Conservatives tried to hijack Juneteenth Day by claiming Republicans freed the slaves

[CLAX1911]

IDGAF what you call partisan hackery.

Well that's what it is I call things what they are.

What you call partisan hackery is my freedom from being ruled by the likes of you.

I don't want a lot of your laws, and I want absolutely NONE of your patriarchal, theocratic, white supremacist culture.

What the hell are you talking about?

And I would accept anything even a full-on meteor strike from space, as a condition to break your people's political dominance. Do take that seriously.

Anything but a competent candidate right?

 

[tharock220]

Not conceding to your fantasy doesn't say anything about me. That's not how logic works.

If you had bothered to ask me instead of engaging in that frail fantasy I would of told you that I happily support reparations including the creation of Native American nations (plural) akin to Israel with the full backing and support of the American government and it's military but then again I also support the same for the creation of a Black American nation. Carve this ****er up and divide its wealth, that's fine by me.

It's on you to explain how your suggestion gets me to my political goals and you cant either through lack of intelligence or because we both know this isn't a real argument.

A run of the milll illogical republican with an argument that makes no sense and that they themselves can't explain.

All you're getting is your own fantasy because you cant deal with the irrationality of your argument. You have yet to explain how me doing what you want would result in Native Americans receiving justice for the injustices done to them. I on the other hand can easily explain how supporting candidates and policies that intend to do that can actually accomplish that goal.

You don't have any clue about what my actions are. This is just more fantasy. The only thing you know for certain is that I haven't bought into your silly premise because youve been unable to explain it, rationally.

A run of the milll Republican who isn't intelligent enough to understand that fantasy arguments aren't rational arguments.

I'm glad you think about me enough that you've responded to the same quote twice.

You don't need to wait for government to offer reparations to blacks or Indians. The fact that you refuse to do anything in response to government's inaction on the matter is proof. Like I said, actions speak louder than words.

So you'll continue to share stuff on Facebook, support land acknowledgements, and do anything else that requires no effort. If you were capable of action, you wouldn't be a lolberal.

 

[Master Debator]

I'm glad you think about me enough that you've responded to the same quote twice.

That's how little I remembered you.

You don't need to wait for government to offer reparations to blacks or Indians. The fact that you refuse to do anything in response to government's inaction on the matter is proof. Like I said, actions speak louder than words.

That's like suggesting a victim of theft can receive justice by others donating to help them recoup what they lost. That is not justice. Justice would be holding the perpetrator accountable for their actions and having them give restitution to their victim. I didn't murder native Americans and drive them off their land. My ancestors were busy being slaves in the Caribbean while America was carrying out that bit of injustice. All I can do as an American citizen today to see that they receive justice is to vote for policies and politicians who will hold this country accountable for its actions.

Thats how logic and rational arguments work. Not that bullshit you come here with where you can't even explain how your suggestion would fulfil the goal of justice. You dont even know what justice is.

So you'll continue to share stuff on Facebook, support land acknowledgements, and do anything else that requires no effort. If you were capable of action, you wouldn't be a lolberal.

I'm not even on Facebook. Keep fashioning your arguments out of pretend and make believe.

 

[tharock220]

That's how little I remembered you.

You spent the whole weekend thinking about me. It's okay. I'm very memorable.

That's like suggesting a victim of theft can receive justice by others donating to help them recoup what they lost. That is not justice. Justice would be holding the perpetrator accountable for their actions and having them give restitution to their victim. I didn't murder native Americans and drive them off their land. My ancestors were busy being slaves in the Caribbean while America was carrying out that bit of injustice. All I can do as an American citizen today to see that they receive justice is to vote for policies and politicians who will hold this country accountable for its actions.

Feel free to hold the perpetrators accountable. You'd rather benefit from their crimes instead.

If that's all you can do, then you're part of the correct political movement. I said it before. There are no liberal men of action because there are no liberal men.

Thats how logic and rational arguments work. Not that bullshit you come here with where you can't even explain how your suggestion would fulfil the goal of justice. You dont even know what justice is.

If you know what justice is, you're clearly not interested in it.

I'm not even on Facebook. Keep fashioning your arguments out of pretend and make believe.

Sure buddy. Just go through life being more concerned with the world knowing you "care" about something more than actually fixing it.

