Peter Dow
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Well it is one design idea and I have more. My latest idea is a telescopic rear axle to provide increased stability against roll overs.OMG, is this for real?
I don't think so but what about something like this then?No offense, Pete and I admire the effort, but something like that will only get people killed.
Thanks! :mrgreen:Okay, machineguns that don't require a gunner to stick his one and only head up exposed to enemy fire is a good thing. I'm reasonably sure that will be standard soon.
There is range of armoured personnel carriers now in operation in Iraq and Afghanistan - they are called "MRAP"s standing for "Mine Resistant Ambush Protected".What makes it anti-mine?
The first picture is the design which I named the topic title after - " Conjoined All-Terrain Anti-Mine Ambush Repellent Armoured Next-generation (CATAMARAN) Vehicle".Also, in the first picture it looks like you've got two of these conjoined side-by-side with steel crossbars... if so, that's not going to work. Too much width for urban ops, too awkward for open country.
Well you sound like an experienced solider. I am not - just a guy with some some good APC design ideas - more of an engineer and a scientist than a soldier.Better to use a remote-controlled vehicle with under-armor for the point-vehicle. If it sets off a mine powerful enough to destroy it, no lost personnel.
Well that was the idea of the V-shaped armour - to protect against bombs that APCs were not avoiding.However, the big prob in Afgan and Iraq is roadside bombs that are remote-detonated by an observer. They can decide to ignore the first vehicle/etc to set it off on the juiciest target. Not sure how to beat that without heavy plate armor underneath, and even then a shaped charge can be a problem.
Thanks again! :mrgreen:Nice pics though. Keep thinking out of the box though, you might hit on something brilliant.
Well exactly; how big is an IED? It is like asking how big is a piece of string?MRAPs are a technical solution to a problem that really can't be solved technically. It is quite simple to make a mine that can disable an MBT or obliterate an MRAP, as evidenced by the successful IED attacks on M1's.
Again let me stress I appreciate improving MRAPs is not a substitute for a better strategy.The only reason that MRAPs are useful is because thankfully most of the insurgency has proven to be fairly incompetent.
If our enemies showed the same ingenuity as the NVA did in Vietnam, no vehicle in existence would be safe.
Daily patrolling into unsecured areas results in an unavoidable risk of ambush by mine. Since our current war strategy is patrol around for a decade until the local government somehow manages to stabilize the region, we are vulnerable to heavy losses if our weakness is exploited. The only reason the plan has worked so far is because the enemy isn't able to consistently muster up some basic technical skills. If the guys who took out the Abrams managed to share their knowledge, the **** would really hit the fan.
MRAPs are a technical solution to a problem that really can't be solved technically. It is quite simple to make a mine that can disable an MBT or obliterate an MRAP, as evidenced by the successful IED attacks on M1's. The only reason that MRAPs are useful is because thankfully most of the insurgency has proven to be fairly incompetent. If our enemies showed the same ingenuity as the NVA did in Vietnam, no vehicle in existence would be safe. Daily patrolling into unsecured areas results in an unavoidable risk of ambush by mine. Since our current war strategy is patrol around for a decade until the local government somehow manages to stabilize the region, we are vulnerable to heavy losses if our weakness is exploited. The only reason the plan has worked so far is because the enemy isn't able to consistently muster up some basic technical skills. If the guys who took out the Abrams managed to share their knowledge, the **** would really hit the fan.
Well you sound like an experienced solider. I am not - just a guy with some some good APC design ideas - more of an engineer and a scientist than a soldier.
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thank you, exactly.
we have about as much chance of out-armoring the IED problem as ancient knights did of out-armoring the first firearms.
HUMPBAC is an APC designed for transporting troops and infantry equipment and you can't afford to move 20 tons per person all the time otherwise you'd put everyone in tanks. Clearly it is not an infantry fighting vehicle (no tracks, no big guns, no low profile) and not "battle ready" in that sense.I play Battlefield on PC.
We would die many times over in something like this.
Roads in the Afghan mountains, when they exist, don't exactly have a reputation for being... wide...
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