wxcrazytwo
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So your going to compare a relatively common occurence to something that has never happened anywhere else in the world ever. Least that I know of. You think this comparison is really fair or at best lucent? Would seem to me that last big quake in SF was handled rather well and there was significant damage. To compare apple to apples have a earthquake.. and then it can't stop quaking for 6 months. Then you get to compare the to semi eaqually.wxcrazytwo said:
Dude, the United States cannot handle catastrophic events such ash a KATRINA, which they knew was coming. How the heck do you expect them to handle an event that no one knows is coming. Which quake are you referring to in S.F? I know that the 1906 quake was not handled well, as there were wide spreading looting, rape, etc. Just believe it, we cannot do it.Calm2Chaos said:So your going to compare a relatively common occurence to something that has never happened anywhere else in the world ever. Least that I know of. You think this comparison is really fair or at best lucent? Would seem to me that last big quake in SF was handled rather well and there was significant damage. To compare apple to apples have a earthquake.. and then it can't stop quaking for 6 months. Then you get to compare the to semi eaqually.
How about the 89 quake... Least I think It was 89.. Collapsed buildings, collapsed highwatys. Fires everywhere.. That onewxcrazytwo said:Dude, the United States cannot handle catastrophic events such ash a KATRINA, which they knew was coming. How the heck do you expect them to handle an event that no one knows is coming. Which quake are you referring to in S.F? I know that the 1906 quake was not handled well, as there were wide spreading looting, rape, etc. Just believe it, we cannot do it.
Seriously, that was 100 years ago. As someone who used to live in SF, I can assure you they are quite prepared for earthquakes.wxcrazytwo said:Dude, the United States cannot handle catastrophic events such ash a KATRINA, which they knew was coming. How the heck do you expect them to handle an event that no one knows is coming. Which quake are you referring to in S.F? I know that the 1906 quake was not handled well, as there were wide spreading looting, rape, etc. Just believe it, we cannot do it.
Homey, the 89 quake, which I was unfortunately in, was nothing compared to Katrina. The boxing day tsunami was one of the most devastating in the world. However, I believe there was xero looting or crime. If you can find anything criminally regarding the boxing day tsunami, please let me know. Otherwise, you haven't the slightest clue. We look strong externally, but internally, we are hemorraghing pretty bad...Calm2Chaos said:How about the 89 quake... Least I think It was 89.. Collapsed buildings, collapsed highwatys. Fires everywhere.. That one
We handled Katrina fine as can be expected. We handled it better then any other nation on earth would have been capable of. And we would handle an earthquake fine also. It won't be perfect and there wil be mistakes. But the country will do whatever it takes to get through it.
Keep thinking that. I have a buddy of 27 years who lives in S.F., and he has told me that they are not quite prepared for the big one. Even if it was 100 years ago, we establish procedures based on precedence and past experiences. Oh, I forgot the U.S. never learns from past experiences.. Sorry my bad...Kelzie said:Seriously, that was 100 years ago. As someone who used to live in SF, I can assure you they are quite prepared for earthquakes.
Thats friggin brilliant.wxcrazytwo said:Homey, the 89 quake, which I was unfortunately in, was nothing compared to Katrina. The boxing day tsunami was one of the most devastating in the world. However, I believe there was xero looting or crime. If you can find anything criminally regarding the boxing day tsunami, please let me know. Otherwise, you haven't the slightest clue. We look strong externally, but internally, we are hemorraghing pretty bad...
Nothing compared to Katrina? Maybe cause one's a hurricane and one's an EARTHQUAKE?wxcrazytwo said:Homey, the 89 quake, which I was unfortunately in, was nothing compared to Katrina. The boxing day tsunami was one of the most devastating in the world. However, I believe there was xero looting or crime. If you can find anything criminally regarding the boxing day tsunami, please let me know. Otherwise, you haven't the slightest clue. We look strong externally, but internally, we are hemorraghing pretty bad...
How the hell do we survive kitchen fires as a country if we are this fuked up? So whats the plan, What do we do to be so prepared nothing goes wrong or nobody dies?wxcrazytwo said:Keep thinking that. I have a buddy of 27 years who lives in S.F., and he has told me that they are not quite prepared for the big one. Even if it was 100 years ago, we establish procedures based on precedence and past experiences. Oh, I forgot the U.S. never learns from past experiences.. Sorry my bad...