It's the leftard way.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

They were popularly elected and promoted policies that benefit black Americans who still struggle due to the consequences of Jim Crow. So they're hardly symbolic.

On the other hand

Supreme Court Sides With Inmate’s Claims of Jury Racial Bias

...Justice Clarence Thomas, the court’s only African-American member, was the lone dissenter."

I guess someone's not a "real" black unless they think the "right" way.

 

[Master Debator]

You spent the whole weekend thinking about me. It's okay. I thought this thread had died.

So you imagine. Why you'd need to imagine that.... who knows...

Feel free to hold the perpetrators accountable. You'd rather benefit from their crimes instead.

Again, you have no evidence of this beyond your insistence. I've already voiced my agreement in holding the American government accountable.

If that's all you can do, then you're part of the correct political movement. I said it before. There are no liberal men of action because there are no liberal men.

I don't think you understand what those words mean. Men of liberty believe in democracy and in voting for things you want from government rather than using force against others to get your way. Even your make believe arguments can reveal how little you understand about liberty and justice.

If you know what justice is, you're clearly not interested in it.

Based on what? Do you have anything else to add or is that it? Can you describe what conservative men of action would do to get justice for native Americans?

Sure buddy. Just go through life being more concerned with the world knowing you "care" about something more than actually fixing it.

It's the leftard way.

Voting for the action that would hold the government accountable is doing something. How do you imagine government works?

 

[tharock220]

So you imagine. Why you'd need to imagine that.... who knows...

Two responses to the same post. The obvious explanation is you wanted a response. Just PM me next time. You'll look less desparate.

Again, you have no evidence of this beyond your insistence. I've already voiced my agreement in holding the American government accountable.

The evidence is you're "I support this but I'm not actually going to do it" attitude.

I don't think you understand what those words mean. Men of liberty believe in democracy and in voting for things you want from government rather than using force against others to get your way. Even your make believe arguments can reveal how little you understand about liberty and justice.

Government is force. You won't take it upon yourself independently though. If you were willing to, you would be part of a different political party.

Based on what? Do you have anything else to add or is that it? Can you describe what conservative men of action would do to get justice for native Americans?

Based on what you've said. Conservative men accept that we conquered the indians and took their lands. Such things didn't start or end with America's westward expansion.

Voting for the action that would hold the government accountable is doing something. How do you imagine government works?

Good. You've admitted you're not actually interested in doing anything to rectify what you perceive as injustice. You can just say it directly now. It won't hurt.

 

[GhostFence]

Well that's what it is I call things what they are.

You love clinging to delusion, don't you?

What the hell are you talking about?

You heard me. I don't want a lot of your laws, and I want absolutely NONE of your patriarchal, theocratic, white supremacist culture. Do I need to translate this to another language or something?

Anything but a competent candidate right?

She's a woman, that automatically makes her incompetent in your eyes.

 

[GhostFence]

I guess someone's not a "real" black unless they think the "right" way.

This guy was black, too.

 

[CLAX1911]

You love clinging to delusion, don't you?


You heard me.

Well I read what you typed but it made no kind of sense.

I don't want a lot of your laws, and I want absolutely NONE of your patriarchal, theocratic, white supremacist culture. Do I need to translate this to another language or something?

Why do you live here then?

She's a woman, that automatically makes her incompetent in your eyes.

Not really. It's the intoxication that discredited her.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

This guy was black, too.

But obviously not a "real" and "according to @j brown's body" black.

 

[Master Debator]

Two responses to the same post. The obvious explanation is you wanted a response. Just PM me next time. You'll look less desparate.

What do you think the fantasizing looks like?

The evidence is you're "I support this but I'm not actually going to do it" attitude.

How do you know how I vote or what I vote for? More fantasy?

Government is force. You won't take it upon yourself independently though. If you were willing to, you would be part of a different political party.

Political parties are collections of people. Do you want me to do it myself or organize? You cant even keep a consistent argument within the same paragraph!

Based on what you've said. Conservative men accept that we conquered the indians and took their lands. Such things didn't start or end with America's westward expansion.

1. You didnt conquer shit. That happened centuries before you were born. Maybe someone can give you a participation trophy simply being white.

2. Today you're the whites allowing yourselves to be demographically replaced. What your ancestors had to take by force my people are taking from you now by just coming here and having American children.

