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Defending our country from Trump

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Kind of an amazing article when you think about it, but it is far from surprising. After all, everyone not actively and perpetually TDS has been pointing this out for 3 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ms-officials-are-defending-our-country-trump/

In all the ongoing horrors emanating from the White House, you may have forgotten the story of that Oval Office meeting, but it was truly shocking. It concerned a spy Israel had succeeded in placing near the center of the Islamic State, a piece of information so sensitive that we hadn’t even shared it with many of our key allies. And then Trump, in an apparent attempt to impress the Russians, just told them all about it.

Trump defended himself by saying “I have the absolute right” to give incredibly sensitive secrets to our adversaries. This is technically true — as president, he can decide what’s classified and what isn’t, and reveal pretty much whatever he wants, no matter how pathetic or nefarious his motives.

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Some people assert that Trump is in fact a Russian asset; whether you agree will depend on how you define the term. But it has become clear that across the government and the country, everyone has had to adjust their expectations and actions to the fact that the president of the United States simply cannot be trusted to uphold America’s interests...

The bold is absolutely stunning...and, 100% true.
 
Yay, more anonymous information and allegation... coming from WaPo... I'll check back when more people have had a chance to chew on this dry bone.
 
Yay, more anonymous information and allegation... coming from WaPo... I'll check back when more people have had a chance to chew on this dry bone.

Who was the only media allowed to record the meeting between the Russian Foreign Minister and the US Ambassador in the Oval Office?

Like a reunion of old buddies.....

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...and guess who gets the photo credits?
 
The bold is absolutely stunning...and, 100% true.

I've been saying that about politicans in general for years.

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Yay, more anonymous information and allegation... coming from WaPo... I'll check back when more people have had a chance to chew on this dry bone.

It's not exactly anything we don't already know. Or, are you going to pretend Trump was talking golf scores when the Russians came to visit? :roll:
 
Who was the only media allowed to record the meeting between the Russian Foreign Minister and the US Ambassador in the Oval Office?

Like a reunion of old buddies.....

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...and guess who gets the photo credits?

Not relative to the point, so I honestly don't care. But you're going to try and through a red herring in there anyway, aren't you?
 
Not relative to the point, so I honestly don't care. But you're going to try and through a red herring in there anyway, aren't you?

That is actually a false statement. It has everything to do with the point of why Trump cannot be trusted.
 
It's not exactly anything we don't already know. Or, are you going to pretend Trump was talking golf scores when the Russians came to visit? :roll:

Golf courses? Where did you get this wild idea? It was about adoption.
 
Trump meeting with russians in the oval office and no record of what was discussed and the right literally has no problem with that. Can you just imagine the heads exploding on the right if obama had done that? Or invited the taliban to camp david?
 
Kind of an amazing article when you think about it, but it is far from surprising. After all, everyone not actively and perpetually TDS has been pointing this out for 3 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ms-officials-are-defending-our-country-trump/



The bold is absolutely stunning...and, 100% true.

Any story like this one that suggests Israel and the US are actually working against ISIS is malignant propaganda, pure BS.

Israel and the US hired and supported ISIS to advance their agenda for a Greater Israel.

As for Trump being a clown, everybody knows that already.
 
Yay, more anonymous information and allegation... coming from WaPo... I'll check back when more people have had a chance to chew on this dry bone.

It's absolutely true and this hasn't been a secret at all. This was public knowledge back in May 2017 and as Calamity has said, people on the left have been dismissed as having 'TDS' or some other foolish label they put on the fact checkers and truth-tellers.

I recall at the time, our focus was the firing of James Comey. Not only did Trump, Kislyak and Lavrov have a good laugh over the firing of James Comey because as Trump told them, “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job.” When I heard and saw photos of this meeting in the White House, I literally gave up on the US that very day. I knew that if the American public could tolerate our president welcoming and hosting two of Russia's top spies inside the Oval Office -- OUR Oval Office, then the America I knew was lost. If there wasn't an uproar and outrage over that meeting it meant that the U.S. has been sold out.

In this meeting, Trump was trying so hard to bend over backwards to please the Russian spies that he openly offered them highly sensitive information fiercely protected by the Israelis. He discussed classified information provided by an U.S. ally regarding about a planned Islamic State operation. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak absolutely howled with glee that Trump could so easily be prodded into giving up Israel state secrets. Trump provided enough details of this operation that the Russians could conclude the identity of the ally and the way in which it was collected.

