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Darwin's Doubt

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A good discussion about Charles Darwin.

Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

This is presented by Stanford University at Palo Alto, CA ... Filmed in Italy

 
A good discussion about Charles Darwin.

Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

This is presented by Stanford University at Palo Alto, CA ... Filmed in Italy



I've been wondering if random mutations could account for evolution.

Seems consciousness might have something to do with the re-arrangement of molecules in the DNA.
 
A good discussion about Charles Darwin.

Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

This is presented by Stanford University at Palo Alto, CA ... Filmed in Italy



The video is 50 minutes, which is about 45 minutes more time than I have to spare. So how about summarizing it so I can tell if it is worth a watch at some later point.
 
I've been wondering if random mutations could account for evolution.
Congratulations. You've just described Darwin's theory! Random mutations, which remain inherited through natural selection.

Seems consciousness might have something to do with the re-arrangement of molecules in the DNA.
Alright, now you're reaching further than I wanna' go ...
 
The video is 50 minutes, which is about 45 minutes more time than I have to spare. So how about summarizing it so I can tell if it is worth a watch at some later point.
/wonders if natural selection applies to DP threads
 
A good discussion about Charles Darwin.

Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

This is presented by Stanford University at Palo Alto, CA ... Filmed in Italy

Evolution is a theory, just like gravity is a theory. Do you doubt the theory of gravity?
 
Evolution is a theory, just like gravity is a theory. Do you doubt the theory of gravity?

I do not recall them discussing gravity.

Gravity is based on proof. Darwins has major flaws. But you realize that.

The course of a object in space can be predicted by Newtons Theories yet for evolution, there is no predictability I know of. If you know of a predictability, enlighten me.
 
The video is 50 minutes, which is about 45 minutes more time than I have to spare. So how about summarizing it so I can tell if it is worth a watch at some later point.

I have to return to the video and listen to them talking again. I laid down listening and napped. I recall hearing a very good discussion for probably half an hour.

What I recall that I hope is accurate is that Darwin said things as if he made them up. Some of his claims make sense but not all of them. This is due they think to him not having the advantage of modern tools like DNA, Electron Microscopes and a lot more. Time passed him by.

But I hope that is fair to the video. Why do Democrats persist in seeking others to watch videos for them? This is so common for Democrats I am having to believe they are short attention people who have no curiosity.

I have said many times myself that evolution only means change. Evolution does not explain much if anything to us. A baby proves change if you study children. As the child grows, it is not normally a twin of either parent.

These men spoke quite a bit about the Cambrian explosion. Most people are virtually in the dark about the period and ramifications.

I want to offer links but fear I will be asked to read them to particular posters. But here is one. Cambrian explosion - Wikipedia
 
I've been wondering if random mutations could account for evolution.

Seems consciousness might have something to do with the re-arrangement of molecules in the DNA.

Darwin had no understanding of DNA. Actually for a theory, it is pretty sketchy. Were it solid, it would be hailed as the explanaton that works.
 
I do not recall them discussing gravity.

Gravity is based on proof. Darwins has major flaws. But you realize that.

The course of a object in space can be predicted by Newtons Theories yet for evolution, there is no predictability I know of. If you know of a predictability, enlighten me.

Before I decide whether this is worth engaging much time in, let's do a simple test: Define evolution.
 
Before I decide whether this is worth engaging much time in, let's do a simple test: Define evolution.

I am surprised you need me to explain it. But alas, make it simple and not engage in explanations. Change

A good example of evolution is the child. The child is different than the two parents.
 
I am surprised you need me to explain it.

No need for the sass, a lot of evolution deniers don't even know what evolution is.

But alas, make it simple and not engage in explanations. Change

A good example of evolution is the child. The child is different than the two parents.

That is an example of reproduction, not biological evolution. Try again. :)
 
No need for the sass, a lot of evolution deniers don't even know what evolution is.



That is an example of reproduction, not biological evolution. Try again. :)

No, I am correct. It is not reproduction since I called out not reproduction, burt the change from the parents to their child.

Look, I assure you the three men answering this in the video are experts on the topic.

A stunted mind is really not a mind is it? Stunted minds do not get more education from videos.

????????????? back to you. Given those 3 men answered questions, why did you seek me to answer for them?

I love original sources rather than some poster blabbing to me what the video was all about.
 
No, I am correct. It is not reproduction since I called out not reproduction, burt the change from the parents to their child.

You are not doing a good job of proving that you know what evolution is.

Look, I assure you the three men answering this in the video are experts on the topic.

As Redress said, how about you summarize that long video so that I can decide whether it is worth my time to watch.

A stunted mind is really not a mind is it? Stunted minds do not get more education from videos.
:lamo

And here come the personal attacks. A clear sign of a failing argument.

????????????? back to you. Given those 3 men answered questions, why did you seek me to answer for them?

Asked and answered.

I love original sources rather than some poster blabbing to me what the video was all about.