Good. You've admitted you're not actually interested in doing anything to rectify what you perceive as injustice. You can just say it directly now. It won't hurt.

I guess you don't read to well. That's what happens when you fill your head up with make believe that you're a conqueror.

 

[tharock220]

What do you think the fantasizing looks like?

Did you respond to my post twice? A simple yes or no will do.

How do you know how I vote or what I vote for? More fantasy?

How you vote is irrelevant. Your inaction is in question here. You claim to want to right wrongs, but you haven't done anything yet, you're not doing anything currently, and I think it's safe to say you'll do nothing in the future.

Political parties are collections of people. Do you want me to do it myself or organize? You cant even keep a consistent argument within the same paragraph!

No. I'm saying your impotence and inaction tell me you're already in the correct political party.

1. You didnt conquer shit. That happened centuries before you were born. Maybe someone can give you a participation trophy simply being white.

2. Today you're the whites allowing yourselves to be demographically replaced. What your ancestors had to take by force my people are taking from you now by just coming here and having American children.

I thought it was clear that "we" referred to America and its precursors on this continent.

The difference is I don't pretend to feel bad about it, and I do just as much about it as you do.

You'll read that and try to make yourself feel better by posting on Facebook how much you care.

 

[Master Debator]

Did you respond to my post twice? A simple yes or no will do.

Yes. That doesn't mean you have to fantasize why. I told you I had forgotten about you and you decided to ignore that and fantasize instead. Yes or no?

How you vote is irrelevant. Your inaction is in question here.

Its irrelevant to your fantasy about me giving up my property and it magically becoming native American land. I know. But that's not how that works. When you can explain how this action gets native Americans justice then I'll consider it but you can't because you're just not that intelligent.

You claim to want to right wrongs, but you haven't done anything yet, you're not doing anything currently, and I think it's safe to say you'll do nothing in the future.

Voting for policies that I agree with is doing something. Its hilarious that you think voting is for nothing despite all the Americans who fought and died to be able to do so all so you can defend your magic argument.

No. I'm saying your impotence and inaction tell me you're already in the correct political party.

Me not doing what you want me to and you crying about it is just evidence that someone didn't raise you properly. I bet you threw a fit anytime you didn't get what you wanted in some department store as a kid.

I thought it was clear that "we" referred to America and its precursors on this continent.

That wasnt clear. What's clear is that soft whites wish they could get a participation trophy for the conquering.

The difference is I don't pretend to feel bad about it, and I do just as much about it as you do.

I don't care if you feel bad, I'm laughing at you for the pretend argument of yours. Don't pretend at me like some fantasy fiction writer and expect me not to laugh at you.

You'll read that and try to make yourself feel better by posting on Facebook how much you care.

Again, not on Facebook and you seem to be about the boasting, I'm about the doing. It enough for me that white people are being replaced in their country. I don't need to shout it at passersbys. It's facts that comfort me, not tantrums. Another lesson you probably failed to learn as a child.

 

[tharock220]

Yes.

So you admit to responding to my post twice because you wanted a reaction. Thanks for the honesty.

Its irrelevant to your fantasy about me giving up my property and it magically becoming native American land. I know. But that's not how that works. When you can explain how this action gets native Americans justice then I'll consider it but you can't because you're just not that intelligent.

Return it to its original owners. Bet you won't, assuming you own any property. I think it's clear you're more interested in talking about justice than making it happen.

Voting for policies that I agree with is doing something. Its hilarious that you think voting is for nothing despite all the Americans who fought and died to be able to do so all so you can defend your magic argument.

Voting has its purpose, but you could do so much more. Your refusal speaks volumes.

Me not doing what you want me to and you crying about it is just evidence that someone didn't raise you properly. I bet you threw a fit anytime you didn't get what you wanted in some department store as a kid.

It's not about what I want. Based on the things you've said, I already know what you're going to do. Nothing at all.

That wasnt clear. What's clear is that soft whites wish they could get a participation trophy for the conquering.

Seeing as how the conquest was over a century in the past....I guess I shouldn't have given you that much credit.

I don't care if you feel bad, I'm laughing at you for the pretend argument of yours. Don't pretend at me like some fantasy fiction writer and expect me not to laugh at you.

I don't feel bad. Neither do you, the evidence is your actions, or lack thereof. You'll never be a man of action. You have to be a man first.

