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Cruz's Lie

:shrug: I don't know what their intent is. I do know that Hillary Clinton broke major federal laws, that she apparently broke them more than a thousand times, and that she belongs in prison more than she belongs in the White House.

Mrs. Clinton and Senator Cruz are crossed off my list of potentials before March 1. At this this rate I will have to write in a candidate. There all so useless, and only care about ideology and there political careers. Term limits across the board for all elected public officials.
 
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The amusing aspect of this is that the same leftwingers who are now showing such sympathy for Carson were just several weeks ago treating him as the devil of hades, when he appeared to be the front runner. Now that Cruz is leading, they now want to knock him down.

When a foundation of belief is anchored in emotional water vapor, it is probably difficult to know what one is supposed to be thinking from one day to another.
 
Yup

Conservatives are sure quiet on Cruz's stunt, I guess they don't mind there candidates lying directly into a camera, but Cruz is a lawyer, I would not expect anything else from the ambulance chaser.

He says one thing, but does another.

As a Lawyer, Ted Cruz Defended Huge Jury Awards. As a Politician, He Opposed Them. | Mother Jones

I don't know why you say "Conservatives are sure quiet on Cruz's stunt." If you're talking about this thread, they've participated on every page. If you're talking about conservatives in general, then you need to read beyond Mother Jones if you want to know what conservatives are saying. ;)

Begin with National Review and MRC (Media Research Center). Check out the blogs too--Red State, Powerline, and Conservative Treehouse.

From a quick Google:

Ted Cruz Schools ABC on ?Dirty Trick? Claim

Ben Carson blasts Ted Cruz camp for 'dirty tricks' in Iowa - Washington Times

EXCLUSIVE - Ben Carson: Ted Cruz’s ‘Dirty Tricks’ To Affect Primary Voters - Breitbart

Ted Cruz Needs to Fire Someone for the ?Dirty Tricks? Used Against Ben Carson | TheBlaze.com

Ted Cruz Needs to Fire Someone for the ?Dirty Tricks? Used Against Ben Carson | TheBlaze.com
 
I don't know why you say "Conservatives are sure quiet on Cruz's stunt." If you're talking about this thread, they've participated on every page. If you're talking about conservatives in general, then you need to read beyond Mother Jones if you want to know what conservatives are saying. ;)

Begin with National Review and MRC (Media Research Center). Check out the blogs too--Red State, Powerline, and Conservative Treehouse.

From a quick Google:



Ted Cruz Schools ABC on ?Dirty Trick? Claim

Ben Carson blasts Ted Cruz camp for 'dirty tricks' in Iowa - Washington Times

EXCLUSIVE - Ben Carson: Ted Cruz’s ‘Dirty Tricks’ To Affect Primary Voters - Breitbart

Ted Cruz Needs to Fire Someone for the ?Dirty Tricks? Used Against Ben Carson | TheBlaze.com

Ted Cruz Needs to Fire Someone for the ?Dirty Tricks? Used Against Ben Carson | TheBlaze.com

Keep it coming lol Minus the sarcasm, it detracts from your argument.
 
Mrs. Clinton and Senator Cruz are crossed off my list of potentials before March 1. At this this rate I will have to write in a candidate. There all so useless, and only care about ideology and there political careers. Term limits across the board for all elected public officials.

Well I'm fine if they care about their ideology - in fact, I prefer it. In fact, that's what I like about Cruz.
 
Giving Cruz a free pass ? I hope you do the same for the candidates on the other side.

I for one will not vote for the guy in 2018.

I'm not voting for any of them in 2018. I do tend to procrastinate sometimes, but that's ridiculous.
 
:shrug: I long ago decided to be an ideologue (someone who defends ideas) rather than a partisan (someone who defends a political "side"). Rubio is my preferred candidate in this primary, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to sacrifice my integrity for him.

Good.

We need fewer partisans rooting for their chosen team without regard to the issues.

As for Rubio, one thing that concerns me about him is his call for a "new American century." That has echoes of the past, it seems to me. What do you make of it?
 
I'm not voting for any of them in 2018. I do tend to procrastinate sometimes, but that's ridiculous.

Hey, as long as he votes for the most conservative person in the race in 2016, I care less what he does in 2018 :D
 
Good.

We need fewer partisans rooting for their chosen team without regard to the issues.

As for Rubio, one thing that concerns me about him is his call for a "new American century." That has echoes of the past, it seems to me. What do you make of it?

I like it - I think that the American people respond more to aspiration than they do to depression. One of my critiques of the Democrats is the way that they've been in charge for the last 7 years, and yet, according to their campaigns, everything sucks.
 
