Debunking rogue state propaganda: no such thing as Palestine

[Craig234]

 

[ASHES]

After accusing others of partaking in propaganda that disagrees with your views, surely you have not just simply posted propaganda of your views with no commentary?

What on earth could have prompted such a thread I wonder. Perhaps a reminder your position is not exclusivly liberal and the opposite opinion not exclusively conservative.

 

[ASHES]

Here's a clue if you're trying to discern propaganda from reliable media. Reliable sources won't use words like "Zionists" and "triggered" to describe the Israeli people and their supporters. Media like this isn't factual or intended to change minds. It is slop for the already indoctrinated to confirm their biases.

 

[Fledermaus]

Last time I checked the name Palestine came from Syria Palestinia given by the Romans to the territory that was overrun thousands of years ago.

Which was followed by Byzantium, various Muslim dynasties, Crusaders, Sultanates, Mongols, Mamlukes, Ottoman Empire....

Territory. Land. A place.

Not a stand alone nation.

 

[What if...?]

Here's a clue if you're trying to discern propaganda from reliable media. Reliable sources won't use words like "Zionists" and "triggered" to describe the Israeli people and their supporters. Media like this isn't factual or intended to change minds. It is slop for the already indoctrinated to confirm their biases.

Have you ever looked up the Zionist movement in Europe that started in the late 1900s? What their goals were for the holy land? Their plans? Not a conspiracy theory. It’s an actual thing.

And bibis government comes from that school. Following the old plan. Eretz Israel for Jews.

Have you seen the thread with the article from Haaretz?

 

[oneworld2]

After accusing others of partaking in propaganda that disagrees with your views, surely you have not just simply posted propaganda of your views with no commentary?

What on earth could have prompted such a thread I wonder. Perhaps a reminder your position is not exclusivly liberal and the opposite opinion not exclusively conservative.

Well you can speculate from your position of ignorance all you want to BUT you haven't made ANY attempt to challenge the data contained in the video presentation and have likely tried to derail the thread itself with this pathetic and vacuous post that's not even remotely connected to the OP thread theme.

Maybe you should look more at your own game here instead of engaging in off topic speculation?

Are you one of those that don't see Palestine as a state or Palestinians as belonging to that state.

Palestine has past the international numerical threshold to be granted FULL state status some time ago ( 2/3rds) and it's only the US veto that has hobbled their cause at the UN to the point of inertia.

If you look at the map of those who recognizes Palestine and who doesn't you will notice that those opposed to it are over represented by the other settler colonialist states of history.

So, you are a genocide denier and likely the backer of settler colonialist projects and that's not a good look, especially when you are on your soap box about other people here.

 

[Fledermaus]

Well you can speculate from your position of ignorance all you want to BUT you haven't made ANY attempt to challenge the data contained in the video presentation and have likely tried to derail the thread itself with this pathetic and vacuous post that's not even remotely connected to the OP thread theme.

Maybe you should look more at your own game here instead of engaging in off topic speculation?

Are you one of those that don't see Palestine as a state or Palestinians as belonging to that state.

Palestine has past the international numerical threshold to be granted FULL state status some time ago ( 2/3rds) and it's only the US veto that has hobbled their cause at the UN to the point of inertia.

If you look at the map of those who recognizes Palestine and who doesn't you will notice that those opposed to it are over represented by the other settler colonialist states of history.

So, you are a genocide denier and likely the backer of settler colonialist projects and that's not a good look, especially when you are on your soap box about other people here.

So, prior to the current declaration....

When was Palestine an independent and recognized nation.

 

[oneworld2]

Here's a clue if you're trying to discern propaganda from reliable media.

"Reliable media"? That's a massive clue that you have no clue about how the media works in the West.

The ones that sold you Iraqi soldiers throwing Kuwaiti babies in the floor to die so as to steal their incubators. Or that Saddam Hussein was in bed with AQ, Or that he was behind the anthrax attacks in the USA. Or that he was on the verge of nukes ( trending again now and by the same people but this time its Iran )

What about Qaddafi's Viagra " rape armies" ? Or the 40 beheaded babies?

Reliable sources won't use words like "Zionists" and "triggered" to describe the Israeli people and their supporters.

You haven't even tried to debunk ANYTHING in that video as you continue to show your complete naivety regarding media.

I think triggered is a fair usage when it comes to many Israel supporters, especially those who deny the nationalism of the Palestinians and the justness of those who recognize the Palestinian state today

Media like this isn't factual or intended to change minds. It is slop for the already indoctrinated to confirm their biases.

So, show the lies in it ?

Highlight the" slop"?

You don't and won't because you don't know much about this conflict and have just. blindly and out of conditioning, picked a side.

You are actually describing your own positions in the above imo which goes with your other team members, every accusation is actually a confession etc etc

 

[oneworld2]

Have you ever looked up the Zionist movement in Europe that started in the late 1900s? What their goals were for the holy land? Their plans? Not a conspiracy theory. It’s an actual thing.

Why would they bother learning that when they can just vent about people putting it up and making all sorts of claims about the source and comments on a media system they don't even have a basic clue about?

Their posts here have been just standard projection and pathetic accusations about stuff the evidently how no clue about.

