Considering the GOP are poised to keep the House of Representatives...

[j brown's body]

...was it politically wise of the House Democrats to bail out the GOP during their Speaker and spending bill battles? Should they not have allowed them to wallow in their own ineptitude? Wouldn't the GOP have done that to them?

 

[Slavister]

...was it politically wise of the House Democrats to bail out the GOP during their Speaker and spending bill battles? Should they not have allowed them to wallow in their own ineptitude? Wouldn't the GOP have done that to them?

Yes it was wise. It was a deal to avert government shutdown (IIRC!) which is good not only for the country but also politically, since it would have been blamed on Biden administration despite being caused by Putin party.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

When in doubt, do the right thing.

 

[nvflash]

When in doubt, do the right thing.

Was no right and wrong in it, just cold calculating politics.

Anyways, how many (R) have dropped, just Gaetz?

Margins are very slim, I only count 217 (R). What races are outstanding?

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Was no right and wrong in it, just cold calculating politics.

Anyways, how many (R) have dropped, just Gaetz?

Margins are very slim, I only count 217 (R). What races are outstanding?

If you go by AP it is 218-212 Republican with 5 still uncalled. Republicans lead in 4 of those.

This doesn’t take into account the 3 nominations to Trump cabinet positions.

 

[nvflash]

If you go by AP it is 218-212 Republican with 5 still uncalled. Republicans lead in 4 of those.

This doesn’t take into account the 3 nominations to Trump cabinet positions.

So what happens to those seats?

I mean Gaetz already resigned, I assume special elections, but does the GOP get to keep control of the House with less than 218 active members?

What are the rules of that?

Speaking of the term that starts Jan. 3rd 2025.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

So what happens to those seats?

I mean Gaetz already resigned, I assume special elections, but does the GOP get to keep control of the House with less than 218 active members?

What are the rules of that?

Governors in the states where those members of Congress of from call special elections. The seats remain vacant until then.

They just need a majority. And only Gaetz has resigned. The others will be there on January 3rd.

 

[nvflash]

Governors in the states where those members of Congress of from call special elections. The seats remain vacant until then.

They just need a majority. And only Gaetz has resigned. The others will be there on January 3rd.

Ok, so vacant seats just don't count until they are filled.

Best (D) can do at this point is win all of the outstanding 5 races, but would that not leave a 217-217 tie?

Are we just assuming (R) is going to win some of those and not really overthinking it like I am?

 

[j brown's body]

Yes it was wise. It was a deal to avert government shutdown (IIRC!) which is good not only for the country but also politically, since it would have been blamed on Biden administration despite being caused by Putin party.

Do you think the GOP would have done the same? I doubt it.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Ok, so vacant seats just don't count until they are filled.

Best (D) can do at this point is win all of the outstanding 5 races, but would that not leave a 217-217 tie?

Are we just assuming (R) is going to win some of those and not really overthinking it like I am?

That would leave a tie but I think that is unlikely. It could happen but it probably won’t. I think the best Democrats can do is 2 of the 5 and that relies on ranked choice voting in AK-01 going their way.

 

[nvflash]

That would leave a tie but I think that is unlikely. It could happen but it probably won’t. I think the best Democrats can do is 2 of the 5 and that relies on ranked choice voting in AK-01 going their way.

Interesting, don't remember a House vote this close before, and you toss in the 3 nominations for (R) it's a little confusing.

Thanks for enlightening me.

 

[Slavister]

Do you think the GOP would have done the same? I doubt it.

Hard to say - but it does not take away from my answer.