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Day 6 testimony ( Monday 7/1)

Grim17 said:
Back to this dishonest BS again???? You people never get tired of twisting and misinterpreting a persons words to try and prop up your beliefs, do you?

Since there's only a matter of days left before this topic gets tossed into the dust bin of history, why not adopt the honest approach, knock off the BS, and allow your beliefs to stand or fall on their own merit? I mean what the hell, it's only for a week or 2 and you never know, you might actually learn to like it?
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Lots of personal attacks, nothing on the fact Zimmerman said it does not sound like him.

Stop running from the truth, the truth being Zimmerman said it does not sound like him.
 
Dapper Andy said:
I have to really question if you're actually going by the facts presented in this case or what you want the facts to me.

The defense hasn't called a single witness yet and I think it's so overwhelmingly in their favor that they might as well not.

As discussed earlier, I think the judge would find him not guilty when the prosecution rests if not for the political issue.
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The judge huh? :lol:
 
JackFrost said:
Lots of personal attacks, nothing on the fact Zimmerman said it does not sound like him.

Stop running from the truth, the truth being Zimmerman said it does not sound like him.
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Most people don't think their own voices sound like themselves.
 
JackFrost said:
The judge huh? :lol:
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Motion for a directed verdict

A "motion for a directed verdict" asks the court to rule that the plaintiff or prosecutor has not proven the case, and there is no need for the defense to attempt to present evidence. This motion is made after the plaintiff has rested its case, and prior to the defense presenting any evidence. If granted, the court would dismiss the case.:cool:
 
JackFrost said:
How so?
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The standard for justification of lethal force in self defense is a reasonable cause to believe that you are in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death. There is no requirement that you be seriously injured before you can have that reasonable belief. The reasons for that are fairly practical and common sense since many people couldn't readily identify the extent of their injuries at the time they are received. That is....it would be unreasonable for a person who is being assaulted to seek a professional medical opinion before they are justified in believing that they are in serious danger.
 
Jack Hays said:
Motion for a directed verdict

A "motion for a directed verdict" asks the court to rule that the plaintiff or prosecutor has not proven the case, and there is no need for the defense to attempt to present evidence. This motion is made after the plaintiff has rested its case, and prior to the defense presenting any evidence. If granted, the court would dismiss the case.:cool:
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George Zimmerman will not do that. Per Mark O'Mara, he wants to be acquitted by a jury of his peers. It is the reason Mark O'Mara gave for not going through a SYG hearing.

It is wishful thinking on your part.
 
JackFrost said:
George Zimmerman will not do that. Per Mark O'Mara, he wants to be acquitted by a jury of his peers. It is the reason Mark O'Mara gave for not going through a SYG hearing.

It is wishful thinking on your part.
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A directed verdict of not guilty is an acquittal.
 
Lutherf said:
The standard for justification of lethal force in self defense is a reasonable cause to believe that you are in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death. There is no requirement that you be seriously injured before you can have that reasonable belief. The reasons for that are fairly practical and common sense since many people couldn't readily identify the extent of their injuries at the time they are reiceived. That is....it would be unreasonable for a person who is being assaulted to seek a professional medical opinion before they are justified in believing that they are in serious danger.
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So regardless if GZ had a broken nose or not, it would be irrelevant to his belief of great bodily harm and/or death, proving that my question can be answered with a single word and not affect his belief. He never stated he would die from a broken nose, or any other injury.
 
JackFrost said:
So regardless if GZ had a broken nose or not, it would be irrelevant to his belief of great bodily harm and/or death, proving that my question can be answered with a single word and not affect his belief. He never stated he would die from a broken nose, or any other injury.
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You seem to be focused on semantics instead of the discussion of what is and is not relevant to a proper defense of self defense. If your choice is to discuss definitions of words then you are correct but such a discussion, as I have said repeatedly, is immaterial to the matter under discussion in this thread.
 
JackFrost said:
Here in America, a jury determines guilt, not the judge.
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Half baked story

There are instances where, a judge weighs the facts and agrees or does not agree with, the defendant

No jury, the judge decides
 
JackFrost said:
Not true today as ever. No evidence exists of such. It is a myth created and perpetuated by George Zimmerman supporters last year 2012. In 2011, people recognized their own voice.
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Only people who hear their own voice recorded regularly enough to know.

When I first started watching/listening to my MVR recordings as a police officer, I had a hard time believing I sounded the way I did.....

I got used to it.
 
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