HAHAHAHA, if that were true you would have accepted evolution a long time ago. :)
 
Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution

The mathematical challenge to evolution assumes evolution is completely random. It is not because there is natural selection.

I do not recall them discussing gravity.

Gravity is based on proof. Darwins has major flaws. But you realize that.

The course of a object in space can be predicted by Newtons Theories yet for evolution, there is no predictability I know of. If you know of a predictability, enlighten me.

Evolution predicts hominid fossils, which we find. It predicts an ordered fossil record, which we find. Evolution predicts we should share retrovirus DNA with apes, which we find.
 
You are not doing a good job of proving that you know what evolution is.



As Redress said, how about you summarize that long video so that I can decide whether it is worth my time to watch.


:lamo

And here come the personal attacks. A clear sign of a failing argument.



Asked and answered.



HAHAHAHA, if that were true you would have accepted evolution a long time ago. :)

Creationists cant even define what a kind is. They give vague references to something that doesnt make much sense but never define it.
 
Congratulations. You've just described Darwin's theory! Random mutations, which remain inherited through natural selection.

Alright, now you're reaching further than I wanna' go ...

Well, my next President will certainly be a rapist, so I'll have at ya.

(Come on honey).

It's not that far really.

It's not an abstract idea.

Fish is trying to get away and swims up on the shore and realizes the other land and is thinking, "If only I had,..."

The fish is eaten, or survives to pass its molecules on to its species directly, who survive on nutrients excreted from predators feeding on the species, so small changes toward the goal of evolution, in this case to breath and walk on land, are sought out and define the demeanor of the species.

I'm not saying consciousness created the first cell.

The first cell may have been random and consciousness arose from it, but simultaneously three things are true, or seven or four etc.
 
I am surprised you need me to explain it. But alas, make it simple and not engage in explanations. Change

A good example of evolution is the child. The child is different than the two parents.

No.

Here is a simple explanation of evolution: the result of probability over time.
 
The mathematical challenge to evolution assumes evolution is completely random. It is not because there is natural selection.



Evolution predicts hominid fossils, which we find. It predicts an ordered fossil record, which we find. Evolution predicts we should share retrovirus DNA with apes, which we find.

You did not watch the video. So easy to tell.
 
Actually, change over time. And specifically a change of the population of a species, not a change of an individual (as it grows and matures, etc.).

A good example of evolution is the child. The child is different than the two parents.
No, because that's not a population of species, it's an individual. Perhaps a better example is dark skin from more equatorial regions vs. pale skin from more polar regions.
 
You did not watch the video. So easy to tell.

I did. Evolution has no mathematical problem. You obviously don't understand what science is about as I will show.

Gravity is based on proof. ... The course of a object in space can be predicted by Newtons Theories

A confirmed prediction isn't proof, it is only evidence for a theory. A theory is a hypothesis with many confirmed predictions and is highly likely to be true. Also, the t

Darwins has major flaws. ... yet for evolution, there is no predictability I know of. If you know of a predictability, enlighten me.

The theory of gravity was wrong about Mercury's orbit. This was something that the theory of relativity explained. While the theory of gravity isn't perfect, it works for most situations.

The theory of evolution makes many predictions about the fossil record, our DNA, and morphology that have been confimed. We have for example found numerous transitional fossils between humans and apes. We have also found that we share retrovirus DNA with apes.

What I recall that I hope is accurate is that Darwin said things as if he made them up. Some of his claims make sense but not all of them. This is due they think to him not having the advantage of modern tools like DNA, Electron Microscopes and a lot more. Time passed him by.

Darwin had no understanding of DNA. Actually for a theory, it is pretty sketchy. Were it solid, it would be hailed as the explanaton that works.

Darwin's original theory was a good start and while not perfect gave us the general idea of common descent and natural selection. We have improved on his ideas and the theory of evolution today is far more accurate than the theory in 1860. He knew that animals were changing from generation to generation, but he didn't know about genetics and mutations. But he came to the right conclusion of common descent with much less knowledge than we have today which is incredible and shows his genius.

I have said many times myself that evolution only means change. Evolution does not explain much if anything to us. A baby proves change if you study children. As the child grows, it is not normally a twin of either parent.

No, evolution is a very specific type of change from mutations from generation to generation. With enough generations, the number of mutation differences will be vast.

These men spoke quite a bit about the Cambrian explosion. Most people are virtually in the dark about the period and ramifications.

I want to offer links but fear I will be asked to read them to particular posters. But here is one. Cambrian explosion - Wikipedia

We still haven't uncovered most of the fossil record and transitionals for the cambrian explosion could be out there in some cave deep down in the earth. 99.99% of the fossil record remains undiscovered. Also, if the ancestors of these creatures were soft-bodied, it would be very difficult for them to fossilize. So the cambrian explosion may not have been an explosion and may have been much slower, we just don't have the transitional fossils yet. And even if it was an explosion, it happened over millions of years, and humans evolved over 6 million years, so millions of years is enough time. An imperfect fossil record doesn't refute evolution.
 
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