Cops on leave after Taser incident, student's behavior under scrutiny

[akyron]

Cops on leave after Taser incident, student's behavior under scrutiny


"(CNN) -- Two University of Florida police officers were placed on leave with pay after using an electronic stun gun to subdue a student who was questioning Sen. John Kerry at a campus forum, the school's president said Tuesday.


Student Andrew Meyer is surrounded by university police in Gainesville, Florida, on Monday.

But the student's behavior and past activities are prompting questions about whether the incident was part of a stunt."



Video of the incident.
YouTube - Student Tasered At Kerry Speech: Longer Version



An obvious stunt--"Dont tase me bro!!" rofl
I think the security should be promoted to senate hearing security. There would be a lot of tingly code pink supporters.


Do you think they should have gang tackled him or let him rant on to the frankenberry representative?

 

[bhkad]

Cops on leave after Taser incident, student's behavior under scrutiny


"(CNN) -- Two University of Florida police officers were placed on leave with pay after using an electronic stun gun to subdue a student who was questioning Sen. John Kerry at a campus forum, the school's president said Tuesday.


Student Andrew Meyer is surrounded by university police in Gainesville, Florida, on Monday.

But the student's behavior and past activities are prompting questions about whether the incident was part of a stunt."



Video of the incident.
YouTube - Student Tasered At Kerry Speech: Longer Version



An obvious stunt--"Dont tase me bro!!" rofl
I think the security should be promoted to senate hearing security. There would be a lot of tingly code pink supporters.


Do you think they should have gang tackled him or let him rant on to the frankenberry representative?

They acted more than appropriately except for one thing.

They didn't taze him ENOUGH.

I would still be zapping his drama queen ***.

 

[RightOfCenter]

They really had no reason to arrest him, but once they made the decision to he did resist and they were well within their rights to taser him.

 

[bhkad]

They really had no reason to arrest him, but once they made the decision to he did resist and they were well within their rights to taser him.

They may NOT have intended to arrest him until he started disobeying lawful orders and resisting.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The kids lucky he didn't get shot, he stormed the stage in order to grab a mike he could have had a gun, a knife, anything, the officers showed restraint.

 

[A_Wise_Fool]

The campus is private property. If they ask you to leave and you don't do it they can arrest you, especially if it's a perceivable threat.

It sure looked like the guy was pinned down by 4 officers and handcuffed when he was tasered though. That might be a point of concern. Campus police are notorious for bad decision making.

 

[Hatuey]

The kids lucky he didn't get shot, he stormed the stage in order to grab a mike he could have had a gun, a knife, anything, the officers showed restraint.

...lest we forget the fact that John Kerry has bodyguards/security. How many high profile politicians do you know of would just show up at an event without any kind of security there or government appointed bodyguards? Much less no security people searching all those entering just so that such situations can be avoided? It would be awfully brave of any politician to run around without any type of security.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

...lest we forget the fact that John Kerry has bodyguards/security. How many high profile politicians do you know of would just show up at an event without any kind of security there or government appointed bodyguards? Much less no security people searching all those entering just so that such situations can be avoided? It would be awfully brave of any politician to run around without any type of security.

What's your point? Are you asserting that people can't smuggle things in? Bush almost got killed by a grenade and he's the President.

 

[Hatuey]

What's your point? Are you asserting that people can't smuggle things in? Bush almost got killed by a grenade and he's the President.

Rofl...yeah he was almost killed....except for the fact that the grenade was for training purposes that wouldn't have posed a threat even if it had come within 3 feet of the president w. Not only that but he had bulletproof glass between him and the audience. So if he'd had come within 10 feet of the president with gun. He still wouldn't have succeeded. This is a case of failed security of behalf of the Russians. Still. My point stands. There was security there. They probably searched everyone thoroughly. I doubt this kid would have been able to sneak in anything bigger then a pocket knife.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Rofl...yeah he was almost killed....except for the fact that the grenade was for training purposes that wouldn't have posed a threat even if it had come within 3 feet of the president w. Not only that but he had bulletproof glass between him and the audience. So if he'd had come within 10 feet of the president with gun. He still wouldn't have succeeded. This is a case of failed security of behalf of the Russians. Still. My point stands. There was security there. They probably searched everyone thoroughly. I doubt this kid would have been able to sneak in anything bigger then a pocket knife.

And your evidence that they searched everyone is what exactly? And my point still stands the guy got a grenade passed secret service which is far more expansive for the President than it would be for an irrelevant has been like Kerry.

 

[Hatuey]

And your evidence that they searched everyone is what exactly?