For those of you here that will call it 'fake news', Trump actually admitted it himself, that he had disclosed sensitive information about the source of the Israeli operation. Even worse, he justified his stupid mistake. The disclosure was reported in The Washington Post on May 15, 2017. White House staff initially denied the report, but the following day Trump defended the disclosure, stating that he has the "absolute right" to "share" intelligence with Russia.

Absorb that for a moment, let it sink in. For Trump supporters who, at the time, dismissed this as a 'nothingburger' (that was athe catchphrase at the time) or called it 'fake news' or 'no big deal', just think about the gravity of that. Will you now say "That's not important, it's meaningless, they would have found out even if Trump didn't spill the beans." Is that what you'd say now?

There's an old idiom from WW11 that says 'loose lips sink ships'. It simply means 'beware of unguarded talk'. People in government and more importantly the president hold many state secrets and they are 'secret' for a reason. National security is at stake. When Trump laughingly shared this vital Israeli information he was putting lives at risk. That's not hyperbole or an exaggeration. Real men and women's lives were put at risk by our president on that day. When our allies (if we have an left) have lost confidence that the president of the United States will keep details of operations or other correspondence meant for his ears only, then we've totally lost our friends around the world and again, it puts the U.S. national security at risk.

US officials were so alarmed by Trump's decision to reveal classified intelligence to Russian officials during that Oval Office meeting in 2017 that they extracted a top-secret source from Russia shortly after that meeting. Yes, the CIA felt the American spy in Russia was in danger of being murdered and they feared that only because Trump might reveal his identity to the Russians. The information Trump shared with the Russians in 2017 wasn't directly connected to the source, but his disclosure to the Russians prompted intelligence officials to renew discussions about the potential risk that the source would be exposed by Trump either intentionally or unintentionally.

This is no joke and Trump supporters may just dismiss it with a wave of their hand and brush it off. When it comes down to what could literally be a life or death situation for any American citizen, and in particular someone who's working in Russia as a spy for the US intelligence, then it's no longer something that any sane, patriotic American should take lightly.
 
Trump meeting with russians in the oval office and no record of what was discussed and the right literally has no problem with that. Can you just imagine the heads exploding on the right if obama had done that? Or invited the taliban to camp david?

Are you under the impression that all meetings in the Oval Office are recorded? Why?
 
Are you under the impression that all meetings in the Oval Office are recorded? Why?

There was an interpreter their taking notes and the prez confiscated the notes from the interpreter. To answer your question, I don't know.
 
Kind of an amazing article when you think about it, but it is far from surprising. After all, everyone not actively and perpetually TDS has been pointing this out for 3 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ms-officials-are-defending-our-country-trump/



The bold is absolutely stunning...and, 100% true.

You dudes got punked AGAIN!...lol

The extraordinary CIA rebuke came as The New York Times published a bombshell piece late in the evening, which largely contradicted CNN's reporting. According to the Times, CIA officials "made the arduous decision in late 2016 to offer to extract the source from Russia" — weeks before Trump even took office.

CIA slams CNN'''s '''misguided''' and '''simply false''' reporting on alleged CIA spy'''s extraction from Kremlin | Fox News
 
Kind of an amazing article when you think about it, but it is far from surprising. After all, everyone not actively and perpetually TDS has been pointing this out for 3 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ms-officials-are-defending-our-country-trump/



The bold is absolutely stunning...and, 100% true.

And yet anyone with even a passing acquaintance with Trump's history is aware that Trump has only one priority (make that two), promoting himself at everyone else's expense, and money. But of course he magically transformed, road to Damascus-like, the day he took office, from a venal self-serving twat into a caring, selfless and patriotic American!
 
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And yet anyone with even a passing acquaintance with Trump's history is aware that Trump has only one priority (make that two), promoting himself at everyone else's expense, and money. But of course he magically transformed, road to Damascus-like, the day he took office, from a venal self-serving twat into a caring, selfless and patriotic American!

I have no idea what the people who voted for him were thinking, except perhaps that they weren't.
 
Golf courses? Where did you get this wild idea? It was about adoption.

That's right, Trump wants to adopt some Russian bribe money and grow it as his own.
 
It's absolutely true and this hasn't been a secret at all. This was public knowledge back in May 2017 and as Calamity has said, people on the left have been dismissed as having 'TDS' or some other foolish label they put on the fact checkers and truth-tellers.