Again, not on Facebook and you seem to be about the boasting, I'm about the doing. It enough for me that white people are being replaced in their country. I don't need to shout it at passersbys. It's facts that comfort me, not tantrums. Another lesson you probably failed to learn as a child.

You're on Facebook every year on Columbus Day saying how much you hate Christopher Columbus. Admit it. But that's the extent of it.

I live in a state where whites aren't even a plurality. I share in a neighborhood with the families of Mexican drug cartel heads. They, like me, spend more a year on private school tuition than you earn.

It doesn't bother me in the least. It was a lot more fun watching your side shit themselves when non-whites flipped sides.

 

[Master Debator]

So you admit to responding to my post twice because you wanted a reaction. Thanks for the honesty.

Because I forgot I had already responded to you. Theres no need to pretend otherwise but it does seem to be a pathological need of you and your frail people.

Return it to its original owners. Bet you won't, assuming you own any property. I think it's clear you're more interested in talking about justice than making it happen.

My property is ultimately under the jurisdiction of the American government. Nothing I say or do short of a change in government policy will magically make it Native American land. I can explain my argument, its you who can't explain yours because it isnt serious.

Voting has its purpose, but you could do so much more. Your refusal speaks volumes.

I cant do magic. That isnt within my capabilities despite your desperate fan fiction pretending otherwise.

It's not about what I want. Based on the things you've said, I already know what you're going to do. Nothing at all.

Doing what I can do, which is voting and supporting Native American reparations from the American government is more something than your magic argument.

Seeing as how the conquest was over a century in the past....I guess I shouldn't have given you that much credit.

It you that wanted the participation trophy.

I don't feel bad. Neither do you, the evidence is your actions, or lack thereof. You'll never be a man of action. You have to be a man first.

Memes that reinforce your frail beliefs..... that tracks....

You're on Facebook every year on Columbus Day saying how much you hate Christopher Columbus. Admit it. But that's the extent of it.

Tell me more about what you imagine and fantasize about me.

I live in a state where whites aren't even a plurality. I share in a neighborhood with the families of Mexican drug cartel heads. They, like me, spend more a year on private school tuition than you earn.

Is this a genre a fantasy with magic or a crime saga with drug cartels? Or is it a fantasy crime saga with magic and Mexican cartels? I can't keep track.

It doesn't bother me in the least. It was a lot more fun watching your side shit themselves when non-whites flipped sides.

Not great at math are you?

 

[tharock220]

Because I forgot I had already responded to you. Theres no need to pretend otherwise but it does seem to be a pathological need of you and your frail people.

It's okay. I'm glad you can admit you responded to my last post and the one before it twice because you wanted a response from me.

My property is ultimately under the jurisdiction of the American government. Nothing I say or do short of a change in government policy will magically make it Native American land. I can explain my argument, its you who can't explain yours because it isnt serious.

Except you could return it to its original owners. It doesn't matter what the US government, or anybody else, does.

I cant do magic. That isnt within my capabilities despite your desperate fan fiction pretending otherwise.

It doesn't require magic, just a little effort.

Doing what I can do, which is voting and supporting Native American reparations from the American government is more something than your magic argument.

Why not offer those reparations yourself.

It you that wanted the participation trophy.

I didn't participate. I benefited and don't care. You benefited and claim to care but do nothing of substance.

Memes that reinforce your frail beliefs..... that tracks....

Struck a nerve huh?

Tell me more about what you imagine and fantasize about me.

It's par for the board for your side. I bet you tell yourself you're raising awareness too.

Is this a genre a fantasy with magic or a crime saga with drug cartels? Or is it a fantasy crime saga with magic and Mexican cartels? I can't keep track.

Read again, I share a neighborhood with the families of cartel heads. You'd be surprised how normal they are. There are a lot of legitimately wealthy Mexicans in my area too. My next door neighbor is actually the president of a Mexican insurance broker called NRGI.

Xochitl Galvez has a palace on Lake Woodlands. Embezzling money from a state owned oil company makes those houses easier to afford.

Point is, the growth in my area has been primarily Hispanic and Asian, and I don't care. I share the area with them happily. You're the one fixated on race.

Not great at math are you?

I'm great at math. I can add up all the stuff you've done to right wrongs and know the answer comes out to zero.

