Are you trying to channel Jim Jones or what?Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble - Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com
Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.
Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh — figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.
Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme.
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The Republicans are trembling because the conseratives are roaring to the RightWing base.
They feel that they are now painted into a corner by the likes of Limbaugh and Beck. Funny how they will support each other up to a certain point. That point seems to lie in the area of their nature of one having the need to blame SOMEBODY for their failures.
Health Care is on the verge of passing and apparently with the public option.
This would be considered within the conservative movement to be a total failure. They have to blame somebody and all of their attacks on this administration have fallen on deaf ears. There only choice is to start blaming people on their own side of the aisle. Blaming is their nature.
Is this the beginning of the internal combustion of the Republican party?
Pull up some chairs folks and enjoy the laughs...there will be many laughs to come.
As I have taken pains to explain, we are conducting a political movement, not managing a professional sports team. Victory for the party, without victory of our principles is worthless.Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble - Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com
Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its elec. . . de of the aisle. Blaming is their nature.
Is this the beginning of the internal combustion of the Republican party?
Pull up some chairs folks and enjoy the laughs...there will be many laughs to come.
Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.
The only Republicans standing up to Beck and other conservative activists right now are familiar iconoclasts like Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and New York Times columnist David Brooks — both of whom are distrusted by many Republicans for their frequent departures from conservative orthodoxy.
Lindsey Grahamesty? OMG, I hope they are counting him among true conservatives? He's about as far left as the Republicans go.What top republicans are saying that?
I just read that entire article, and nowhere in it did I see a quote from any "top republican" that said a word about "commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh". Even the quotes from Tim Pawlenty, Karl Rove, and Eric Cantor didn't say anything about conservative personalities and activists. All they were talking about were generalizations and election strategies.
This paragraph on page 2 seems to contradict the message they wanted readers to believe on page 1:
I think you've been fed a line of crap personally... If you read it very carefully, I think many of you will come to believe as I do, that this whole article stinks of liberal bs and quotes taken out of context.
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With all the dissatisfaction of the Democrates, the conservative base is saying you can't be a centrist in the Republican party. I hope they do **** it up for Republicans, then both the party and the base might learn something.
Well if you look at polls, people are more dissatisfied with Republicans by a wide margin than Democrats.. Also I read in a new poll that only 21% of American's call themselves Republican these days.. lowest since 1983.
Hey! You're European aren't you? What are you doing on a US Politics thread? Y'all follow our politics?
Yea I love soap operas.
Yeah, I kinda enjoy watching the Constitution...er....Treaty diplomacy myself. Too bad France cannot control the diplomacy any longer. Long live Poland!
Eh? makes no sense at all ..
France used the developement of the EEC and later the EU to exercise its diplomatic muscle and have international influence through controlling Europe. When the EU started expanding after the Soviet Union collapsed, France lost that influence. Poland is a growing power within the EU and has an oppositional voice to France's interests.
At least, that's the way I see it.
Well you are wrong on almost all fronts. Not to mention this is off topic. IF you want to discuss it then start a thread and I will join.
Well if you look at polls, people are more dissatisfied with Republicans by a wide margin than Democrats.. Also I read in a new poll that only 21% of American's call themselves Republican these days.. lowest since 1983.
My Poll shows Conservatives are surging. More claim Conservatism than moderate or liberal.
Conservatives Maintain Edge as Top Ideological Group
Lindsey Grahamesty? OMG, I hope they are counting him among true conservatives? He's about as far left as the Republicans go.
Apples and Oranges. If you look at polls who ask "are you a Republican, Democrat, Independent" then the last one I saw, showed only 21% said they were Republican.
Plus the question asked in the poll you reference is at best very fluid. A person might think he or she is a "conservative" when asked the question but might not be when he or she is asked in more detail. Its like the old cola test.. ask a person what cola they prefer, a large portion will say Coca Cola, but put them under a blind taste test, Pepsi wins in a majority of cases.
So while the poll might show that people think they are more conservative, it does not mean that they will vote with the Republican party or say they are Republicans.
As someone pointed out, the Repubicans biggest victories were the Reagan era of 1980-88, and the 1994 congressional takeover...both cases where Republicans ran as unabashed conservatives, and then largely pursued a conservative agenda while in office. They started losing when they stopped being conservative.
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