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Declassified Transcripts of Flynn-Kislyak Calls Released

All you're doing is spreading disinformation while denying the mountain of evidence against the real criminals.

Not one single word you write can be believed.

Always the go-to Cult evasion-- Massive Projection -- every time. (Pssst: you know it doesn't work no matter how massive it is or often you use it, right? In fact, the more you do it the more pathetic you look and that's hard to do).
 
And from Mr. Mueller point of view as well. He is the one who said that he couldn't establish coordination.

You people just cannot get it right (i.e., refuse to get it right). Mueller's report said it couldn't establish enough evidence for a CONSPIRACY but found dozens of examples of coordination and cooperation as you've been shown time and time again. Why don't you just admit that you people are fine with Dirtbag's fondness for trying to use foreign help for his domestic political gain. He did it again with Ukraine and he'll do it yet again before this year's campaign is over.
 
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It would seem that actually receiving information from Russia about a political opponent would be the greater evil than wanting to receive information from Russia.
If the outrage is genuine, that is.
 
Clappper-- page 87 and 88
Lynch - page 64 and 65
McCabe- 208-210
Rice- page 72
Yates- page 24-26

Thank you for taking the time to do this. I know it's work.

Now we can analyze what you referenced. This is where the rubber meets the road

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https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/jc7.pdf

Clappper -- page 87 and 88

Q: Now, it's been your repeated testimony today, as I understand it, that there was no -- you're not aware of any direct evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign during your service as DNI. Is that correct?

CLAPPER. That's right.

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You are confused about the difference between direct evidence, which requires no inference, and indirect or circumstantial evidence which requires an inference:

Direct evidence - Wikipedia.

Circumstantial evidence - Wikipedia

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Your claim was that all Obama-era officials said there was "no evidence" of a conspiracy.

So, in your first example, you've already failed to prove your point...in fact, you've disproven it due to your appalling ignorance of the difference between direct and indirect evidence.


Let's look at the other quotes you claim to represent examples of Obama-era officials saying there was "no evidence" of a conspiracy.

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Lynch - page 64 and 65

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/ll32.pdf


Lynch doesn't even answer the question...

The questioning continues:


And again, Lynch's response, and even the question posed to Lynch, does not in any way support your conclusion.

You are 0 for 2.

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https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/am33.pdf

McCabe - 208-210


McCabe's responses deal with very specific questions by Gowdy, about specific incidents.

It can be true that the answers to these two, specific questions are "no", and also true that there was other evidence that made McCabe suspicious.

The best resource for this other publicly available evidence is the Special Counsel's report:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

You are now 0 for 3.
 

There was nothing "coulda, wanta, woulda" about Donny Dirtbag, Jr.'s setting up the June 9, 2016 meeting with two Russians who were offering dirt on Clinton ("If it's true, I love it," said Dirtbag, Jr. in an email). Manafort and Jared "Wonder Boy" Kushner were also in attendance. If that isn't seeking cooperation and coordination with foreign agents (one of the Russians is a lawyer very close to Putin) then nothing could be.
 
It's actually quite amazing that you people can pretend admitted criminals who actually plead guilty are really innocent. And the **** you invent to do that is hilarious to behold.

The kind of **** that's in the DoJ filing to the Writ of Mandamus backing up everything I have been posting, yep, hilarious.

Day 2 of all the Democrats on this post playing Srg Schultz because they have all day to post but no way to read 30 pages of PDF.
 
Thank you for taking the time to do this. I know it's work.

Now we can analyze what you referenced. This is where the rubber meets the road

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Didn't you claim that those nice Obama officials at FBI hadn't committed any crimes?

Is altering evidence in order to illegally obtain a FISA warrant a crime?

 
Rice- page 72

Rice's transcript:

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/sr44.pdf


And again, your lie that Obama-era officials said that there was "no" evidence is proven wrong.

You are now 0 for 4.

Yates- page 24-26

Yates:

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/sy57.pdf


You are now 0 for 5.

Your assertion is nothing more than a pathetic propagandistic attempt to defend Trump.

Your assertion that "all" Obama-era officials said there was "no" evidence is a flat-out lie, and you should admit it and then apologize to lying to me and everyone else.
 
It would seem that actually receiving information from Russia about a political opponent would be the greater evil than wanting to receive information from Russia.
If the outrage is genuine, that is.

So, you do admit that Dirtbag did receive aid from Russian IRA hackers (who would order that, I wonder?) right after Your Dear Dirtbag made his "Russia, if you're listening..." appeal for the "missing emails" and later that very night the DNC was hacked. We tired of having to remind you people how your heads would have exploded if there's was even a rumor that a Dem did something like that but we'll keep throwing your massive hypocrisy back in your faces for however long (i.e., eternity) as you continue to deploy it.
 

Every time you post something it reads as though it comes directly from the Lie Vault of the Cult of Dirtbag.
 
You are now 0 for 4.

You are now 0 for 5.