I think I gave you too much credit saying it's inaction. I think the correct word is inability.

 

[Master Debator]

It's okay. I'm glad you can admit you responded to my last post and the one before it twice because you wanted a response from me.

I didn't admit that. Thats just you wanting to fantasize that I wanted to hear from you which is adorable and flattering but not reality. I dont care if anyone responds to my posts. I love hearing myself talk. I respond to posts here because I enjoy clowning on them. Whether you respond or not is inconsequential. The clowning already has occured.

Except you could return it to its original owners. It doesn't matter what the US government, or anybody else, does.

I cant return what is ultimately American property and jurisdiction to its original owners. You can pretend that's how it works like how you fantasize about me but it still won't be a reflection of reality. Its just more fantasy from you.

It doesn't require magic, just a little effort.

So explain it if it isnt magic. My home, in an American city, under an HOA, how do I ( non magically) make it Native American land? Go ahead and explain that one Pretender.

Why not offer those reparations yourself.

That's not justice. I advocate for holding those responsible, responsble. If you get held up and robbed at gunpoint justice comes from holding the perpetrator accountable.

I didn't participate. I benefited and don't care. You benefited and claim to care but do nothing of substance.

I dont follow the empty suggestions of people who dont even care. Of course not. No one takes this pretend argument seriously. Why would anyone take you or your pretend argument seriously?

Struck a nerve huh?

The funny bone. Posting the pictures that make you feel better is adorably funny. You should do more of that.

It's par for the board for your side. I bet you tell yourself you're raising awareness too.

Raising awareness?

I enjoy all these fantasies. Apparently you think I give a shit about anyone else's awareness.....

Read again, I share a neighborhood with the families of cartel heads.

I'll read that as many times as you want to post it. It will always get a laugh.

You'd be surprised how normal they are. There are a lot of legitimately wealthy Mexicans in my area too. My next door neighbor is actually the president of a Mexican insurance broker called NRGI.

Good for you.

Xochitl Galvez has a palace on Lake Woodlands. Embezzling money from a state owned oil company makes those houses easier to afford.

Ooo.... Lake Woodlands.... tell me more about your life that I dont care about.....

Point is, the growth in my area has been primarily Hispanic and Asian, and I don't care. I share the area with them happily. You're the one fixated on race.

Yeah, because Id like white trash and their culture to be replaced. I dont care if you're happy about it or sad about it so long as you are replaced. White Trash culture might not care about the effects of colonialism and their genocide of native Americans but the minorities who are replacing you have a different view of white culture and it's atrocious history. Those minority immigrants include me by the way. I came here in my mothers stomach and am the first person in my family to be born in the US. Black and Asian and now since I have such a large family it also includes, Mexican, Cuban, Dominican. Puerto Rican, Peruvian, Jewish, Phillipino, and white in laws. But the good whites. The progressive ones.

I'm great at math. I can add up all the stuff you've done to right wrongs and know the answer comes out to zero.

But you cant add correctly who minorities voted as a majority for? Maybe your math skill are selective to your fragility.

I think I gave you too much credit saying it's inaction. I think the correct word is inability.

All I need is the ability to replace whites and the rest will work itself out.

 

[tharock220]

I didn't admit that. Thats just you wanting to fantasize that I wanted to hear from you which is adorable and flattering but not reality. I dont care if anyone responds to my posts. I love hearing myself talk. I respond to posts here because I enjoy clowning on them. Whether you respond or not is inconsequential. The clowning already has occured.

You already admitted you wanted a response.

I cant return what is ultimately American property and jurisdiction to its original owners. You can pretend that's how it works like how you fantasize about me but it still won't be a reflection of reality. Its just more fantasy from you.

So explain it if it isnt magic. My home, in an American city, under an HOA, how do I ( non magically) make it Native American land? Go ahead and explain that one Pretender.

Give it to an Indian. It's that simple. I suspect the truth is you don't have anything to offer them.

That's not justice. I advocate for holding those responsible, responsble. If you get held up and robbed at gunpoint justice comes from holding the perpetrator accountable.

You only say it's not justice because it's inconvenient for you, and you don't want to do it.

I dont follow the empty suggestions of people who dont even care. Of course not. No one takes this pretend argument seriously. Why would anyone take you or your pretend argument seriously?

