations, Republicans wouldn't stand behind him. That is unique to the Republican Party unlike the Democrats who circle the wagons, no matter what.
Fantasea said:Their current role as obstructionists doesn't help them at all.
shuamort said:One robin does not a spring make.It looks like one republican is ignoring Blackwell's comments:
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