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Cuba Expert: Obama Might Give Guantanamo to Russians

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Cuba Expert: Obama Might Give Guantanamo to Russians
Obama Might Give Guantanamo to Russians, Cuba Expert Tells Newsmax TV

By Sean Piccoli
January 29 20125

President Barack Obama's eagerness to cut deals with Cuba at almost any cost could yield a "strategic disaster" in which the Russian military winds up controlling Guantanamo Bay, Cuba scholar Jaime Suchlicki told "MidPoint" host Ed Berliner on Newsmax TV Thursday.
The historic re-start of diplomatic and economic ties with Cuba ordered by Obama does not alter the fact that the communist nation's rulers neither want nor feel they need improved relations with the United States, said Suchlicki, director of the Cuban Institute at the University of Miami.

"Just look at all the demands issued by Cuban leader Raul Castro," said Suchlicki: a handover of Guantanamo Bay; embargo reparations to the tune of $2.5 trillion, and no U.S. "interference" in Cuban policies at home or abroad.

"If they were INTERESTED in helping the Cuban people they would've done a deal with the United States many years ago," said Suchlicki. "Neither [previous Cuban leader] Fidel [Castro] nor Raul are really interested in better relations with the United States."

"The Castros want concessions, not relations," he said, and Raul is "raising the bar so high that he's going to preclude any normalization."
How much Obama will indulge him should be a concern, said Suchlicki, alluding to a prisoner swap that freed Cuban spies — a deal that even Hillary Clinton said she opposed as Obama's Secretary of State.

On reparations, "Raul Castro is talking about $50 billion for the 50 years of the embargo," said Suchlicki, adding, "that's nonsense, and I don't think the U.S. will pay that."

But on another key demand, "giving away Guantanamo — this president is liable to do that," he said of Obama.
Castro, in turn, would "probably" turn the territory over to Russia as a naval base.

Pressed by Berliner on this scenario, with its overtones of the Cuban missile crisis, Suchlicki said, "I don't know what the president can get away with," meaning the political limits, if any, on Obama's willingness to placate Castro.

"My concern is that Guantanamo is one of the deepest bases in the Caribbean — ideal for submarines," he said. "And if Cuba were to turn that base [over] to the Russians, or tell the Russians that they can use that base, it would be a strategic disaster for the United States."
From Cuba's point of view, shunning the U.S. despite the overture from Obama after a half century of mutual hostility is not a tactical mistake, said Suchlicki.

"The point here is that [former Cuban leader] Fidel Castro is an ally of Venezuela, Iran, Russia and China," he said. "So for Cuba, the United States is not important. What is important is the [connection] with those countries that provide significant amounts of aid without any condition and without requesting anything."

Between the money Cuba brings in from tourism, remittances from Cubans working abroad and a thriving export market for Cuba's well-regarded medical professionals, the Castro brothers are convinced they can still CONTINUE on as they please, and maintain absolute political control, no matter what the U.S. says, said Suchlicki.
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Giving Guantanamo back to the Castroit regime is something that cannot be done by executive order without a new law or approval by the Senate. That doesn't mean that Obama will try to do it.

Obama problem now is that the checks and balances of Congress can work since the Legislative Branch is now control by the Republicans. He will go around Congress and use his Executive Order trying to go as far as he can.
 
Giving Guantanamo back to the Castroit regime is something that cannot be done by executive order without a new law or approval by the Senate. That doesn't mean that Obama will try to do it.

Obama problem now is that the checks and balances of Congress can work since the Legislative Branch is now control by the Republicans. He will go around Congress and use his Executive Order trying to go as far as he can.

Why in the world would anybody think of turning over Guantanamo to the Cubans? They are a hostile dictatorship, after all.
 
Why in the world would anybody think of turning over Guantanamo to the Cubans? They are a hostile dictatorship, after all.
In all seriousness, we should turn Cuba into a US territory for a while, and then into a state.
 
In all seriousness, we should turn Cuba into a US territory for a while, and then into a state.



In all seriousness, that's not going to happen.

What are you smoking? :roll:
 
In all seriousness, we should turn Cuba into a US territory for a while, and then into a state.

We should have allowed it to become a Territory long ago. But think of Puerto Rico. We have not allowed them to enter the Union either.
 
In all seriousness, that's not going to happen.

What are you smoking? :roll:

No. It probably will not happen. That does not make it wrong though. I think we probably should have allowed the Puerto Ricans in, when they wanted to join too.
 
The chance of the RUSSIANS taking over Gitmo is zero-point-zero.
 
The chance of the RUSSIANS taking over Gitmo is zero-point-zero.
Obama is determined not only to release the Islamic terrorists but to shut down Guantanamo base. Turning Guantanamo over to the Russian as a naval base by Castro II will be extremely dangerous for the US.
 
We should have allowed it to become a Territory long ago. But think of Puerto Rico. We have not allowed them to enter the Union either.

What??? They don't WANT to be a state, they like this middle ground, all the freebies, none of the ****.
 
Raul Castro II has demanded the return of Guantanamo Base. Already Russia is using Cuba bays as a base for its military spy ships. The regime receive economic assistance from Russia, which already has write off 90% of the debt, and if Putin as for a naval base in Guantanamo, Raul Castro II will agree to it.
 
According to a Pravda article in Jan 30, 3015, “Naval base in Cuba would be Russia’s best response to US hawks”, is already in the working. Russian Ambassador Alexander Yakovenko said: “I believe that Russia’s best response to US hawks and its allies would be to open a Russian naval base in Cuba.” If Guantanamo is returned to the Castroit regime it will be the best choice to establish its naval base. Link: Naval base in Cuba would be Russia's best response to US hawks - English pravda.ru
 
Already on February 26, 2014, The Washington Times reported that a Russian spy ship docked in the port of Havana, Cuba.
Link: Russian spy ship docked in Communist Cuba - Washington Times

And on January 21, 2015, ABC News reported of another Russian spy ship docking in Havana Port. Link: Russian Spy Ship's Arrival in Cuba Raises Eyebrows - ABC News

On January 20, Obama talk about to lift the Cuba embargo, on the 21 his team arrived in the island for talks about establishing normal relation, the same day the spy ship arrived in Havana.

Seems that the ship has come to meet the high ranking Obama delegation when they arrive. Great timing for Russia to do that. The Russian are coming, the Russian are coming.
 
In all seriousness, we should turn Cuba into a US territory for a while, and then into a state.

Their refusal to let us own them is part of the reason we hate them so much.
 
Giving Guantanamo back to the Castroit regime is something that cannot be done by executive order without a new law or approval by the Senate. That doesn't mean that Obama will try to do it.

Obama problem now is that the checks and balances of Congress can work since the Legislative Branch is now control by the Republicans. He will go around Congress and use his Executive Order trying to go as far as he can.

I wouldn't be surprised if that pencil-necked Napoleon would try to bypass Congress to fulfill a campaign promise.
 
It's silly of me to expect the government to actually solve a problem, I know.

There is a difference in closing the detention center on Gitmo and giving the base back to Cuba. The base is not a problem...that I have heard.
 
The thread is giving the base back...so your post was off topic.

Giving the base back is horse****. So he's expanding his promise. Still he's a ****ing pencil-neck.
 
I see the possibility of the US closing Guantanamo and turning back over the Cubans and then the Cubans turning it over to the Russians as more probable, just to be yet more of a thorn in the side of the US. Yes, geopolitics can be that petty.
 
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