I won't bother pointing out how many 0-fors you are.:lol:

Didn't you lie that Horowitz didn't believe there was any bias in the FBI's work?

 
Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Oh, if you'd only stopped there it would have been the most intelligent comment you'd ever made but you had to spoil it with your usual BS taken from the usual rightwing pukefunnel.
 

Muellar didn't find any evidence of coordination or cooperation with Russia to effect the election. That's why the house quickly switched to Ukraine.
 
the DOJ keeps showing more and more information to be faulty and improper.

This is not true. The DOJ keeps revealing that the investigation as a whole was done largely correctly despite a few mistakes. The Horowitz report is a good example of this as it largely demolished the ridiculous claims of pro-Trump conspiracy theorists. I recall everyone kept saying ooooh just wait for the Horowitz report. ooooh he's gonna blow the lid off the Deep State. What a huge let down that was for them, wasn't it? All these dumb pro-Trump conspiracy theorists felt so stupid the Horowitz report did not reveal some idiotic Deep State conspiracy. Not a peep from them.

LOL not enough evidence means not guilty

I accept this. It's not my argument that Trump and/or his campaign was CERTAINLY guilty of conspiring with Russia.

The argument in this thread by many Trump supporters is that the investigation was not justified.

My argument is that the investigation was justified.
 
So you can't actually bring yourself to read the transcript, eh? So your excuse for technically not lying would be ignorance, then?

Actually I did. Flynn didn't as much as even use the word sanctions in the entire conversation. That's why none of you in the peanut gallery has yet even offered a quote from the transcript to demonstrate your point. You cant.
 
Yet the DOJ keeps undermining that with actual document releases and court filings that show Mueller couldn't find what he was looking for and refused to back down.

What matters is the logic of the argument and the supporting facts.

This appeal to authority on your part -- yet another logical fallacy -- does not in any way persuade me of the veracity of your assertions.

For every Barr and Trump stooge, there are thousands of prosecutors who disagree:

DOJ Alumni Statement on Flynn Case - DOJ Alumni Statement - Medium
 

Yeah, little mistakes like at least two illegal FISA applications and 17 so called "mistakes" that deceived the FISA court.

Altering key evidence in order to get the illegal FISA warrants.

Illegal spying earlier than FBI officials testified before Congress.

Illegal spying not only on a presidential campaign but two years of an actual presidency,.

"All by the book!" claim the Democrats' corrupt dissemblers.
 
Barr disagrees, guess who gets to decide?

I am shocked that you would display an authoritarian sort of attitude with this comment Totally not like a Trump supporter!

Barr has the authority to make executive and policy decisions on behalf of the DOJ as an organization.

Barr does not have the authority to alter the facts or make the facts disappear.

All the executive authority in the universe cannot change the facts. Whatever decisions are made, the facts remain.
 
Muellar didn't find any evidence of coordination or cooperation with Russia to effect the election. That's why the house quickly switched to Ukraine.

You brought up Ukraine, I didn't. But I'm so glad you did because Dirtbag's attempt to involve another foreign government (or any entity connected to a foreign government) in our elections is now a pattern of criminality (and, yes, it is a federal crime to seek or allow foreign interference in U.S. elections). His Ukraine attempt actually reinforces the the evidence of what Dirtbag allowed to go on in the 2016 campaign. Thanks for bolstering the case against your Dear Dirtbag. Donnie Dirtbag makes the mistake many criminals do: if they get away with it they'll always keep doing it. Eventually, they get caught.
 
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When you say "activity they were trying to hide", the implication is that something nefarious or improper was discussed between Flynn and the ambassador,

Here's the thing: the FBI did not need to know with certainty if Flynn was trying to hide something nefarious or improper in order to justify its interview with Flynn. They only needed to suspect that Flynn was trying to hide something.

when you know for a fact there was nothing that was even the least bit suspicious about their discussion.

The FBI decided to interview Flynn AFTER Flynn apparently lied about it to Pence.

Again, here you are trying to defend the FBI's conduct by concocting theories about their motive for interviewing Flynn

I am not concocting theories about their motives for interviewing Flynn. Please read the interviews the FBI conducted with McCord and Strzok.

when their motive for that interview has already been established through an FBI document written by Bill Priestap... a document that you like to ignore because it doesn't jibe with what your saying.

I don't care about Priestap writing down his strategy for the interview. The FBI has pre-interview strategy sessions all the time. The FBI knew Flynn would likely lie to the FBI because Flynn lied to White House officials. It would be ordinary for the FBI to want Flynn to be fired if Flynn were a security threat. It's the job of the FBI to identify and eliminate threats to U.S. national security.

I am quite aware of that, but there's some things about that interview you don't seem to take into account... Some of which don't require any research or reading, just an average amount of common sense and an ability to apply reasoning.

You are suffering from the delusion that investigators must first prove their theory of the case before conducting their investigation.

That is NOT how investigations work.
 
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