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Conservative Rhetoric Getting More Violent

Geoist

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Anyone else notice the rhetoric of the American rightwing is getting more and more violent?

Recently we had Tucker Carlson ask, 'Why don't we have a real insurrection?" That was his response to another conservative who claimed undocumented immigrants were getting $1400 Visa cards.



We had former national security advisor Michael Flynn agree with a QAnon nutter that we should have a coup like Myanmar did.



And now we have Congressman Matt Gaetz state, "We have a 2nd Amendment in this country and I think we have an obligation to use it." This was in reference to Silicon Valley and Big Tech.



How long before we have some nut assassinate a politician, media figure, or a CEO? This is absolutely ridiculous.
 
Recently we had Tucker Carlson ask, 'Why don't we have a real insurrection?"
If he actually said this, why not post the actual video (as opposed to a video of someone who isn't Tucker Carlson talking)?
 
After reading your post, I'm sure everyone can imagine Tucker saying in his own defense, "But I'm only asking questions!"

I really dislike seeing a gullible and conspiracy-minded subset of our populace getting so transparently ginned up by politicians and talking heads who will later assume no responsibility if someone gets all January 6th-y again in direct response to what these people have said.

Politics aside, to what extent should public figures bear responsibility for their violent rhetoric?
 
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If he actually said this, why not post the actual video (as opposed to a video of someone who isn't Tucker Carlson talking)?

If he actually said this? I hardly ever watch Tucker, and I've seen the video at least three times now.


1:06 mark.

Wait, don't say it, we know we know, Tucker was only kidding. No wait! Locker room talk. Sarcasm?
 
If he actually said this, why not post the actual video (as opposed to a video of someone who isn't Tucker Carlson talking)?
TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): What do you mean they are given a $1,400 Visa debit card?

MCLAUGHLIN: I haven't been able to confirm this yet. But I have been told that they're giving you, these immigrant families, they're in these hotels. They're giving them a $14, I mean, a $1,400 Visa card that they can go out and --

CARLSON: Why don't we have a real insurrection at some point? Like why would we put up with this?

MCLAUGHLIN: Well, in my opinion, you're closer than you've ever been in our country of getting to that. I think we're closer.

CARLSON: I feel closer to that. I mean, this is absolutely -- it's beyond insulting. It's oppressing the population.

MCLAUGHLIN: Yes.

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-na...over-asylum-seekers-southern-border-receiving
 
If he actually said this? I hardly ever watch Tucker, and I've seen the video at least three times now.


1:06 mark.
TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): What do you mean they are given a $1,400 Visa debit card?

MCLAUGHLIN: I haven't been able to confirm this yet. But I have been told that they're giving you, these immigrant families, they're in these hotels. They're giving them a $14, I mean, a $1,400 Visa card that they can go out and --

CARLSON: Why don't we have a real insurrection at some point? Like why would we put up with this?

MCLAUGHLIN: Well, in my opinion, you're closer than you've ever been in our country of getting to that. I think we're closer.

CARLSON: I feel closer to that. I mean, this is absolutely -- it's beyond insulting. It's oppressing the population.


MCLAUGHLIN: Yes.

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-na...over-asylum-seekers-southern-border-receiving
Thank you for posting the actual video since the OP was too lazy too.
 
Thank you for posting the actual video since the OP was too lazy too.

You're welcome. He wasn't too lazy to post the actual video, since he posted three videos on the way to making a substantive post in a well-documented thread.
 
Anyone else notice the rhetoric of the American rightwing is getting more and more violent?

Recently we had Tucker Carlson ask, 'Why don't we have a real insurrection?" That was his response to another conservative who claimed undocumented immigrants were getting $1400 Visa cards.



We had former national security advisor Michael Flynn agree with a QAnon nutter that we should have a coup like Myanmar did.



And now we have Congressman Matt Gaetz state, "We have a 2nd Amendment in this country and I think we have an obligation to use it." This was in reference to Silicon Valley and Big Tech.



How long before we have some nut assassinate a politician, media figure, or a CEO? This is absolutely ridiculous.

Have you noticed that the DEM's have kick out US from shelters to house Criminal illegals? Notice how DEM's are reversing all the AMERICA FIRST policies ? Notice how the DEM's are always willing to financially destroy America by making us go bankrupt ?

Now as for your delusion of Right Violence. Just remember Millions of Americans (mostly the Right leaning) have many guns! On top of that they collectively have like a Billion rounds of Ammo ! So it's pretty obvious that they are not the Crazies you wish they were...

It's sad that the Media has brain washed so many people in to thinking that people who still like, support, and want America to follow the US Constitution are "Right Wingers" !
 
