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Defending Medicaid Cuts, Ernst Tells Iowans, ‘We All Are Going to Die’

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"Ms. Ernst was fielding questions about cuts to Medicaid that were included in the domestic policy bill working its way through Congress, when someone in the audience yelled out that the effect would be that “people are going to die.”

“Well, we all are going to die,” Ms. Ernst responded, drawing jeers from the crowd.

Ms. Ernst appeared taken aback by the negative response. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said.

Ms. Ernst’s comment on Friday came after town hall attendees interrupted her as she was highlighting provisions in the measure that sought to ensure that undocumented immigrants, who are not eligible to enroll in Medicaid, would not receive any services. As they defend the legislation, Republicans often refer to that aspect of it, suggesting that the only major changes it would make to Medicaid would be cracking down on waste and abuse in the program, including illegal use by undocumented people. Still, it is the more morbid portion of Ms. Ernst’s remarks that Democrats are likely to play on repeat in campaign aids against her in the coming months.


...A spokesman for Ms. Ernst said in a statement: “While Democrats fearmonger against strengthening the integrity of Medicaid, Senator Ernst is focused on improving the lives of all Iowans.”

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They don't care if you live or die, folks.

Her adding that it was illegal immigrants who are really going to suffer is a nice touch - "Please folks, direct youre ire at them." But won't them using the emergency room just drive up costs?
 
"Ms. Ernst was fielding questions about cuts to Medicaid that were included in the domestic policy bill working its way through Congress, when someone in the audience yelled out that the effect would be that “people are going to die.”

“Well, we all are going to die,” Ms. Ernst responded, drawing jeers from the crowd.

Ms. Ernst appeared taken aback by the negative response. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said.

Ms. Ernst’s comment on Friday came after town hall attendees interrupted her as she was highlighting provisions in the measure that sought to ensure that undocumented immigrants, who are not eligible to enroll in Medicaid, would not receive any services. As they defend the legislation, Republicans often refer to that aspect of it, suggesting that the only major changes it would make to Medicaid would be cracking down on waste and abuse in the program, including illegal use by undocumented people. Still, it is the more morbid portion of Ms. Ernst’s remarks that Democrats are likely to play on repeat in campaign aids against her in the coming months.


...A spokesman for Ms. Ernst said in a statement: “While Democrats fearmonger against strengthening the integrity of Medicaid, Senator Ernst is focused on improving the lives of all Iowans.”

Link

They don't care if you live or die, folks.

Her adding that it was illegal immigrants who are really going to suffer is a nice touch - "Please folks, direct youre ire at them." But won't them using the emergency room just drive up costs?
Remember when they were worried about made-up death panels?
 
Conservatism is a death cult. Especially American conservatism.

This should shock no one given their rhetoric during the height of covid.

They don't care and view you as expendible for their own personal gain and extremist ideology. They're terrible people.

This is a let them eat cake moment.
 
House Republican proposals target cuts for state-funded coverage, and now, legal immigrant children and pregnant women too.

“The most harmful (and likely unlawful) provision targeting immigrants in the House Republican proposal is one in which the federal government would strip some states of federal funding based on how states spend their own state dollars. Under current law, the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP) for Medicaid expansion is 90% – meaning the federal government ultimately pays for 90% of the cost of Medicaid services, with states paying 10%. The House Republican bill (in its original form) would penalize states that use state dollars to provide coverage for undocumented immigrants, by reducing their Medicaid expansion FMAP to 80%. This would be a gigantic Medicaid cut in those states and double the cost of Medicaid expansion for those states. As described above, 14 states and DCcurrently offer such coverage outside of their Medicaid programs and the coverage most often goes to children and pregnant women who will give birth to U.S. citizens. Despite the strong policy reasons for the states to preserve the coverage, states would be under enormous financial pressure to cancel their own state programs. There is no legal authority for the federal government to withhold Medicaid funding to a state based on things it does outside of its Medicaid program.

Most recently, the House Republican bill was made even more harmful by expanding the penalty to also penalize states that provide coverage to legal immigrants. This revised version of the bill would specifically target states providing coverage to children and pregnant women who are legal immigrants under the ICHIA option described above. These states would effectively be forced to abandon their ICHIA coverage, or else face the gargantuan Medicaid expansion penalty. The House Republican bill thus represents an attempt to largely end bipartisan ICHIA coverage for children and pregnant women through a back-door trick.

