Covid on the Run

[snakestretcher]

It’s all about the numbers...suddenly we have the lowest death rate for 20 years that means that many of those people that died of Covid would have died by now without it. ..it’s not rocket science given the average age of death from/with it is 82 and that over 90% of people that died of/ with it had more than just Covid on their death certificate. What don’t you understand?

Death rates have been dropping since at least the end of WW2. Nowhere close to "suddenly". And frankly an obscure blog which proudly announces 'vaccine passports, your ticket to tyranny' is not to be taken seriously.

 

[Big Eye]

So who do I get my facts from, scientists with decades of expertise or a bunch of sceptical nutters on the internet for whom everything is a conspiracy, a plot to control populations, viruses are a hoax and nothing is as it seems?

The virus is real and so is the fact that it’s not a serious risk for the vast bulk of the population.

 

[Big Eye]

Death rates have been dropping since at least the end of WW2. Nowhere close to "suddenly".

Death rates dropped a bit due to mass immigration...they were generally younger, healthier people, but even during the pandemic the death rate was lower than in the early 2000s.

 

[snakestretcher]

Death rates dropped a bit due to mass immigration...they were generally younger, healthier people, but even during the pandemic the death rate was lower than in the early 2000s.

You of course have more than just your opinion to support this stuff about immigration.

 

[Big Eye]

You of course have more than just your opinion to support this stuff about immigration.

It’s not rocket science...millions of young people came here , so the population grew and got younger for a while...

 

[MAGAnificent]

Have you ever seen a genuine death certificate? Have you completed one? If not, your opinion isn't really worth much, is it.

Yes. I have seen three and have signed two. Have you?

 

[noonereal]

But science has been abducted by consensus driven , politically motivated cowards.

iT has?

No one told me.

 

[noonereal]

Not so ...Micheal Crichton warned years ago about where science was headed...

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/mich...-there-is-no-such-thing-as-consensus-science/

Knowing you views, it seems clear you did not understand what you read.

Peace

What is true is the science of today is the biggest science of tomorrow which is more in keeping with your links view.

 

[noonereal]

Florida and California are both mid table states when it comes to Covid deaths...so the idea that masks make much impact is disproven.

I know reason holds no value to your posts but I saw masks and distancing take NYC from a 25% infection rate to less than 1% in a relatively short time. And how do you explain that colds and flu were non existent this past season. And of course I have science on my side.

You offer NOTHING, nothing to support your view.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Ha ha, delusions run strong through the Trump crowd. At this moment in time they are busy denying an investigation into the terrorist that stormed the capital. A new study just came out claiming over half of them are QAnon nutballs. Yet you blame an imaginary condition.

Last time I checked, there is still an ongoing investigation by the real professionals....law enforcement, which includes the Capitol Police and the FBI. There were over 500 arrests. It's being handled and none of that depends on or requires a partisan motivated commission. Let law enforcement do it's job and leave the politicians out of it.

One thing I'll give you is, Trump fanboys will die slow, and go down hard. It's become a sickness of it's own, full of HG terrorists who are fighting against Satan. lol Way to go!

Nothing remotely rational in that vapid rant.

The bright light is despite Trumpies we will probably kick this pandemic to the curb because the rest of America is on board and willing to do whatever it takes. Thankfully!

Thanks to Operation Warp Speed for the vaccines becoming available as soon as they did despite the experts claiming it would be a long ways off. I'll pass your thanks on to Trump.

 

[Ethel2]

Yes. I have seen three and have signed two. Have you?

At least a dozen
Then you must be a doctor

 

[ElChupacabra]

I know reason holds no value to your posts but I saw masks and distancing take NYC from a 25% infection rate to less than 1% in a relatively short time. And how do you explain that colds and flu were non existent this past season. And of course I have science on my side.

You offer NOTHING, nothing to support your view.

I think what played even bigger roles were:

1. Office work moving to remote
2. Shifting to outdoor activities

The transmission and death counts dropped dramatically as we hit spring and through all of summer when many activities were happening outside. The big impact from many office workers going remote is you didn't have the same high volume of people traveling in crowded mass transit, or eating indoors as is usually the case. The second surge during the holidays really showed how contagious the disease is in indoor settings even assuming mask compliance was high.

 

[noonereal]

I think what played even bigger roles were:

1. Office work moving to remote
2. Shifting to outdoor activities

The transmission and death counts dropped dramatically as we hit spring and through all of summer when many activities were happening outside. The big impact from many office workers going remote is you didn't have the same high volume of people traveling in crowded mass transit, or eating indoors as is usually the case. The second surge during the holidays really showed how contagious the disease is in indoor settings even assuming mask compliance was high.

No question summer helped as did lessening the density of population, this is why some areas of the country were not as hard hit even without masks.

AZ got rocked for a while but did not need to be, same with FL.

 

[Ethel2]

Last time I checked, there is still an ongoing investigation by the real professionals....law enforcement, which includes the Capitol Police and the FBI. There were over 500 arrests. It's being handled and none of that depends on or requires a partisan motivated commission. Let law enforcement do it's job and leave the politicians out of it.



Nothing remotely rational in that vapid rant.


Thanks to Operation Warp Speed for the vaccines becoming available as soon as they did despite the experts claiming it would be a long ways off. I'll pass your thanks on to Trump.

The problem with your "leave the politicians out of it" nonsense is that it is because of one politician, the jackass, that the insurrection even got started. Had the jackass not incited the riot there would have been none. It is because of his behavior that a commission is needed to investigate the riot. Subpoenas will be issued by the House select committee (which will be the next step) and this will drag on well into 2022-just in time for the midterm elections to be influenced. The republicans made a mistake: they could have agreed to a bipartisan committee with a time limit for concluding the investigation. Now they have left it up to Nancy Pelosi to appoint a committee to investigate, and there will not be a time limit. Tactical mistake by the far right extremists who don't really want the truth to be revealed.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Last time I checked, there is still an ongoing investigation by the real professionals....law enforcement, which includes the Capitol Police and the FBI. There were over 500 arrests. It's being handled and none of that depends on or requires a partisan motivated commission. Let law enforcement do it's job and leave the politicians out of it.