The same as yours about what "he could have done". The difference is mine is a lot more in touch with reality. It's no secret that Kerry travels with security. Therefor it is highly unlikely that he was at a close conference event where people weren't thoroughly searched.

And my point still stands the guy got a grenade passed secret service which is far more expansive for the President than it would be for an irrelevant has been like Kerry.

He didn't get anything past Russian secret service. The event was held in an open space. As opposed to this event. Which was held in some auditorium looking room with tons of security around. I doubt they didn't even do the minimal to search him.

It's a small picture but you get the idea(Bush/Grenade incident) :

 

[bhkad]

Rofl...yeah he was almost killed....except for the fact that the grenade was for training purposes that wouldn't have posed a threat even if it had come within 3 feet of the president w. Not only that but he had bulletproof glass between him and the audience. So if he'd had come within 10 feet of the president with gun. He still wouldn't have succeeded. This is a case of failed security of behalf of the Russians. Still. My point stands. There was security there. They probably searched everyone thoroughly. I doubt this kid would have been able to sneak in anything bigger then a pocket knife.

We don't know whether the assailant knew the grenade was a dud or if he thought it was real.

Furthermore, there are armor piercing grenades now that can defeat bulletproof glass.

You seem to have a habit of asserting your knowledge as the best that exists on a matter when it often isn't.

 

[buttonpsi]

What made me laugh really are the things Kerry said, and the way he said them. Listen to the audio when the kid is being taken away. Kerry is like "....uhmmmm..no officers...".."uhhhhmmm"...

He had no idea how to deal with the confrontation. I think he might have been a little concerned that his connection with the Skull & Bones and the arrest of the kid would raise more questions. He seemed REALLY nervous about them making a scene. Personaly, I think the whole Skull and Bones issue doesn't belong in conspiracy theory world...but is a big deal.

We even had a minor political party in the USA against freemasonry.

The Anti-Masonic Party was formed in upstate New York in 1826, and was the first third party in American national politics.

Many people feared the Masons, alleging that it was a powerful, secret society that was trying to rule the country in defiance of republican principles. Other objections were to Freemasonry's links to the occult, witchcraft, and ceremonial magic. They came together to form a political party after the Morgan incident convinced them the Masons were murdering their opponents. The key episode was the mysterious disappearance, in 1826, of William Morgan (c. 1775-c. 1826), a Freemason of Batavia, New York, who had become dissatisfied with his Order and claimed he was going to publish secrets about the local lodge. When his purpose became known to the lodge, Morgan was subjected to frequent annoyances, and finally in September 1826 he was seized and surreptitiously taken to Fort Niagara, after which he disappeared.

Anti-Masonic Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was a real issue then, when only ONE of the candidates belonged to a secret society...Imagine what those people would say now.

 

[aps]

The whole scene was appalling. I could hardly watch it because I found it that disturbing. I hope those cops get into trouble. They unquestionably overreacted, and I love that people were there to film it. I hope the guy brings charges against them--I know I would.

Those of you who are laughing, you should be ashamed of yourself. I wonder how you would feel if it was someone in your family, although maybe you still would laugh. I am sickened by you.

 

[Cold Highway]

Im surprised the right wingers arent supporting the kid who couldve attacked Kerry since Kerry is an evil traitor and all. A night stick beating wouldve been fun to watch, dumb *** jock.

 

[akyron]

The whole scene was appalling. I could hardly watch it because I found it that disturbing. I hope those cops get into trouble. They unquestionably overreacted, and I love that people were there to film it. I hope the guy brings charges against them--I know I would.

Those of you who are laughing, you should be ashamed of yourself. I wonder how you would feel if it was someone in your family, although maybe you still would laugh. I am sickened by you.

Please..It was a complete setup. Once the cameras went off he had a complete attitude change. Read the reports.

"I love that people were there to film it"....
.HE GAVE AN UNSUSPECTING LADY HIS CAMERA TO SPECIFICALLY FILM HIS ANTICS.

drama stunt. He got exactly what he wanted.


Taser boy-"a history of taping his own practical jokes"


Andrew Meyer, professional taunter

"he asked, at one point, if cameras would be present at the jail."

"As (Meyer) was escorted down stairs (at the University Auditorium) with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down stairs he started screaming and yelling again," Mallo wrote."


A jackass interfering with Kerrys free speech milking his video moment of fame.

"one of the many videos circulating of the incident was shot with Meyer's own camera."

 

[Dr_Patrick]

Cops on leave after Taser incident, student's behavior under scrutiny


"(CNN) -- Two University of Florida police officers were placed on leave with pay after using an electronic stun gun to subdue a student who was questioning Sen. John Kerry at a campus forum, the school's president said Tuesday.