However, at the same time, the bill is designed to favor some states over others, because the penalty only applies to states that have expanded Medicaid. So for example, North Carolina and Florida both currently use ICHIA to expand coverage to legal immigrant children, however, only North Carolina will face a crushing loss of funding for doing so, while Florida will suffer no consequence at all.”

Blackhearted, anti-American MAGAt officials want to penalize states that use their own tax dollars to care for migrants (illegal and legal).
 
Remember when they were worried about made-up death panels?

Nice catch.

A recent NPR segment covered this topic in extensive detail, and yes, people who now rely on coverage to stay alive will soon not have that coverage.

Another common outcome is that people who rely on preventive medical assistance to keep their health conditions from worsening will now not have that preventive care, thus putting greater strain on higher-cost emergency room services.

It was rough to hear people calling in to ask how their situations would change under this new bill and then hearing the bad news from medical professionals.

MAGA, of course, would boo such people for complaining.
 
"Ms. Ernst was fielding questions about cuts to Medicaid that were included in the domestic policy bill working its way through Congress, when someone in the audience yelled out that the effect would be that “people are going to die.”

“Well, we all are going to die,” Ms. Ernst responded, drawing jeers from the crowd.

Ms. Ernst appeared taken aback by the negative response. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said.

Ms. Ernst’s comment on Friday came after town hall attendees interrupted her as she was highlighting provisions in the measure that sought to ensure that undocumented immigrants, who are not eligible to enroll in Medicaid, would not receive any services. As they defend the legislation, Republicans often refer to that aspect of it, suggesting that the only major changes it would make to Medicaid would be cracking down on waste and abuse in the program, including illegal use by undocumented people. Still, it is the more morbid portion of Ms. Ernst’s remarks that Democrats are likely to play on repeat in campaign aids against her in the coming months.


...A spokesman for Ms. Ernst said in a statement: “While Democrats fearmonger against strengthening the integrity of Medicaid, Senator Ernst is focused on improving the lives of all Iowans.”

Link

They don't care if you live or die, folks.

Her adding that it was illegal immigrants who are really going to suffer is a nice touch - "Please folks, direct youre ire at them." But won't them using the emergency room just drive up costs?

Implied: “So what if poor people die early because they don’t have access to medical intervention? We can’t worry about collateral damage as we are trying to reduce the deficit.”

The Republican Party has decided to become a death panel.
 
Implied: “So what if poor people die early because they don’t have access to medical intervention? We can’t worry about collateral damage as we are trying to reduce the deficit.”
you mean as they are trying to give tax cuts to people who aren't poor?
 
"Ms. Ernst was fielding questions about cuts to Medicaid that were included in the domestic policy bill working its way through Congress, when someone in the audience yelled out that the effect would be that “people are going to die.”

“Well, we all are going to die,” Ms. Ernst responded, drawing jeers from the crowd.

Ms. Ernst appeared taken aback by the negative response. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said.
She thought that going to be an applause line?

 
Implied: “So what if poor people die early because they don’t have access to medical intervention? We can’t worry about collateral damage as we are trying to reduce the deficit.”

The Republican Party has decided to become a death panel.
They aren't reducing the deficit.
 
i saw a similar response from trump supporters defending trump's "management" of covid..."they were on their last leg anyway".
 
And she's a moderate...

 
"Ms. Ernst was fielding questions about cuts to Medicaid that were included in the domestic policy bill working its way through Congress, when someone in the audience yelled out that the effect would be that “people are going to die.”

“Well, we all are going to die,” Ms. Ernst responded, drawing jeers from the crowd.

Ms. Ernst appeared taken aback by the negative response. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said.

Ms. Ernst’s comment on Friday came after town hall attendees interrupted her as she was highlighting provisions in the measure that sought to ensure that undocumented immigrants, who are not eligible to enroll in Medicaid, would not receive any services. As they defend the legislation, Republicans often refer to that aspect of it, suggesting that the only major changes it would make to Medicaid would be cracking down on waste and abuse in the program, including illegal use by undocumented people. Still, it is the more morbid portion of Ms. Ernst’s remarks that Democrats are likely to play on repeat in campaign aids against her in the coming months.


...A spokesman for Ms. Ernst said in a statement: “While Democrats fearmonger against strengthening the integrity of Medicaid, Senator Ernst is focused on improving the lives of all Iowans.”

Link

They don't care if you live or die, folks.

Her adding that it was illegal immigrants who are really going to suffer is a nice touch - "Please folks, direct youre ire at them." But won't them using the emergency room just drive up costs?
This is another case of Maga humor, eh?
Yo, bitches I was just joking about us all dying.
Existentially, we are all in the throes of death, amirite?
 
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