Criminal trials to watch and discuss - 2022 edition

[gboisjo]

That's no different than any other complaint that the media/social media/crowd-outside frenzy "may have" influenced the jury. You gotta prove that it happened. "May have" ain't gonna cut it. And besides, how is that appeal going to be viewed in light of AH telling the jury to "look her up"?

In light of the Depp following ..with the lines of these morons around around the court house fighting for a wrist ban to get a seat ...

And once in, drooling and chuckling out loud at every wise crack Depp made during cross, something should have done to prevent this ****ing three ring circus.

 

[Cardinal]

In light of the Depp following ..with the lines of these morons around around the court house fighting for a wrist ban to get a seat ...

And once in, drooling and chuckling out loud at every wise crack Depp made during cross, something should have done to prevent this ****ing three ring circus.

Yes, that's said during every high profile case. But the burden is on you to prove that the jurists were in fact persuaded by people outside the courtroom. If the burden were not on you to prove this, then no high profile trial could happen.

 

[ASHES]

In light of the Depp following ..with the lines of these morons around around the court house fighting for a wrist ban to get a seat ...

And once in, drooling and chuckling out loud at every wise crack Depp made during cross, something should have done to prevent this ****ing three ring circus.

Only one person was removed by the court for their behaviour, and it was Heard's friend Eve Barlowe.

 

[Cardinal]

Only one person was removed by the court for their behaviour, and it was Heard's friend Eve Barlowe.

What did this Eve do?

 

[ASHES]

What did this Eve do?

It isn't entirely clear. The Depp motion to have her excluded from the courtroom for the rest of the trial was filed under seal like most motions in the trial, but it was granted. There's speculation she was using a phone during the trial, and talking to Heard from the gallery at inappropriate times.

 

[gboisjo]

What did this Eve do?

Good question, compared to the Depp sheep who filled the court room ..salivating, making noise whenever Depp moved.

 

[ASHES]

Good question, compared to the Depp sheep who filled the court room ..salivating, making noise whenever Depp moved.

You forget the trial was televised, and making stuff up doesn't work?

 

[Josie]

Good question, compared to the Depp sheep who filled the court room ..salivating, making noise whenever Depp moved.

What do you think AH lied about?

 

[Josie]

It isn't entirely clear. The Depp motion to have her excluded from the courtroom for the rest of the trial was filed under seal like most motions in the trial, but it was granted. There's speculation she was using a phone during the trial, and talking to Heard from the gallery at inappropriate times.

All that happened before I jumped on. That Eve sure is stirring the pot on Twitter, though.

 

[gboisjo]

You forget the trial was televised, and making stuff up doesn't work?

You forget Depp lost in GB where it was decided by a judge not a jury.

He didn't just lose, he lost hard, his appeal was flatly rejected.

My point is this, most high profile cases in the US become a joke, a circus.

Fluff it up anyway you want, I'm not buying it ..the drunk got away with one.

This trial ended up being about likability and charisma, nothing more.

 

[gboisjo]

What do you think AH lied about?

Exaggerated on a few things, but mostly told the truth.

 

[Josie]

Exaggerated on a few things, but mostly told the truth.

But you said she was a liar, not just an exaggerator. Do you think she lied about anything?

Why do you think almost everyone who watched the trial disagrees with you?

 

[gboisjo]

But you said she was a liar, not just an exaggerator. Do you think she lied about anything?

Why do you think almost everyone who watched the trial disagrees with you?

In text messages to friends, Johnny Depp fantasized about murdering his then-wife, the actress Amber Heard. “I will **** her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead,”

Not everyone agrees with you and ASHES, at least not the objective ones.

In the words of Donald Trump "I could kill somebody and they would still love me".

The Amber Heard-Johnny Depp trial was an orgy of misogyny | Moira Donegan

The backlash to #Me Too has long been under way. But this feels like a tipping point

www.theguardian.com

 

[gboisjo]

In some ways, one could see the defamation suit itself as an extension of Depp’s abuse of Heard, a way to prolong his humiliation and control over her.