 

[Fledermaus]

@oneworld2

Post #7

 

[BogJeSrbin]

There is nothing wrong in saying that Palestine is a fake country. Palestine is as fake a country as Kosovo, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, or Ukraine.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Last time I checked the name Palestine came from Syria Palestinia given by the Romans to the territory that was overrun thousands of years ago.

Which was followed by Byzantium, various Muslim dynasties, Crusaders, Sultanates, Mongols, Mamlukes, Ottoman Empire....

Territory. Land. A place.

Not a stand alone nation.

But there was a land called Palestine, which was referred to as such before America was referred to as America

And Israel did not exist a nation state for more than 2000 years

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

There is nothing wrong in saying that Palestine is a fake country. Palestine is as fake a country as Kosovo, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, or Ukraine.

Canada, US, Germany, Israel, China Japan etc

 

[BogJeSrbin]

Canada, US, Germany, Israel, China Japan etc

There is a difference. The existence of Palestine, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Ukraine all violate either international law or the word of God.

Palestine unilaterally declared independence from Israel so it is an illegal country under international law. The same is true for Kosovo.

But the existence of these fake countries also violates the word of God. God, who is a Serb, detests the existence of fake countries founded upon Balijism (Bosnia) and Islamism (Kosovo, Bosnia, and Palestine); these ideologies wanted to damage the Serbian race and thus a Serbian God would oppose these. Ukraine and Palestine are also run by Nazis, and since the Nazi-aligned Ustase genocided the Serbs, religious law forbids these countries, so Ukraine and Palestine are illegal.

 

[poppopfox]

There is a difference. The existence of Palestine, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Ukraine all violate either international law or the word of God.

Palestine unilaterally declared independence from Israel so it is an illegal country under international law. The same is true for Kosovo.

But the existence of these fake countries also violates the word of God. God, who is a Serb, detests the existence of fake countries founded upon Balijism (Bosnia) and Islamism (Kosovo, Bosnia, and Palestine); these ideologies wanted to damage the Serbian race and thus a Serbian God would oppose these. Ukraine and Palestine are also run by Nazis, and since the Nazi-aligned Ustase genocided the Serbs, religious law forbids these countries, so Ukraine and Palestine are illegal.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

There is a difference. The existence of Palestine, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Ukraine all violate either international law or the word of God.

Palestine unilaterally declared independence from Israel so it is an illegal country under international law. The same is true for Kosovo.

But the existence of these fake countries also violates the word of God. God, who is a Serb, detests the existence of fake countries founded upon Balijism (Bosnia) and Islamism (Kosovo, Bosnia, and Palestine); these ideologies wanted to damage the Serbian race and thus a Serbian God would oppose these. Ukraine and Palestine are also run by Nazis, and since the Nazi-aligned Ustase genocided the Serbs, religious law forbids these countries, so Ukraine and Palestine are illegal.
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But Serbs are a fake people, they can't be gods chosen

 

[BogJeSrbin]

Read “The Hebrew Origin of Serbs” if you want evidence that Serbs are God’s chosen people. Also Deretić makes a good argument as to why Jesus is Serbian.

 

[StillBallin75]

Yeah, none of these arguments are rooted in good faith.

I don't give a shit what the land is called, but it's clear that the argument "there is not a land called Palestine" is not only objectively false, but rooted in a desire to erase people.

 

[StillBallin75]

Read “The Hebrew Origin of Serbs” if you want evidence that Serbs are God’s chosen people. Also Deretić makes a good argument as to why Jesus is Serbian.

Jesus ****ing Christ dude. You fascist ****ing weirdos will say and believe anything.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Read “The Hebrew Origin of Serbs” if you want evidence that Serbs are God’s chosen people. Also Deretić makes a good argument as to why Jesus is Serbian.

The Serbs are a fake people, with a fake country

It should be Yugoslavia, and be run by Croatians

 

[Fledermaus]

There is a difference. The existence of Palestine, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Ukraine all violate either international law or the word of God.

Palestine unilaterally declared independence from Israel so it is an illegal country under international law. The same is true for Kosovo.

But the existence of these fake countries also violates the word of God. God, who is a Serb, detests the existence of fake countries founded upon Balijism (Bosnia) and Islamism (Kosovo, Bosnia, and Palestine); these ideologies wanted to damage the Serbian race and thus a Serbian God would oppose these. Ukraine and Palestine are also run by Nazis, and since the Nazi-aligned Ustase genocided the Serbs, religious law forbids these countries, so Ukraine and Palestine are illegal.

Time to first lie..

Second sentence.

 

[Fledermaus]

Read “The Hebrew Origin of Serbs” if you want evidence that Serbs are God’s chosen people. Also Deretić makes a good argument as to why Jesus is Serbian.

 

[Fledermaus]

Yeah, none of these arguments are rooted in good faith.

I don't give a shit what the land is called, but it's clear that the argument "there is not a land called Palestine" is not only objectively false, but rooted in a desire to erase people.

The is land called Palestine.

There wasn't a nation called Palestine (save for the current situation).

 

[BogJeSrbin]

The is land called Palestine.

There wasn't a nation called Palestine (save for the current situation).

There is still not a real nation called Palestine. Palestine is a fake country.

 

[BogJeSrbin]

The Serbs are a fake people, with a fake country

It should be Yugoslavia, and be run by Croatians

Serbs are the most real ethnic group. Every modern culture can trace its traditions back to Serbian culture. The first ancient civilizations were all Serbian and toponyms prove this.