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Core Inflation Falls To Lowest Rate In Four Years

This one bill will add 3 trillion....and it will take away necessary programs in the process...Trump has already added 8 trillion without the 3 trillion...

Who cares? If you didn't give a shit when Democrats added $17.7 trillion in 12 years, then spare me the faux outrage about pretending to care that Republicans added $15.7 trillion in 12+ years.

Either adding tens of trillions in debt is bad all the time, regardless of hyperpartisan bias, or it's not bad at all.
 
Who cares? If you didn't give a shit when Democrats added $17.7 trillion in 12 years, then spare me the faux outrage about pretending to care that Republicans added $15.7 trillion in 12+ years.

Either adding tens of trillions in debt is bad all the time, regardless of hyperpartisan bias, or it's not bad at all.
The Democrats haven't been in control for all of the 12 years....so precisely how did they add 17.7 trillion to the debt?
 
The Democrats haven't been in control for all of the 12 years....so precisely how did they add 17.7 trillion to the debt?

Rather than point fingers at which party spent more, just buy gold. No matter who’s in charge, the dollar is fooked in the long run. 😆
 
Rather than point fingers at which party spent more, just buy gold. No matter who’s in charge, the dollar is fooked in the long run. 😆
I don't really see gold as a solid investment either....WE actually should discuss debt and what is necessary debt and what is not...giving billionaires a tax cut is not a needed debt...
 
The Democrats haven't been in control for all of the 12 years....so precisely how did they add 17.7 trillion to the debt?

Democratic presidents most definitely have been in control for 12 of the past 24 years of reckless spending…
 
Rather than point fingers at which party spent more, just buy gold. No matter who’s in charge, the dollar is fooked in the long run. 😆

Been investing in gold on and off for the past 20 years and it’s been a big hit. Loads of profit.
 
If Biden's spending caused inflation, it's curious that Trump's higher spending is continuing the drop in inflation that's been ongoing since 2022.

Or, what policy precisely do they think is causing the desired effect.

This reading probably has the most to do with Saudi Arabia producing as much oil as possible, but were they doing that because of Trump?
 
The annual core inflation rate in the United States was 2.8% in April 2025, which is a four-year low. This figure excludes volatile items like food and energy. Shelter costs accounted for over two-thirds of the overall 12-month increase, and were at 4%. You mean the inflation COVID caused? By the time Biden left office, inflation was under three percent. I love how you guys are so quick to make the left angry all the time, don't feel too badly, you aren't the only one who does it.

If the figure excludes energy it probably has to do with the high interest rates still being fairly high.
 
Do presidents control spending?

Ultimately Congress.

The only part of spending that has actually already changed is how the president implements the executive branch, so what you're seeing is how utterly ineffectual all those touted cuts were to the executive departments.

I would be curious to hear what conservatives really think has lead to this result, as, on a policy matter not enough has changed to make inflation truly change because of Trump.
 
Congress is in control of spending...not the president except for the past few months.

I don't even know where to begin with the fact that you apparently don't know that presidents sign annual appropriations bills into law pretty much every year, including every year in the time frame I cited.

Congress does not unilaterally pass FY budgets without presidential approval. They have an option of overriding presidential vetoes with a 2/3rds vote in each chamber, but that hasn't been done with any annual appropriations bill vetoes during W. Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden presidencies.

In other words, all of those presidents signed off on every annual appropriations bill that has been put into action since 2001.
 
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Do presidents control spending?

W. Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden signed into law all the FY appropriations bills that were put into action during their presidencies. Congress did not overturn any annual appropriation bill vetoes by POTUS in 2001-2025.
 
Biden inherited a booming economy that was seeing massive reductions in unemployment, low inflation and massive positive gains in income and multiple quarters of gdp growth, falling childhood poverty. It was the envy of the world.

Pretty good start for any president.
Biden? Really. :rolleyes:

 
I don't even know where to begin with the fact that you apparently don't know that presidents sign annual appropriations bills into law pretty much every year, including every year in the time frame I cited.

Congress does not unilaterally pass FY budgets without presidential approval. They have an option of overriding presidential vetoes with a 2/3rds vote in each chamber, but that hasn't been done with any annual appropriations bill vetoes during W. Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden presidencies.

In other words, all of those presidents signed off on every annual appropriations bill that has been put into action since 2001.
Who creates the budget?
 
The budget is created by Congress and passed by Congress. The only hand the president has is signing it.
Incorrect:

A) The POTUS submits a proposal and engages in negotiations with congress in exchange for an agreement to sign the budget into law.

B) The president can veto it if they don’t approve of it. Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden all chose to sign each annual budget instead of vetoing.

They own the budgets they voluntarily signed into law. They could’ve vetoed if they disapproved, but they didn’t.
 
Incorrect:

A) The POTUS submits a proposal and engages in negotiations with congress in exchange for an agreement to sign the budget into law.

B) The president can veto it if they don’t approve of it. Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden all chose to sign each annual budget instead of vetoing.

They own the budgets they voluntarily signed into law. They could’ve vetoed if they disapproved, but they didn’t.
The Congress entirely controls the budget and you intentionally skipped over the link showing you Trump added far more debt that Biden
 

From your link:

Bush added $4.21 trillion
Obama added $7.66 trillion
Trump added $7.8 trillion
Biden added $8.46 trillion

All voluntarily signed those budgets into law and none of the annual budgets were the result of Congress overriding a presidential veto.
 
The Congress entirely controls the budget

No, it merely submits the proposal in coordination with input from POTUS and other agencies. POTUS signs the budget into law or vetoes it, but all annual budgets from 2001-2025 have been signed into law by POTUS.
and you intentionally skipped over the link showing you Trump added far more debt that Biden

You must be confused. You didn’t post that link in the quote I was responding to. Therefore, I responded to that link in a separate post.

However, as I already pointed out, Biden’s added debt in his one term was more than Trump in his first term, according to your own link.
 
From your link:

Bush added $4.21 trillion
Obama added $7.66 trillion
Trump added $7.8 trillion
Biden added $8.46 trillion

All voluntarily signed those budgets into law and none of the annual budgets were the result of Congress overriding a presidential veto.
Trump added 39% in 4 years. Biden added 30% Care to explain why Trump needs to add 3.8 trillion more while slashing our programs and infrastructure by about 90%?
 
Biden? Really. :rolleyes:

See!! Look at those five numbers:

1. Unemployment was falling quickly and jobs were booming.

2. The same percentage of people were behind on rent in 2023...
https://www.federalreserve.gov/publ... was a slight uptick,they were behind in 2022.

Was there economy good or bad in 2023?

3. Hungry/impoverished children actually DOUBLED under Biden - it was better before he took office.

4. Real GDP growth - gdp was like +25% and + 5% in the two quarters before Biden took office - that's pretty bad ass. Nothing to sneeze at; which country wouldn't love those numbers?

5. Retail sales - fell more in multiple months in 2023... and in 2024... was the economy bad then, or was it booming?


One month of slightly declining retail sales does not a bad economy make...


This is the difference between knowing the data, and regurgitating talking points one doesn't understand....
 
Trump added 39% in 4 years. Biden added 30% Care to explain why Trump needs to add 3.8 trillion more while slashing our programs and infrastructure by about 90%?

Why are you suddenly changing to percent? The discussion is how much total debt each president added to the debt, in dollars, during their term.

Stop trying to change the goalpost. Of course when N is bigger under Biden the total percentage of debt added by him is smaller. That’s basic math.

By your logic, Trump was far better in his first term than Obama, who added 55% to the overall debt in 2009-2013.
 
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