Depp texted his friend Christian Carino, vowing revenge against Heard. “She is begging for global humiliation,” Depp wrote. “She is going to get it.”

Wrote the spiteful, hateful, jealous, drunk.

 

[Josie]

@gboisjo but you said that you thought she was a liar, not just an exaggerator. Do you think she lied about anything?

 

[ASHES]

In text messages to friends, Johnny Depp fantasized about murdering his then-wife, the actress Amber Heard. “I will **** her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead,”

Not everyone agrees with you and ASHES, at least not the objective ones.

In the words of Donald Trump "I could kill somebody and they would still love me".

The Amber Heard-Johnny Depp trial was an orgy of misogyny | Moira Donegan

The backlash to #Me Too has long been under way. But this feels like a tipping point

www.theguardian.com

In the real world, Heard abused Depp, then defamed him by claiming he was the abuser. She taunted him to go public, counting on they'd all think like you. The jury wasn't buying her bullshit.

Pledged and donated mean the same thing right? It's OK if you hit your partner, as long as you say it wasn't a punch? It's OK to manufacture multiple pieces of fake evidence? The cops are lying? Random employees are all lying? The jury wasn't objective? Give me a break. The UK trial was a farce btw. Judge had multiple personal connections to the case. Heard didn't testify in person, and wasn't cross examined. Hearsay evidence admitted. Joke verdict.

 

[Josie]

In the real world, Heard abused Depp, then defamed him by claiming he was the abuser. She taunted him to go public, counting on they'd all think like you. The jury wasn't buying her bullshit.

Pledged and donated mean the same thing right? It's OK if you hit your partner, as long as you say it wasn't a punch? It's OK to manufacture multiple pieces of fake evidence? The cops are lying? Random employees are all lying? The jury wasn't objective? Give me a break. The UK trial was a farce btw. Judge had multiple personal connections to the case. Heard didn't testify in person, and wasn't cross examined. Hearsay evidence admitted. Joke verdict.

I've heard the judge in the UK also admitted that Heard had given false statements.

 

[gboisjo]

In the real world, Heard abused Depp

You mean in your world, where differing opinions are other worldly. This was a he said, she said case, nothing more.

Depp won here because he was a better liar, his fans lapped it up while Heard endured insults and mockery from those toads.

Trials are not spectator sports, Depp vs Heard was nothing more than a media driven, fan based circus ..Barnum & Bailey couldn't have done a better job.

 

[gboisjo]

I've heard the judge in the UK also admitted that Heard had given false statements.

Where's your link.

 

[Josie]

@gboisjo but you said that you thought she was a liar, not just an exaggerator. Do you think she lied about anything?

@gboisjo ?

 

[PoS]

I've heard the judge in the UK also admitted that Heard had given false statements.

I wonder if thats gonna impact the judgement against Johnny there. Can he appeal?

If this trial proved anything, its that the court experts were wrong and Johnny Depp still can get a draw from his fans.

 

[gboisjo]

I wonder if thats gonna impact the judgement against Johnny there. Can he appeal?

He did appeal in the UK, it was flatly rejected.

Can he appeal again, I doubt it.

 

[Josie]

@gboisjo but you said that you thought she was a liar, not just an exaggerator. Do you think she lied about anything?

Why don't you want to answer this @gboisjo ?

 

[Josie]

I wonder if thats gonna impact the judgement against Johnny there. Can he appeal?

If this trial proved anything, its that the court experts were wrong and Johnny Depp still can get a draw from his fans.

The court experts who were actually watching the trial all agreed that JD would probably win something. I think some of the "experts" commenting on the trial on TV were just watching or reading tidbits.

 

[gboisjo]

Why don't you want to answer this @gboisjo ?

Because I changed my mind as I learned more.

As it stands now for me, Depp is a batterer who got away with one.

A jealous drunk who blacks out is not someone I would trust, maybe you, not me.