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Dearborn anti-Kamala fools played themselves, final chapter

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There's no hope whatsoever that Kamala Harris, as President, would allow this. Only truly insane people think that she would.

Congratulations, Dearborn anti-Kamala brigade, you screwed Palestinians over by sitting the election out.

Remember:


Biden signed a peace deal to end this shit. And then Trump green-lit more Israeli bombardments and crapped all over Biden's deal.

So much for the "Kamala would have kept the bombings going" nonsense.
 
Gee, sounds like the Biden Harris administration should have taken any meaningful stance to oppose Israel instead of happily supporting the mass murder campaign

Given they didn’t, the pretense that they would tolerate such a campaign is laughable
 
This is completely insane and fact-free. At this point you're arguing that gravity is upside-down.
 
This is completely insane and fact-free. At this point you're arguing that gravity is upside-down.
The Biden administration continued to send weaponry to Israel throughout its time in power.

Despite knowing full well the scale of the Israeli mass murder campaign.

Kamala Harris refused to differentiate herself from said decisions; and it cost her the election.

Hardly a shock.
 
Stupid position.

You faulted the lessor of two evils and got the worse of the two.

Sad so many are paying the price.

Will you ever learn?
 
Stupid position.

You faulted the lessor of two evils and got the worse of the two.

Sad so many are paying the price.

Will you ever learn?
The Democrats failed pathetically to show themselves to be “the lesser of two evils”

Going “trust us we totally are” while proudly helping Israel do the exact same thing speaks volumes
 
There's no hope whatsoever that Kamala Harris, as President, would allow this
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Israel is a sovereign nation, not ruled by the U.S.
Biden signed a peace deal to end this shit
No he didn't. He promoted a truce, a temporary end to hostilities.
 
That crappy analysis got you a president far worse then the Democrat..

The fact that you dont comprehend that should be emberassing.
The Democrats refused to oppose the Israeli mass murder campaign in any meaningful way, so that’s clearly not true
 
What am I missing? What does any of this have to do with Dearborn?
 
The Democrats refused to oppose the Israeli mass murder campaign in any meaningful way, so that’s clearly not true
Of course its true.

You know damn well on the Israel/Palestine issue Trump is way, way worse then Harris.

And people like you, with your illogical as l analysis, contributed to getting the worse possible candidate elected.

Its costing lives.

You should be ashamed as med of yourselves.
 
Yeah because those palestinians in Gaza were victims of their own choices. They elected Hamas to run Gaza. Hamas didn't do a thing to help Gazans. They took what funds were available and used them for terrorism instead of using them to help the Gazans/.
 
The Biden Harris admin failed to prove that.

On any level.

Instead they smugly kept sending weapons to Israel, confident “but Trump” would excuse their bad behavior.

And failed miserably as a result.
 
Nothing you said has a shred of basis in fact. At this point you're just lying for effect.

Biden negotiated a cease fire that was supposed to end this. You chose poorly.

Hamas did what America would have done had we been in Palestine's shoes.

Actually, no, we would have nuked Israel entirely to slag had we been in Palestine's shoes.

The Biden Harris admin failed to prove that.

On any level.

Instead they smugly kept sending weapons to Israel, confident “but Trump” would excuse their bad behavior.

And failed miserably as a result.
And now, unlike under Harris, Gaza is about to be conquered - aka exterminated entirely.

Congrats, you ****ed yourselves over based on your flagrant lies about "sending weapons to Israel" when in reality Biden negotiated a cease-fire to end this crap.
 

Those leopards just keep finding faces to eat.
 
The Biden Harris admin failed to prove that.
I'm talking about you.

You know for a fact that Trump was way way worse than Harris would haveidiot.


Don't lie and say you didn't know that, you are not an idoot.

yet you helped the worse guy get elected.

its idiotic.
 
I'm talking about you.

You know for a fact that Trump was way way worse than Harris would have been


Don't lie and say you didn't know that, you are not an idoot.

yet you helped the worse guy get elected.

its idiotic.
 
The Democrats failed pathetically to show themselves to be “the lesser of two evils”

Going “trust us we totally are” while proudly helping Israel do the exact same thing speaks volumes
"The Democrats failed pathetically to show themselves to be “the lesser of two evils”" but yet they are.
 
Those are human beings, regardless.
 
Yeah because those palestinians in Gaza were victims of their own choices.
no they are victims of Israel's choices.

quit infantilizing Israel.
They elected Hamas to run Gaza.

only 8% of the people alive in Gaza voted for Hamas.

stop repeating that grotesque lie.
Hamas didn't do a thing to help Gazans.
nope.


They took what funds were available and used them for terrorism instead of using them to help the Gazans/.
Yeah Hamas sucks.

Now move past that painfully obvious non sequitur and deal with Israel's slaughter of children.
 
What am I missing? What does any of this have to do with Dearborn?

this

and more generally...

this

Muslims / Arabs in US voted for this. They chose what was obviously the most anti-Muslim option. By far. It was clear but they chose it. They must have wanted it because nothing else makes sense. So they should enjoy what's happening now.
 
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All of the positions taken in this thread lack nuance and a clear understanding of what happened in American foreign policy during this war, and why.
Joe Biden made the biggest mistake of his presidency and completely miscalculated his influence with Netanyahu. Bills were passed with military aid packages and no strings attached and once they were signed into law, those weapons were going in a series of shipments regardless of Biden's opinions of the way Bibi ran his war. Congress is not going to buy strings and attach them to their own aid packages later. By the time Biden realizes he had thrown away his clout, the 2024 elections were upon us, and Harris was in an almost impossible political position. Harris and a variety of Dems need the Jewish vote, and she needs the muslim vote in Michigan.

Biden is desperate to get that food to flow and a ceasefire, (he has some limited success there) get American hostages released, stop a broader middle east conflict, and at least appear to retain relevance and credibility while Netanyahu makes it more and more clear, he'd rather wait and work with Trump, who has committed to 100% support of his most brazen and aggressive war plans.

IMO, neither Biden nor Harris would have continued to sign any more bills for more aid to Israel or supported these draconian acts like Trump would and will, but the aid that was already in the fiscal pipeline from the budget bills already passed .... its already a done deal.

Biden was guilty of being naive and foolish. Harris is guilty of needing a lot of votes that were hidden between a rock and a very hard place.
 
Ah, so those dang Muslims didn’t vote in what you consider the right way! How dare they!!!!!
 
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