If he actually said this, why not post the actual video (as opposed to a video of someone who isn't Tucker Carlson talking)?

Why do you even bother to post when you know full well he said it? Do you even know how to scroll through YouTube clips? It's at 2:35 if you actually care to see (I know you don't actually care).
 
You're welcome. He wasn't too lazy to post the actual video, since he posted three videos on the way to making a substantive post in a well-documented thread.
None of those videos were of Tucker Carlson.
 
Politics aside, to what extent should public figures bear responsibility for their violent rhetoric?

I am a huge supporter of the 1st Amendment. I don't think any of those individuals should be prosecuted in civilian court, although I can perhaps see a court martial for Flynn. Obviously I have no problem with publicly shaming them (also freedom of speech).
 
Why do you even bother to post when you know full well he said it? Do you even know how to scroll through YouTube clips? It's at 2:35 if you actually care to see (I know you don't actually care).
Notice how he does not even address the comment at all? He knows how wrong it is but won't say it. That is how the 3rd Reich got into power. Fear.
 
Why do you even bother to post when you know full well he said it? Do you even know how to scroll through YouTube clips? It's at 2:35 if you actually care to see (I know you don't actually care).
I scrolled through it and saw that it was a video of some random guy. I have better things to do than waste my time watching videos of left-wing ideologues in the hope that they might play a recording that you didn't consider important enough to link to directly.

I've watched the clip now since others had (after my first post) linked to the actual recording. Frankly, there was nothing wrong with what he said.
 
Learn to use YouTube.
I work for a living. I have better things to do than search aimlessly on YouTube for something you didn't consider sufficiently important to link directly.
 
None of those videos were of Tucker Carlson.

The first one was. I just watched it. From the guy who you claimed was too lazy to post it.

You're just wrong. I guess you forgive yourself for calling him lazy, so in your mind, you're doing just fine.
 
I work for a living. I have better things to do than search aimlessly on YouTube for something you didn't consider sufficiently important to link directly.
And again not one word about what Tucker said....
 
Have you noticed that the DEM's have kick out US from shelters to house Criminal illegals? Notice how DEM's are reversing all the AMERICA FIRST policies ? Notice how the DEM's are always willing to financially destroy America by making us go bankrupt ?

Dude, learn how to use apostrophes properly.
 
Have you noticed that the DEM's have kick out US from shelters to house Criminal illegals? Notice how DEM's are reversing all the AMERICA FIRST policies ? Notice how the DEM's are always willing to financially destroy America by making us go bankrupt ?

Now as for your delusion of Right Violence. Just remember Millions of Americans (mostly the Right leaning) have many guns! On top of that they collectively have like a Billion rounds of Ammo ! So it's pretty obvious that they are not the Crazies you wish they were...

It's sad that the Media has brain washed so many people in to thinking that people who still like, support, and want America to follow the US Constitution are "Right Wingers" !
What did you think the election was about? It was about ridding ourselves of Trump & MAGA. You don't get it . . .
 
I work for a living. I have better things to do than search aimlessly on YouTube for something you didn't consider sufficiently important to link directly.

Jesus Christ, I feel sorry for your boss considering the learned helplessness you're exhibiting. It's not that hard to scroll through an 8 minute clip to find what you're looking for. Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
I scrolled through it and saw that it was a video of some random guy. I have better things to do than waste my time watching videos of left-wing ideologues in the hope that they might play a recording that you didn't consider important enough to link to directly.

I've watched the clip now since others had (after my first post) linked to the actual recording. Frankly, there was nothing wrong with what he said.

From doubting it exists to a vice-signaling acceptance in a few minutes.

Sounds about right.
 
The first one was. I just watched it. From the guy who you claimed was too lazy to post it.

You're just wrong. I guess you forgive yourself for calling him lazy, so in your mind, you're doing just fine.
Scrolling through it showed it to be a video of someone else. Now that Geoist has given a timestamp, I see that it contains a clip of Carlson amidst that other guy's monologue.
And again not one word about what Tucker said....
Post 15.
Jesus Christ, I feel sorry for your boss considering the learned helplessness you're exhibiting. It's not that hard to scroll through an 8 minute clip to find what you're looking for. Stop embarrassing yourself.
If you paid me, I'd be willing to do research for you. I don't work for free though.
 
Frankly, there was nothing wrong with what he said.

Of course you have no problem with calls for insurrection. None of us are surprised.
 
If you paid me, I'd be willing to do research for you. I don't work for free though.

Of course a right winger thinks scrolling through an 8 minute YouTube clip is research. No wonder they can't get facts straight. 😂
 
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