You don't care either. Your inaction proves as much.

The funny bone. Posting the pictures that make you feel better is adorably funny. You should do more of that.

Got a response, actually two of them. Keep in mind little fella, you started this conversation with me.

Raising awareness?

It's the catch phrase of all slactivists such as yourself.

I enjoy all these fantasies. Apparently you think I give a shit about anyone else's awareness.....

So you're not trying to raise awareness and you're not actually doing anything. You really don't care, do you?

I'll read that as many times as you want to post it. It will always get a laugh.

I share a neighborhood with the families of Mexican drug cartel leaders.

Good for you.

Ooo.... Lake Woodlands.... tell me more about your life that I dont care about.....

Point is, I don't care. I already live in a state where whites aren't the largest group. You care. You're the one made it an issue.

Yeah, because Id like white trash and their culture to be replaced. I dont care if you're happy about it or sad about it so long as you are replaced. White Trash culture might not care about the effects of colonialism and their genocide of native Americans but the minorities who are replacing you have a different view of white culture and it's atrocious history. Those minority immigrants include me by the way. I came here in my mothers stomach and am the first person in my family to be born in the US. Black and Asian and now since I have such a large family it also includes, Mexican, Cuban, Dominican. Puerto Rican, Peruvian, Jewish, Phillipino, and white in laws. But the good whites. The progressive ones.

We've already established that you're colonizing Indian land and don't care. You don't need to admit it further.

But you cant add correctly who minorities voted as a majority for? Maybe your math skill are selective to your fragility.

Those have swung increasingly Republican. The Supreme Court is now ours for a generation thanks to their votes.

All I need is the ability to replace whites and the rest will work itself out.

It's all you can do to make this about race. Someone as angry as you making so much of skin color is a consquence of unhappiness and a lack of success. I'm sorry you have those feelings.

 

[Master Debator]

You already admitted you wanted a response.

That's more fantasy. I admitted I responded to you twice. You're pretending the rest.

Give it to an Indian. It's that simple. I suspect the truth is you don't have anything to offer them.

I don't care what you suspect, I care what you can prove and articulate.

You only say it's not justice because it's inconvenient for you, and you don't want to do it.

I say it isn't justice because it doesn't fit with the idea of justice that I expressed to you. You haven't shared what justice means to you and how this would achieve it.

You don't care either. Your inaction proves as much.

My inaction proves nothing except to your imagination.

Got a response, actually two of them. Keep in mind little fella, you started this conversation with me.

You have an emotional one you support with fantasy and make believe.

It's the catch phrase of all slactivists such as yourself.



So you're not trying to raise awareness and you're not actually doing anything. You really don't care, do you?

I don't care about your feelings, no. Why would I?

I share a neighborhood with the families of Mexican drug cartel leaders.

And?

Point is, I don't care. I already live in a state where whites aren't the largest group. You care. You're the one made it an issue.

I do care. I care about things that matter to me and I don't care about things that matter to you, that's how that works.

We've already established that you're colonizing Indian land and don't care. You don't need to admit it further.

It was colonized before I got here. What's the time line like in this fantasy of yours?

I'm no more a colonizer than you are a conqueror though they are both things you like to make believe for the sake of your frail arguments.

Those have swung increasingly Republican. The Supreme Court is now ours for a generation thanks to their votes.

No minority group votes majority Republican save for Cubans. As long as minorities keep replacing whites, progressivism will eventually replace conservatism and white cultural values. It takes as long as it takes. I grew up with whites who weren't ashamed to wave around the Confederate flag and now you can barely find a white who'll admit to supporting the slaving Democrats like Lee and Davis. And I understand that started as strategy to attack today's Democrats but the only real affect it has is that the defending the culture of the Confederate South has lost all support. My grandson isnt going to grow up a minority among his peers, racially or culturally. Mixed race births out pace pure white births and these are positive changes that I'm content with. Its the adult generation of these mixed Americans where we can expect to see that cultural change affecting political change.

It's all you can do to make this about race. Such anger due to skin color is a consquence of unhappiness and a lack of success. I'm sorry you have those feelings.

All I've been detailing is success. You whites can't even keep your own country so much so that you're bragging to me you live next to Mexican drug cartels. That's exactly the sort of neighbor I think you and yours should have. Like should stay with like. Trash with trash.