Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citizens

[Jango]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Try expressing yourself clearly in future.



Now you're just talking ****.

It was expressed just fine.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Because they arrive at the same conclusion that you do in regards to the pre-attack warnings involving Israel and Israelis via text messaging while primarily using junk sources. But, it fits your confirmation bias just nicely.

What a load of ****. You cannot demonstrate that your belief has any validity, nor could you provide sources to prove 9/11 Myths wrong. Basically, it's just more anti-Israeli junk. Confirmation bias much?

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

It was expressed just fine.

Er, no, because you didn't qualify your remark, so it was poorly expressed. You are quite partial to being vague.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Good. It's good to see that you know how to vet a source. The bad thing remains that you don't do it very well when the sources match your talking points.

well suffice to say, it only takes an iq of "1" to know that was a direct transcript directly quoting the original source itself, hence the lunacy in those red herring posts pretending the transcriber was the source.

You will find that these people are never ****ing right about ANYTHING, its all red herrings and straw bull****.

The difference between truthers and debunkers is that truthers may make occasional mistakes but debunkers simply post non stop propaganda to bog threads down.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Er, no, because you didn't qualify your remark, so it was poorly expressed. You are quite partial to being vague.

case in point

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

case in point

Do you ever post without brain dead insults and jibes? Just because you have no understanding of source criticism, doesn't mean you can dismiss it with a dumbass hand wave and a false understanding of what constitutes a Red Herring. I know you're not well educated, but you should look into a concept before you spew nonsense about it in a negative fashion, for that is just the action of an idiot. Are you an idiot?

However, it does explain why you use Rense and Global Research as sources without criticism-no critical thinking skills.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Because they arrive at the same conclusion that you do in regards to the pre-attack warnings involving Israel and Israelis via text messaging while primarily using junk sources. But, it fits your confirmation bias just nicely.

How is the analysis of the so-called 'junk sources' going? How did you determine they were 'junk'? Come on, I've been waiting for you to support your personal attacks with something of substance. Surely you can back up your claims? Can you give me a detailed analysis of all the reports and demonstrate how one is more accurate than the other?

Let's not derail this thread with such BS, would you like to take it to a fresh thread? I'm ready to debate the issue and critique the various sources in an academic fashion. Are you willing to do that? Let's work out the details of the premise and have at it, it will be fun.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Do you ever post without brain dead insults and jibes? Just because you have no understanding of source criticism, doesn't mean you can dismiss it with a dumbass hand wave and a false understanding of what constitutes a Red Herring. I know you're not well educated, but you should look into a concept before you spew nonsense about it in a negative fashion, for that is just the action of an idiot. Are you an idiot?

However, it does explain why you use Rense and Global Research as sources without criticism-no critical thinking skills.

well than wise the **** up and stop posting red herrings that are not only irrelevant and off topic but misapplied to the OP and following thread and wrong.

The bull**** you posted does no such thing on any level.

If you want to hear yourself talk then make a ****ing thread about ****ing source vetting and save us the bull**** off topic distraction.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

How is the analysis of the so-called 'junk sources' going?

not very well when you post dumb assed **** like that referring to a god damned transcript from the original first hand source.


there you go folks debunker SOP

 

[Jango]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

What a load of ****. You cannot demonstrate that your belief has any validity, nor could you provide sources to prove 9/11 Myths wrong. Basically, it's just more anti-Israeli junk. Confirmation bias much?

Except that I am not anti-Israel. And yes, I did demonstrate that "my belief" has validity by quoting the boss of the company the text messages went through by one of Israel's leading newspapers. You choose to question his quote.

 

[Jango]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

How is the analysis of the so-called 'junk sources' going? How did you determine they were 'junk'? Come on, I've been waiting for you to support your personal attacks with something of substance. Surely you can back up your claims? Can you give me a detailed analysis of all the reports and demonstrate how one is more accurate than the other?

Let's not derail this thread with such BS, would you like to take it to a fresh thread? I'm ready to debate the issue and critique the various sources in an academic fashion. Are you willing to do that? Let's work out the details of the premise and have at it, it will be fun.

If you want to, sure, we can "debate" that in so far as you don't ignore or try to muddy the waters about what the CEO said:

I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made.

The debate should end there. He admitted that it had happened. It is just another check in the foreknowledge category.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

well than wise the **** up and stop posting red herrings that are not only irrelevant and off topic but misapplied to the OP and following thread and wrong.

The bull**** you posted does no such thing on any level.

If you want to hear yourself talk then make a ****ing thread about ****ing source vetting and save us the bull**** off topic distraction.

Source criticism is neither 'off-topic' or a 'Red Herring', please research source criticism for a better understanding of the process. If you don't like the practice in your threads that is your problem. Why don't you 'vet' your silly sources before you post in order to avert the educated critiquing them? Just an idea.

 

[NWO_Spook]

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Except that I am not anti-Israel. And yes, I did demonstrate that "my belief" has validity by quoting the boss of the company the text messages went through by one of Israel's leading newspapers. You choose to question his quote.

Please revise the exchange for clarity, you have the details wrong. Furthermore, I never accused you of being anti-Israel, I said it (meaning the story)was anti-Israel BS.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

If you want to, sure, we can "debate" that in so far as you don't ignore or try to muddy the waters about what the CEO said:

I never denied what he said, please revise the exchange for clarity. Do you ever check anything before you mouth off? The CEO knew of a rumour warning to two employees in ISRAEL on the day, but he was quite vague regarding his knowledge of the warning and from memory he couldn't even confirm its authenticity, or its origin. Please get it right.