Student Andrew Meyer is surrounded by university police in Gainesville, Florida, on Monday.

But the student's behavior and past activities are prompting questions about whether the incident was part of a stunt."



Video of the incident.
YouTube - Student Tasered At Kerry Speech: Longer Version



An obvious stunt--"Dont tase me bro!!" rofl
I think the security should be promoted to senate hearing security. There would be a lot of tingly code pink supporters.


Do you think they should have gang tackled him or let him rant on to the frankenberry representative?

I think it's obvious that the cops took it way too far. The guy was already down when they started to tase him. Whether it was a stunt or not, the cops acted inappropriately. A person shouldn't get abused because they are asking questions. The guy was screaming for help the whole time. They didn't need 4 cops to restrain one guy who was acting out. It was completely ridiculous.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

The kids lucky he didn't get shot, he stormed the stage in order to grab a mike he could have had a gun, a knife, anything, the officers showed restraint.

Absolutley right....



"DON'T TAZE ME BRO!, AAAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!" :lol:

 

[Caine]

The campus is private property. If they ask you to leave and you don't do it they can arrest you, especially if it's a perceivable threat.

It sure looked like the guy was pinned down by 4 officers and handcuffed when he was tasered though. That might be a point of concern. Campus police are notorious for bad decision making.

I think it's obvious that the cops took it way too far. The guy was already down when they started to tase him. Whether it was a stunt or not, the cops acted inappropriately. A person shouldn't get abused because they are asking questions. The guy was screaming for help the whole time. They didn't need 4 cops to restrain one guy who was acting out. It was completely ridiculous.

So.... how many would ya'll have suggested?
Would you have suggested the others sit back and watch?
What would have happened if the kid would have jumped up to attack the lone officer out of 4 who was going to attempt to handcuff him? What do you suggest the other 3 who were present do? Stick their thumbs up their asses?
:roll:
You people have no clue what excessive force really means.

 

[WI Crippler]

What a drama queen. He's being escorted and he's screaming like he just fell off the side of an oceanliner in the middle of the Atlantic. This was an obvious set up for whatever reason.

Don't tase me bro?? What a joke.

I love the tag lines for the link you put up Akyron. Off to the right of the video the tag lines were "repression", and "dictatorship". Hilarious stuff.

Although you should never question Skull & Bones, its akin to asking the moderators about rule 6a......:2razz:

 

[Dr_Patrick]

So.... how many would ya'll have suggested?
Would you have suggested the others sit back and watch?
What would have happened if the kid would have jumped up to attack the lone officer out of 4 who was going to attempt to handcuff him? What do you suggest the other 3 who were present do? Stick their thumbs up their asses?
:roll:
You people have no clue what excessive force really means.

The point is that the kid didn't get up and attack a lone officer, nor did he do any of the other things that you listed. The guy was already down and they tased him. It was completely unnecessary.

 

[Caine]

The point is that the kid didn't get up and attack a lone officer, nor did he do any of the other things that you listed. The guy was already down and they tased him. It was completely unnecessary.

So, because he wasn't doing it... AT THE TIME... means we give him the opportunity to do so?

Had a car thief once start feigning some sort of medical problem so we had to get him out of the car cause we thought we were going to have to try some CPR (he was actually just holding his breath). We called for Medic and waited for them to arrive... Do you think we sat with only one officer holding him and the other two with their thumbs up their asses? No... All three of us held him down even though he wasn't trying to get up at the time, because we were then PREPARED for the guy to get up in the event that he tried.

You don't wait until a **** up occurs to use the right amount of force, you use what you have to ensure nothing ****ed up happens. What would everyone be saying right now if the kid ended up getting away because three officers were standing around with their thumbs up their asses while one was trying to do all the work and the kid just kicked the one guy in the face and ran?

Think about it, apparently people don't realize that we have to prepare for the worst in this job. Otherwise there would have been alot more dead cops than there already are.

 

[imprtnrd]

I can't see on the tape the guy did anything wrong. Big deal he grab the mic.

 

[Cold Highway]

I can't see on the tape the guy did anything wrong. Big deal he grab the mic.

Actually grabbing the mic out of someone's hand is considered assualt now.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

The point is that the kid didn't get up and attack a lone officer, nor did he do any of the other things that you listed. The guy was already down and they tased him. It was completely unnecessary.

So you are suggesting the officers leave the level of force up to the perp? Are you suggesting they risk thier lives on an unknown. Watching and listening to that video I would have thought him cranked out. I wouldn't risk my life by "going easy", I would expect to subdue him wth all the force needed and percieved neccessary to do so.