I will keep thinking it. So will the millions of people who live in that area. Are you saying we haven't changed our procedures in earthquakes for 100 years? Get real.wxcrazytwo said:Keep thinking that. I have a buddy of 27 years who lives in S.F., and he has told me that they are not quite prepared for the big one. Even if it was 100 years ago, we establish procedures based on precedence and past experiences. Oh, I forgot the U.S. never learns from past experiences.. Sorry my bad...
That part never actually dawned on me.. In a tsunami theres nothing really left to loot.......It all gets swept out to seaKelzie said:Nothing compared to Katrina? Maybe cause one's a hurricane and one's an EARTHQUAKE?
Again, tsunami and hurricane. You can't compare responses to different natural disastors and expect them to be the same. Since the very nature of the disastor is different, obviously how people respond is going to be different too. You wouldn't see many people looting in a massive fire would you? No? Maybe because everything's on fire! Same thing with a tsunami. Everything below a certain point is gone. Everything above is fine. It is very different from a hurricane.
cut the red tape and allow the emergency supplies and aid to flow. People are unfortunately going to die, that is reality. We can have better implementation of emergency plans in place and workable...Calm2Chaos said:How the hell do we survive kitchen fires as a country if we are this fuked up? So whats the plan, What do we do to be so prepared nothing goes wrong or nobody dies?
Kelzie said:I will keep thinking it. So will the millions of people who live in that area. Are you saying we haven't changed our procedures in earthquakes for 100 years? Get real.
If the technology has improved, how could the procedure not? We have ambulances now. Do you think CA's procedures during an earthquake ignore that fact because we didn't have them 100 years ago?wxcrazytwo said:very little I'd say...Tech wise, drastic improvements..
CA'S quake procedures have improved, but the problem is implementing them. We seem to have a problem in implementing plans that are sound. Actually, I believe CA is on par with everything regarding quakes, but I think that when the reall one occurrs, they will be left with their hands in the pants...Kelzie said:If the technology has improved, how could the procedure not? We have ambulances now. Do you think CA's procedures during an earthquake ignore that fact because we didn't have them 100 years ago?
So it should be a bunch of people just running into a disaster zone. No instruction, no location. JUst cut the tape and run your little ass off in to the devestated area. The red tape is in part designed to make sure none of the people going in get hurt. Again it won't be perfect but it will be handled as was the 89 quake. We handle natural disasters in my opinion better then any other nation in the world.wxcrazytwo said:cut the red tape and allow the emergency supplies and aid to flow. People are unfortunately going to die, that is reality. We can have better implementation of emergency plans in place and workable...
USGS says differentwxcrazytwo said:very little I'd say...Tech wise, drastic improvements..
So basically what you're saying is that, even though CA has handled recent large earthquakes very well, they still have a problem implementing procedure, because possible, just maybe, in the distant future, we might have the mother of all earthquakes that they MIGHT not be prepared for? Even though we've done well since 1906 of course...wxcrazytwo said:CA'S quake procedures have improved, but the problem is implementing them. We seem to have a problem in implementing plans that are sound. Actually, I believe CA is on par with everything regarding quakes, but I think that when the reall one occurrs, they will be left with their hands in the pants...
What in the world are you talking about? :lol:Arch Enemy said:I say we forget about earthquakes and worry about Yellow Stone Park blowing the hell up. Now that's some scary stuff, It'd make Katrina, September 11th and Vietnam look like a bug bite.
True. From what I saw that would be a country killer there with the amount of ash and crap t would push outArch Enemy said:I say we forget about earthquakes and worry about Yellow Stone Park blowing the hell up. Now that's some scary stuff, It'd make Katrina, September 11th and Vietnam look like a bug bite.
Yes. I think the procedures in place are not adequate to handle the mother of all quakes, as for that matter is anyone prepared?? I am out going home I will respond tomorrow..Maybe tonight, but doubt it, too much homework..Kelzie said:So basically what you're saying is that, even though CA has handled recent large earthquakes very well, they still have a problem implementing procedure, because possible, just maybe, in the distant future, we might have the mother of all earthquakes that they MIGHT not be prepared for? Even though we've done well since 1906 of course...
wxcrazytwo said:Yes. I think the procedures in place are not adequate to handle the mother of all quakes, as for that matter is anyone prepared?? I am out going home I will respond tomorrow..Maybe tonight, but doubt it, too much homework..