The debate should end there. He admitted that it had happened. It is just another check in the foreknowledge category.

You stated that 9/11 Myths used poor sources, that is what I want to debate. Please read my post again for better understanding. I want you to demonstrate how 9/11 Myths employed poor sources, I hope that is clear enough for you, but if you are still confused I could try to explain it again. Are you up for it? I'm keen.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Source criticism is neither 'off-topic' or a 'Red Herring', please research source criticism for a better understanding of the process. If you don't like the practice in your threads that is your problem. Why don't you 'vet' your silly sources before you post in order to avert the educated critiquing them? Just an idea.

yeh it is when the source is first hand DUH!

what you are insisting upon as a rational argument is as ****ing stoopid as vetting you as the source of your own post. geezus **** already

 

[KokomoJojo]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

The debate should end there.

It should until you factor in the insanity of debunkers.

 

[Jango]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Please revise the exchange for clarity, you have the details wrong. Furthermore, I never accused you of being anti-Israel, I said it (meaning the story)was anti-Israel BS.

Why? Because Alex Jones said it was? I'm not saying that, so quit assuming I mean that. Foreknowledge has been well known for years now. What's the major malfunction?

 

[Jango]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

I never denied what he said, please revise the exchange for clarity. Do you ever check anything before you mouth off? The CEO knew of a rumour warning to two employees in ISRAEL on the day, but he was quite vague regarding his knowledge of the warning and from memory he couldn't even confirm its authenticity, or its origin. Please get it right.



You stated that 9/11 Myths used poor sources, that is what I want to debate. Please read my post again for better understanding. I want you to demonstrate how 9/11 Myths employed poor sources, I hope that is clear enough for you, but if you are still confused I could try to explain it again. Are you up for it? I'm keen.

Is talking about 9/11 Myths that important? Are you a contributor, editor, owner...? What's so important about that site that you're wanting to go to the mats over it? I criticized it because while trying to debunk the matter, they use Alex Jones and some religious bull**** site to make the conspiracy argument instead of stopping after copying and pasting what the CEO said. And just because the CEO didn't leave a neat little basket of full disclosure does not undermine the fact he admitted that a warning was issued.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Is talking about 9/11 Myths that important? Are you a contributor, editor, owner...? What's so important about that site that you're wanting to go to the mats over it? I criticized it because while trying to debunk the matter, they use Alex Jones and some religious bull**** site to make the conspiracy argument instead of stopping after copying and pasting what the CEO said. And just because the CEO didn't leave a neat little basket of full disclosure does not undermine the fact he admitted that a warning was issued.

Why don't you address Spooks points?

 

[Thoreau72]

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HUH????

wtf does kosovo have to do with the CIA creating a weaponized term 'conspiracy theory' to ward off inquiry into the JFK assassination by American citizens?

It has nothing to do with it, but it reveals how changing the subject is a primary tactic of one that has lost a debate.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

yeh it is when the source is first hand DUH!

what you are insisting upon as a rational argument is as ****ing stoopid as vetting you as the source of your own post. geezus **** already

You have no idea of what you are blathering about, do you?

 

[NWO_Spook]

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Why? Because Alex Jones said it was? I'm not saying that, so quit assuming I mean that. Foreknowledge has been well known for years now. What's the major malfunction?

Are you actually reading what I write, or are reading what you want into it?

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

Is talking about 9/11 Myths that important? Are you a contributor, editor, owner...? What's so important about that site that you're wanting to go to the mats over it? I criticized it because while trying to debunk the matter, they use Alex Jones and some religious bull**** site to make the conspiracy argument instead of stopping after copying and pasting what the CEO said. And just because the CEO didn't leave a neat little basket of full disclosure does not undermine the fact he admitted that a warning was issued.

LOL, just back up a bit.

The original claim:

The Jewish workers in the WTC were forewarned of the terror attack, so they didn't show up for work on 9/11.

That of course, is not even remotely true.

This is closer to reality:

The CEO of an Israeli company that had an office in the WTC knew of a rumoured warning supposedly received by two of his employees in ISRAEL on the morning of the attack.

Are you getting this at all? There is a huge difference. Need I explain it further?

Now, back to your claim of 9/11 myths utilising poor sources. Are you willing to take my challenge regarding your claim, or are you just going to **** around? Just because 9/11 Myths utilised sources that don't agree with your confirmation bias doesn't necessarily prove they are invalid. It will take a little more than that. So, can you demonstrate how these sources are invalid or weak as you state?

So, if this indicates 'foreknowledge', how do you expect agencies to respond to such vague information? How could the agencies even determine whether it was valid? Especially, in the given time frame (remember, it was morning in Israel when the calls were supposedly received).

 

[NWO_Spook]

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Why don't you address Spooks points?

I suggest that it was an off the cuff remark that he felt I wouldn't challenge, now he has difficulty in supporting the claim.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: Conspiracy Theory CIA's Weapon of Mass Deception Deployed Against American Citize

I suggest that it was an off the cuff remark that he felt I wouldn't challenge, now he has difficulty in supporting the claim.

Perhaps.