I like it - I think that the American people respond more to aspiration than they do to depression. One of my critiques of the Democrats is the way that they've been in charge for the last 7 years, and yet, according to their campaigns, everything sucks.

Are you sure you like it? If he means a time of prosperity for America, that's one thing, but the New American Century was a call for the US to impose a pax americana on the rest of the world by force of arms. It was what led to the war in Iraq. The People for a New American Century (PNAC) was an idea espoused by Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz.

If Rubio really means that he wants the US to step up its world cop activities, then I'm not in favor of making him the CIC, are you?
 
Keep it coming lol Minus the sarcasm, it detracts from your argument.

The only argument I've put forth is that you need to read conservative sources in addition to Mother Jones if you want to know what conservatives are talking about. You claimed that they've all been quiet. They haven't; you just haven't checked. That's not sarcasm; it's fact.
 
I'm not voting for any of them in 2018. I do tend to procrastinate sometimes, but that's ridiculous.

Ah , that's when his TX senate seat is up for reelection, I vote in Texas.
 
Hey, as long as he votes for the most conservative person in the race in 2016, I care less what he does in 2018 :D

I vote in Texas, his seat is open in 2018. Understand?
 
Are you sure you like it? If he means a time of prosperity for America, that's one thing, but the New American Century was a call for the US to impose a pax americana on the rest of the world by force of arms.

<------ Soft Imperialist. The world without a strong America doesn't look like Western Europe; Western Europe is a product of a Strong America. It looks like Syria, or Ukraine.

If Rubio really means that he wants the US to step up its world cop activities, then I'm not in favor of making him the CIC, are you?

Absolutely. Our allies want (need) a strong, forward-leaning American defense posture. Ask the Philippines or Taiwan what they think about the 7th Fleet being a credible threat to the Peoples' Republic of China, or the South Koreans what they think of having the US in charge of the UN force there. The UAE and Saudi Arabia have announced they are ready to put their troops to work against ISIL.... if the US will lead. When Russia invaded the Ukraine, the Ukraine turned to..... America (and got MRE's). When members of the Green Movement in Iran were being dragged into vans by the Basij, they chanted demands for support from the US (and our President lectured them and treated them as the moral equivalent of the regime abusing them).
 
I vote in Texas, his seat is open in 2018. Understand?

Ah. Now it does make sense.

As long as he's running, I think Cruz is safe in Texas.
 
Ah. Now it does make sense.

As long as he's running, I think Cruz is safe in Texas.

He has not said either way if he will be running in 2018. He lost my precinct of San Antonio in 2012, but then again I live in the gay area of the city, not exactly Cruz country, no pun intended

Either way he is part of the problem with Washington, for sure not the solution. You cant pray the countries problems away, despite what some may think.
 
Giving Cruz a free pass ? I hope you do the same for the candidates on the other side.

I for one will not vote for the guy in 2018.

His staff or a supporter made that retweet, not Cruz.

Won't matter how you vote.
 
His staff or a supporter made that retweet, not Cruz.

Won't matter how you vote.

Would rather not vote for Cruzy

He smells like Texas Oil
 
<------ Soft Imperialist. The world without a strong America doesn't look like Western Europe; Western Europe is a product of a Strong America. It looks like Syria, or Ukraine.



Absolutely. Our allies want (need) a strong, forward-leaning American defense posture. Ask the Philippines or Taiwan what they think about the 7th Fleet being a credible threat to the Peoples' Republic of China, or the South Koreans what they think of having the US in charge of the UN force there. The UAE and Saudi Arabia have announced they are ready to put their troops to work against ISIL.... if the US will lead. When Russia invaded the Ukraine, the Ukraine turned to..... America (and got MRE's). When members of the Green Movement in Iran were being dragged into vans by the Basij, they chanted demands for support from the US (and our President lectured them and treated them as the moral equivalent of the regime abusing them).

And yet ISIL is the product of chaos in the Mid East, generated in large part by the war in Iraq. Europe is waging economic war against Russia as a result of the Ukraine, and hurting Putin and his nation. Military action by the USA isn't always the best option, nor even a desirable option. We don't need a CIC calling for yet another US waged war in the Mid East. We need one who will make it clear that, should the only option be war, the US will go in it to win, but that war is the absolute last resort.
 
TX is a red state. Chances of a Leftist Senator are nil.

I sure hope so. I am so turned off by the leftist party that I cannot see myself ever again voting for a democrat. I've come to realize they are mean spirited, divisive demagogues - all you have to do is read this DP forum and you generally see who is a little more civil.
 
I sure hope so. I am so turned off by the leftist party that I cannot see myself ever again voting for a democrat. I've come to realize they are mean spirited, divisive demagogues - all you have to do is read this DP forum and you generally see who is a little more civil.

The Left is hoping I'm wrong.
 
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