COVID: SCOTUS Rules Against Church

[calamity]

5-4 with Roberts joining the Majority, again.

Supreme Court, in 5-4 Decision, Rejects Church’s Challenge to Shutdown Order - The New York Times

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday turned away a request from a church in California to block enforcement of state restrictions on attendance at religious services.

The vote was 5 to 4, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. joining the court’s four-member liberal wing to form a majority.

“Although California’s guidelines place restrictions on places of worship, those restrictions appear consistent with the free exercise clause of the First Amendment,”

Good.

 

[DiAnna]

5-4 with Roberts joining the Majority, again.

Supreme Court, in 5-4 Decision, Rejects Church’s Challenge to Shutdown Order - The New York Times



Good.

Yes, it's good. But I can't be the only one unnerved by the fact that 4 Supreme Court Justices thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes.

 

[Taylor]

Yes, it's good. But I can't be the only one unnerved by the fact that 4 Supreme Court Justices thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes.

Where did they say it would be a good idea?

 

[JANFU]

Yes, it's good. But I can't be the only one unnerved by the fact that 4 Supreme Court Justices thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes.

Number of issues come to mind

Freedom of Religion- States right to act in a pandemic

Casinos are regulated by the State and are subject to inspection by State Agencies, no one can dispute that

Many Churches have adapted to C19 and still have the ability to speak to their respective congregations

Now, places of worship, can ya imagine if the State tried to inspect a place of worship to ensure State regs/laws were adhered to

Now that would be a **** storm

 

[swing_voter]

All those people who voted for Trump solely because Trump would stack the Supreme Court with conservative justices, this is one big **** you.

 

[JANFU]

Where did they say it would be a good idea?

Me I think you have failed to understand her point?

 

[Taylor]

Me I think you have failed to understand her point?

How so?

 

[HIP56948]

To me, churches are just a group of people, subject to the morality for the welfare of the populace. They should receive no special treatment what-so-ever. They can live in their fairy tale land all they want but this poster believes they're not capable of rational thought.

 

[btthegreat]

Yes, it's good. But I can't be the only one unnerved by the fact that 4 Supreme Court Justices thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes.

I am not religious, but if someone points me to a God who will listen, I will pray for Justice Ginsberg's health for more than one reason. Moscow Mitch will slam a Trump nominee in emergency session through in the dead of night on January 18 2021 without a single public hearing. What will that do to all these 5-4 rulings?

 

[JANFU]

How so?

That would take more time than I wish to expend

 

[JANFU]

To me, churches are just a group of people, subject to the morality for the welfare of the populace. They should receive no special treatment what-so-ever. They can live in their fairy tale land all they want but this poster believes they're not capable of rational thought.

And you are the reason freedom of religion is protected.

 

[Taylor]

That would take more time than I wish to expend

Well, given that no one has time to explain her point in a way that makes sense, perhaps we can all agree that there is no evidence or indication that four Supreme Court Justices "thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes." As we all know, there are lots of things that are legal that aren't good ideas.

 

[calamity]

I am not religious, but if someone points me to a God who will listen, I will pray for Justice Ginsberg's health for more than one reason. Moscow Mitch will slam a Trump nominee in emergency session through in the dead of night on January 18 2021 without a single public hearing. What will that do to all these 5-4 rulings?

We need to add justices to SCOTUS. I hope the D win both houses and ram 4 new judges up the Republicans' ass.

 

[calamity]

Well, given that no one has time to explain her point in a way that makes sense, perhaps we can all agree that there is no evidence or indication that four Supreme Court Justices "thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes." As we all know, there are lots of things that are legal that aren't good ideas.

One assumes the reader has a ****ing brain. I can see that sometimes this assumption is misplaced.

 

[JANFU]

Well, given that no one has time to explain her point in a way that makes sense, perhaps we can all agree that there is no evidence or indication that four Supreme Court Justices "thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes." As we all know, there are lots of things that are legal that aren't good ideas.

Their decisions-majority/minority are available

How about ya read them and get back to me

Good, we agree

 

[maxparrish]

5-4 with Roberts joining the Majority, again.

Supreme Court, in 5-4 Decision, Rejects Church’s Challenge to Shutdown Order - The New York Times

Good.

"Again?"...the story is dated MAY 30th, nearly two months ago. What again? We already discussed this.

 

[Taylor]

Their decisions-majority/minority are available

How about ya read them and get back to me

Good, we agree

I did. Nowhere does any judge indicate that it would "be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes."

 

[Taylor]

One assumes the reader has a ****ing brain. I can see that sometimes this assumption is misplaced.

Oh, go on. There's no reason to imply that she doesn't have a brain simply because she didn't understand the dissenting views.

 

[HIP56948]

And you are the reason freedom of religion is protected.

I'm not the reason it's protected. It's protected because people believe that 2-4 thousand years ago, semi-illiterate goat herders knew how the universe works.

 

[JMaximus]

Yes, it's good. But I can't be the only one unnerved by the fact that 4 Supreme Court Justices thought it would be a good idea to allow churches to pack in people and have a choir singing in the midst of the worst health crisis this country has had in our lifetimes.

They were probably thinking that it's not their job to tend to public health emergencies.

 

[maxparrish]

All those people who voted for Trump solely because Trump would stack the Supreme Court with conservative justices, this is one big **** you.

As Trump didn't 'stack' the court with Roberts, your 'big fu" is misplaced. Rather, it was Bush that was a boneheaded idiot of that appointment.

 

[calamity]

As expected

Conservatives blast Supreme Court ruling: Roberts 'abandoned his oath'

 

[calamity]

As Trump didn't 'stack' the court with Roberts, your 'big fu" is misplaced. Rather, it was Bush that was a boneheaded idiot of that appointment.

JR is young too. You'll get to whine about him for decades.

 

[JANFU]

I'm not the reason it's protected. It's protected because people believe that 2-4 thousand years ago, semi-illiterate goat herders knew how the universe works.

Well do you support the 1st Amendment?
First Amendment | U.S. Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

First Amendment

The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

As expected

Conservatives blast Supreme Court ruling: Roberts 'abandoned his oath'

Well, of course. It only stands to reason that criticism of the petition's denial would follow, since churches were clearly subjected to different rules than other venues. Specifically, casinos were allowed to operate at 50% of their maximum capacity, when churches were limited to fifty people, regardless of their size. This is pretty clearly disparate treatment, especially when independent examiners concluded the distancing and sanitation protocols employed by the churches met or exceeded CDC guidelines.