I recall at the time, our focus was the firing of James Comey. Not only did Trump, Kislyak and Lavrov have a good laugh over the firing of James Comey because as Trump told them, “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job.” When I heard and saw photos of this meeting in the White House, I literally gave up on the US that very day. I knew that if the American public could tolerate our president welcoming and hosting two of Russia's top spies inside the Oval Office -- OUR Oval Office, then the America I knew was lost. If there wasn't an uproar and outrage over that meeting it meant that the U.S. has been sold out.

In this meeting, Trump was trying so hard to bend over backwards to please the Russian spies that he openly offered them highly sensitive information fiercely protected by the Israelis. He discussed classified information provided by an U.S. ally regarding about a planned Islamic State operation. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak absolutely howled with glee that Trump could so easily be prodded into giving up Israel state secrets. Trump provided enough details of this operation that the Russians could conclude the identity of the ally and the way in which it was collected.

For those of you here that will call it 'fake news', Trump actually admitted it himself, that he had disclosed sensitive information about the source of the Israeli operation. Even worse, he justified his stupid mistake. The disclosure was reported in The Washington Post on May 15, 2017. White House staff initially denied the report, but the following day Trump defended the disclosure, stating that he has the "absolute right" to "share" intelligence with Russia.

Absorb that for a moment, let it sink in. For Trump supporters who, at the time, dismissed this as a 'nothingburger' (that was athe catchphrase at the time) or called it 'fake news' or 'no big deal', just think about the gravity of that. Will you now say "That's not important, it's meaningless, they would have found out even if Trump didn't spill the beans." Is that what you'd say now?

There's an old idiom from WW11 that says 'loose lips sink ships'. It simply means 'beware of unguarded talk'. People in government and more importantly the president hold many state secrets and they are 'secret' for a reason. National security is at stake. When Trump laughingly shared this vital Israeli information he was putting lives at risk. That's not hyperbole or an exaggeration. Real men and women's lives were put at risk by our president on that day. When our allies (if we have an left) have lost confidence that the president of the United States will keep details of operations or other correspondence meant for his ears only, then we've totally lost our friends around the world and again, it puts the U.S. national security at risk.

US officials were so alarmed by Trump's decision to reveal classified intelligence to Russian officials during that Oval Office meeting in 2017 that they extracted a top-secret source from Russia shortly after that meeting. Yes, the CIA felt the American spy in Russia was in danger of being murdered and they feared that only because Trump might reveal his identity to the Russians. The information Trump shared with the Russians in 2017 wasn't directly connected to the source, but his disclosure to the Russians prompted intelligence officials to renew discussions about the potential risk that the source would be exposed by Trump either intentionally or unintentionally.

This is no joke and Trump supporters may just dismiss it with a wave of their hand and brush it off. When it comes down to what could literally be a life or death situation for any American citizen, and in particular someone who's working in Russia as a spy for the US intelligence, then it's no longer something that any sane, patriotic American should take lightly.

Strange, nothing by a long spiel that covers most of the same that keeps getting thrown out.. any citations from credible sources?
 
There was an interpreter their taking notes and the prez confiscated the notes from the interpreter. To answer your question, I don't know.

If you don’t know then why should “the right” or anyone else take issue?
 
Strange, nothing by a long spiel that covers most of the same that keeps getting thrown out.. any citations from credible sources?

Well, most of us consider our own eyes quite credible...others prefer to believe the sound of a lying, known con man.
 
I've been saying that about politicans in general for years.

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Sorry, but substituting empty generalizations as a way of rationalizing the incompetence of Trump doesn’t cut it.

It’s pretty weak.
 
Not relative to the point, so I honestly don't care. But you're going to try and through a red herring in there anyway, aren't you?

You don’t care that the President of the United States demonstrated both his incompetence and his disloyalty by casually revealing the name of an intelligence asset to a Russian diplomat (one who happened to also be the FSB’s head of station for the US).

I guess you don’t care that the meeting was held without the presence of the US press (only the Russians), and that the only read out of a White House meeting came from Russian media.

Which country are you loyal to????????

Maybe the question would be less relevant were there only one time when this happened, and it could be put down to Trump’s lack of experience.

But meeting in secret with Russian leaders and not discussing the content of the meeting would become a pattern with Trump and is still ongoing, as it had been throughout the 2016 campaign.

And as for the usual Trumpster “anonymous sources” play, that’s not even true.

The Russians reported it. When folks in the US said “WTF” regarding Trump’s questionable behavior, Trump admitted it by defending it.
 
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