Nothing remotely rational in that vapid rant.


Thanks to Operation Warp Speed for the vaccines becoming available as soon as they did despite the experts claiming it would be a long ways off. I'll pass your thanks on to Trump.

Little hard to do when it was an invasion of that scale on the government. They act like it was just a small protest gone wrong, not even bright enough to realize the scope of what they did.

They're clearly avoiding it because there is a lot to hide. We will be finding out anyway, now they just look like they're hiding crap. Not a good look. But hey, Trumps base likes the look, and don't really seem to care what the outcome will be in the end. They'll continue to shoot their own foot off.

I'm fine with it. Those Republicans that don't want to ride the Trump train, looking like the National Lampoons Government, will be doing their own thing which will only compete with Trumps base. It's a lose, lose, but it seems to be inevitable because there is no talking sense to those people.

Like I've said, most libs appreciated warp speed, and utilized it to it's fullest! Doesn't matter if Trump dropped the ball along the way to appease his anti vax, anti mask base, libs picked the ball up and Biden's done a great job slam ducking with it. So yes, thanks for starting the ball rolling Mr. Trump, too bad your base sucks ass.

 

[Big Eye]

iT has?

No one told me.

That’s why you seem unaware that certain topics that seem to have become “ scientific facts” are nothing of the sort. For instance there is no scientific work showing non virus masks stop viruses...actually the latest study shows greater infection amongst mask wearers because they tend to mix with more people. That’s another thing actually...since when did science become about doing surveys and not about proof?

 

[Big Eye]

Knowing you views, it seems clear you did not understand what you read.

Peace

What is true is the science of today is the biggest science of tomorrow which is more in keeping with your links view.

I think I understand what’s going on more than you. Science is tying up with mainstream political opinion...”proof” always ends up being some sort of unreliable survey that just happens to back up the political narrative.

Show me the scientific data that non virus masks stop viruses...****ing show me the science since you claim to have it, ta.

 

[Big Eye]

I know reason holds no value to your posts but I saw masks and distancing take NYC from a 25% infection rate to less than 1% in a relatively short time. And how do you explain that colds and flu were non existent this past season. And of course I have science on my side.

You offer NOTHING, nothing to support your view.

Everywhere has a rapid drop in infection rate, masks or no masks....Have you noticed how India is no longer front page news since their infection rates have started to decline...

 

[Big Eye]

Former MI6 boss is now saying that the Covid virus has “inserted” components.

 

[snakestretcher]

I think I understand what’s going on more than you. Science is tying up with mainstream political opinion...”proof” always ends up being some sort of unreliable survey that just happens to back up the political narrative.

Show me the scientific data that non virus masks stop viruses...****ing show me the science since you claim to have it, ta.

Show me the proof that gravity exists.

How Do We 'Prove' A Well-Established Theory Like Gravity?

What is the definitive proof there is gravity? This question was originally answered on Quora by Simon Bridge.

www.forbes.com

Science isn't in the business of providing 'proof', only of theories which remain the best explanation of a phenomenon until better 'proof' emerges. Relativity remains a theory because nobody has come up with anything to counter it in over a century since it was first proposed by Albert Einstein.

 

[Big Eye]

Show me the proof that gravity exists.

How Do We 'Prove' A Well-Established Theory Like Gravity?

What is the definitive proof there is gravity? This question was originally answered on Quora by Simon Bridge.

www.forbes.com

Science isn't in the business of providing 'proof', only of theories which remain the best explanation of a phenomenon until better 'proof' emerges. Relativity remains a theory because nobody has come up with anything to counter it in over a century since it was first proposed by Albert Einstein.

My point is that if a theory like gravity is useful and we can make predictions based on our knowledge of it, then that’s fine , I’ll accept the theory. Btw , we don’t understand why gravity exists, we just understand it’s actions.

My point is that science now seems to have become a consensus of opinion thing...but often that opinion is in no way identifiably useful...so , for instance, there is no proof wearing non virus masks blocks any worthwhile degree of infection, no predictions can be made from that consensus view....for instance if masks worked places with strict mask mandates would be doing far better than similar places without them. They are basically political rather than proven and tested scientific facts.

 

[Big Eye]

Just to open a can of worms too...scientists that make claims about the warming of the Earth have been unable to make accurate predictions about future temperature rises....that implies that their science is at least partially wrong.

 

[noonereal]

actually the latest study shows greater infection amongst mask wearers because they tend to mix with more people.

You don't understand how ridiculous siting this is, do you?

ONBVIOUSLY the more people you interact with the more infects we will have. WTF?

I sometimes wondered when I read stuff on the internet, how did man ever make it as far as he did?

 

[noonereal]

I think I understand what’s going on more than you.

I literally spit my coffee reading this!

You go with this, God bless you.

I wish you the best.

 

[Big Eye]

You don't understand how ridiculous siting this is, do you?

ONBVIOUSLY the more people you interact with the more infects we will have. WTF?

I sometimes wondered when I read stuff on the internet, how did man ever make it as far as he did?

Lol, I’ve read the study ( the media view of it) , I understand what you’re saying there, but one of the implications is that it gives people a false sense of security, they get closer or mix more than they would without masks. Also , as is often the case, theory sounds good but when it comes up against reality is falls apart...things like re-used ( ie , useless masks) are not taken into account.