Criminal trials to watch and discuss - 2022 edition

[gboisjo]

Is state going to request a competency (ability to represent kind of competency, not mental capacity) review?

No, his disruptive jailhouse behavior will be controlled IMO..

 

[ASHES]

Closing arguments in Jones.

 

[gboisjo]

Brooks in alternate courtroom, shirt off, showing back to camera.

Continues to make a mockery of proceedings.

 

[Lutherf]

There's already been 3 and he was found competent. He has an understanding he's just using antics.

Brooks is competent, what he's doing is mostly an act.

The judge is doing a great job as Brooks tries in vein to derail the proceedings.

Jail house phone calls speak volumes about Brooks deliberate, defiant, obnoxious, behavior.

I may well be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that there is precedent for a judge to assign representation over the objection of the accused is the accused is shown to be incapable of presenting a rational defense or, due to their actions, becomes so disruptive that the court can't conduct the trial. I think that may be what the state attorney and judge were setting the groundwork for.

To my thinking, you WANT this case to get in front of a jury but you also want the jury to be comfortable that the defendant has had every chance possible to exercise his rights. Basically, get Brooks in front of the jury, give them a taste of what you've been dealing with, explain the rights and rules about pro se representation then appoint counsel and finish the trial without Brooks being present. It's all going to get appealed anyway but you certainly want to make every effort to show that the defendant was fully afforded his rights.

 

[ASHES]

I may well be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that there is precedent for a judge to assign representation over the objection of the accused is the accused is shown to be incapable of presenting a rational defense or, due to their actions, becomes so disruptive that the court can't conduct the trial. I think that may be what the state attorney and judge were setting the groundwork for.

To my thinking, you WANT this case to get in front of a jury but you also want the jury to be comfortable that the defendant has had every chance possible to exercise his rights. Basically, get Brooks in front of the jury, give them a taste of what you've been dealing with, explain the rights and rules about pro se representation then appoint counsel and finish the trial without Brooks being present. It's all going to get appealed anyway but you certainly want to make every effort to show that the defendant was fully afforded his rights.

They went through it all before during the motion by his counsel to withdraw. 3 seperate doctors found him competent. All this nonsense, if it gets in front of the jury, is at his own peril, and can not be used as grounds for appeal.

 

[Lutherf]

They went through it all before during the motion by his counsel to withdraw. 3 seperate doctors found him competent. All this nonsense, if it gets in front of the jury, is at his own peril, and can not be used as grounds for appeal.

I get that but there is a difference between mental competence, knowing right from wrong, and operational competence which is the ability to perform certain functions. Someone might, for example, have the right to go skydiving and pack their own parachute but if the jump master KNOWS that person packed their chute wrong and allows them to jump anyway because "that's their right" then there's an issue.

 

[gboisjo]

I may well be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that there is precedent for a judge to assign representation over the objection of the accused is the accused is shown to be incapable of presenting a rational defense or, due to their actions, becomes so disruptive that the court can't conduct the trial. I think that may be what the state attorney and judge were setting the groundwork for.

To my thinking, you WANT this case to get in front of a jury but you also want the jury to be comfortable that the defendant has had every chance possible to exercise his rights. Basically, get Brooks in front of the jury, give them a taste of what you've been dealing with, explain the rights and rules about pro se representation then appoint counsel and finish the trial without Brooks being present. It's all going to get appealed anyway but you certainly want to make every effort to show that the defendant was fully afforded his rights.

Yup, one way or the other he will be prosecuted and spend the rest of his life in jail.

Deliberately ran down and killed an innocent kid, I hope his life in prison is shear hell.

Zero remorse.

 

[ASHES]

I get that but there is a difference between mental competence, knowing right from wrong, and operational competence which is the ability to perform certain functions. Someone might, for example, have the right to go skydiving and pack their own parachute but if the jump master KNOWS that person packed their chute wrong and allows them to jump anyway because "that's their right" then there's an issue.

It's the same exam. The court has found he has an understanding of the proceedings and is capable of defending himself.

 

[Lutherf]

Sounds like the jury will be coming in shortly.

 

[ASHES]

Sounds like the jury will be coming in shortly.

Thanks, I was watching Jones. Wouldn't want to miss openings live.

 

[ASHES]

They gave him headphones, probably to avoid the feedback they were getting earlier from the other courtroom.

 

[gboisjo]

Objecting to jury instructions, what a moron.

He's on mute.

Jury is getting its first dose of thls psychopath.

 

[gboisjo]

Brooks opening statement should be a hoot, that's if he even has one.

 

[gboisjo]

76 charges, judges instructions will take some time.

 

[ASHES]

Brooks opening statement should be a hoot, that's if he even has one.

He should keep his mouth shut, but he won't. Will probably start spouting jurisdiction crap and the judge will have to stop him because that's not a defense it's a motion before the court. If he won't stop, he'll just be muted and it will go on.

76 charges, judges instructions will take some time.

Yeah. Long list.

 

[Lutherf]

Wait, I went off to watch the Rekieta interview of Crowder when the judge was at count 65 or something. Now I come back and she's on 13? Is one of the jurors a sovereign citizen that said he didn't understand?

 

[ASHES]

Wait, I went off to watch the Rekieta interview of Crowder when the judge was at count 65 or something. Now I come back and she's on 13? Is one of the jurors a sovereign citizen that said he didn't understand?

Could be different counts? I'm just waiting for opening statements.

 

[Lutherf]

Could be different counts? I'm just waiting for opening statements.

Sounds like the first reading was the charges. This reading is the instructions for each charge.

 

[Lutherf]

Aaaaggghhhh!!!

With jury instructions done the court is taking a break for lunch. Opening statements to follow.

 

[Lutherf]

Brooks is objecting to the use of his name because "That's not me". He also seems to want to know how the judge can know what the law says in the jury instructions.

 

[ASHES]

Aaaaggghhhh!!!

With jury instructions done the court is taking a break for lunch. Opening statements to follow.

They'll be back at 2pm ET.

Brooks is objecting to the use of his name because "That's not me". He also seems to want to know how the judge can know what the law says in the jury instructions.

The issue with the name is how it is written in court and jail and other official documents, BROOKS, DARREL. Sovcits don't accept this as referring to themselves, but as a corporate fiction of the United States.

 

[Lutherf]

They'll be back at 2pm ET.


The issue with the name is how it is written in court and jail and other official documents, BROOKS, DARREL. Sovcits don't accept this as referring to themselves, but as a corporate fiction of the United States.

It's merely a stalling tactic. I'm as opposed to an overreaching government as anyone is but these guys are in another world. One can live in their own world all they like, believing their own bullshit, but when they try to impose that world on everyone else those actions need to be shut down.

 

[Lutherf]

Court should be back in session by now for Brooks. I wonder what the delay is.

Should I speculate?

Sure!

I'm going to guess that Brooks, previously objecting to shirts, is now objecting to pants but is confused that without pants he no longer has a place to support his "objection" sign.

 

[ASHES]

Yeah, waiting patiently. He was being seen by medics because he said he wouldn't come back unless he was treated for a bruise on his arm from the scuffle. After they treat his wounds, she'll try convincing him to follow rules and decorum.

 

[ASHES]

Back in court.