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My mother was diagnosed with heart disease when she was 50. She died of cancer when she was 87. Your point?
My mother was diagnosed with heart disease when she was 50. She died of cancer when she was 87. Your point?Somebody who was 70-80 with a history of heart disease was going to live another 30 years?
Somebody who was 70-80 with a history of heart disease was going to live another 30 years?
OK. I'll chalk you up as one who is not interested in the real facts.
Didn't you know doctors were leftists?
If only people who have medical conditions that increase their risk of dying are affected, why should the whole nation suffer?
Why not just suggest these people stay isolated, instead of isolating the whole nation? Wouldn't it be better for everyone at risk if we let it run it's contagion course over maybe three months, instead of a year?
Is it really necessary to damage the economy, possibly beyond repair?
If only people who have medical conditions that increase their risk of dying are affected,
If only people who have medical conditions that increase their risk of dying are affected, why should the whole nation suffer?
Why not just suggest these people stay isolated, instead of isolating the whole nation? Wouldn't it be better for everyone at risk if we let it run it's contagion course over maybe three months, instead of a year?
Is it really necessary to damage the economy, possibly beyond repair?
It could be six months, it's still a coronavirus death.
Let's see, with the precautions we are taking so far in three months over twenty thousand deaths. Now let's imagine we do nothing and everyone just goes about their business. My guess, there would have been well over two hundred thousand deaths and the frigging economy would be wrecked anyway. Happy now?
I doubt that would have happened since it has been determined many people have almost no symptoms who have contracted it. Besides, your number is only three times higher than the 2017-2018 flu season deaths.
To bad you aren't giving flu related deaths the same concern.
Uh, what? Influenza does not have some different set of criteria when it comes to determining cause of death.
What do you expect, even in a flu season, with a population density of 15,207 per sq. km?
The problem with you alarmist types, is you have no past history statistics to base this on. You just listen to the hype from the media and politicians.
I only have so many hours in a day and would like those interested in truth to assist me if they would be so kind. Most of you already know that the federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone's life.
Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force, said the federal government is continuing to count the suspected COVID-19 deaths, despite other nations doing the opposite. Here is the link:
Birx says government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as '''COVID-19''' deaths, regardless of cause | Fox News
I don't want to make this OP overly long by rehashing the link, but suffice to say that they are just taking the word of the doctors all over the United States that a death was due to COVID-19 and are assuming that tests are being done and say that they understand autopsies probably aren't being conducted. So, ANY preexisting condition is ignored. If someone is in their late 70s or 80s and has been in and out of the hospital for decades is brought into the emergency room, he or she is apparently automatically listed as having died from the Corona Visis, aka: WuFlu. Hospitals are empty of regular patients. Apparently people are deciding NOT to die right now from heart attacks, strokes, kidney disease because they want to save the hospital beds for COVID-19 patients.
I went to the CDC site and it isn't much help, either. Their site is just for guidance and not binding. No one will check to see if a patient really died from the WuFlu or something else. It appears that as long as there was the slightest hint of the WuFlu they encourage the doctor to show it that way.
COVID-19 Guidance Postmortem Specimens | CDC
Thus, it would appear that the numbers are blown up for COVID-19 but what I want to know is by how much? Some sites suggest that if these preexisting conditions weren't included (like other countries DON'T include) the ACTUAL deaths directly attributed to the WuFlu would be HALF what they are showing or less.
What I would like the readers to do is to research this and see if I am right or off base here. Can we find out for instance, how many LESS deaths are being reported now for regular diseases like kidney failure, stoke, diabetes, obesity, lung disease, cancer? Is that information available anywhere? Thanks for your help. I appreciate it. This valuable research could be utilized to examine the actual extent of the problem so that all of us can be guided accordingly. eg., the death rate is show at 18,000 but is it really 9,000 or 7,000 or ?
Where was the media hype?
Do you have any clue about ARSA? Have you ever taken care of an ARDS patient? If not, shut up. You are welcome to report me, I can handle the points.
I doubt that would have happened since it has been determined many people have almost no symptoms who have contracted it. Besides, your number is only three times higher than the 2017-2018 flu season deaths.
My mother was diagnosed with heart disease when she was 50. She died of cancer when she was 87. Your point?
The problem with you alarmist types
President Trump obviously is one or the country would be back at work.
This alternate reality is gonna be similar the the MSM one (where Fox and all the Republicans are not part of the MSM). Already this reality has only "liberals" doing shutdowns, social distancing, etc. The dishonesty is never a surprise.
That wasn't the question. The death rate for those who contract the WuFlu is over 80% for those over 65. All of you are ignoring this fact. It is not the right way to calculate the death rate the way America is doing it. More on this later. But, this has been discussed. What it REALLY is and rather unfortunately, is a psychosis among the left driven by MSM.
The left WANTS more deaths ATTRIBUTED to this virus to damage Trump. THAT is the reason I/we are having so much dissension on how the death rate is figured. There is NO other reason.
Didn't you know doctors were leftists?
This is why I asked for assistance on this matter which I feel is of the utmost importance. Just think. If our group cracked the code, so to speak, and came up with the REAL totals of WuFlu deaths, we would go down in history.
Is he suppose to override the states rights?
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