That's a rather absurd comment. You can't tell me that you would be so profoundly insensitive as to walk around in just about any state in the US with a swastika Tshirt on or waiving a flag with a swastika from your big ass truck. No, you wouldn't. Neither would you walk down any American street and starting flipping people your middle finger.
Just because that flag has been part of a particular state's flag for generations doesn't automatically make it right or proper. Y'all gotta be careful of trying to use that "that's the way it's always been" line for justification.
Which biased article should I read?
Any history textbook or educational website about the civil war would do.
Incredible. Simply freaking incredible. He seems to think that it was of no importance whatsoever that Mississippi didn't finalize ratification of the 13th Amendment until 2013...or, apparently, that they ratified it at all.
And yet conservatives and Republicans wonder why they lost the African-American vote....
From your link:
You do know what "circumstantial" means, don't you?
It means there's really no proof.
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So you are speaking for the entire south, but telling me not to speak for others, simply because you have a handful of inlaws who live here? :lol:
That's rich.
Dood. Cut the crap. How old are you?
It's like you're pretending the wild-ass **** that was going down all over the South to keep Apartheid in place and deny equal rights to blacks wasn't happening at that time --
Or the dogs weren't sicked on Civil Rights marchers
Or the Freedom Riders we're getting their heads bashed in
Or that Emmitt Till was just an anomoly
Or that Selma didn't happen
Or that Segregation now! Segregation tomorrow! Segregation forever! wasn't the rallying cry for millions of Southerns
Or that institutionalized White Supremacy didn't rule the day, and the South was bound and determined to keep it that way.
Only someone who ignores alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll that (plus much more) could say the placement then was just a benign toss to the Confederate slave-holding Centennial.
Here's something else: The centennial ended in 1961. It's still flying.
Everything you cited here has to do with the Civil Rights era. You're ready to take away a cultural symbol because some people used it in a racist manner during that era? ...
Oh - and - I'm very likely old enough to be your parent.
If you think that states' rights is some sort of code, you don't.
You should stop talking for the South because you are wrong. I am from the South, born and raised, and I live here now. I can promise you that many, white and black, do not feel this way.
Now go ask 39 million people, who live, and work, raise families, and die in the South, how they feel about having to do so under that flag. Ask them what the flag means to them.
Go ask them. I'll wait.
While you are bull****tin...then go ask the people in Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Gary and every major city in the country how much better THEIR lives are without that flag.
This smokescreen 'cause' is ****ing pathetic. You ought to be embarrassed.
Again...that all blather. You might want to read of the history of slavery in New York and other Northern states. New York clung to slavery as doggedly as the Southern states did while it was economically viable. And if you want to talk sheer brutality toward 'slaves' check on the native Indian tribes.No one doubts that racism is nationwide, as a matter of fact it's been a big topic lately. However, nothing that occurred in the non-Southern states compares to the inhumanity the South continued to delight in... until when? Until once again the government had to step in. If it wasn't about the right to treat blacks inhumanely, then why is that the thing that lasted the longest after the war ended? Why did the feds have to step in again to try to assure some sense of equality and justice?
The history of post-Civil War South doesn't reflect these claims. Yes, the North and liberals treated blacks as sub-human and somewhat still do, the South treated them as inhuman, and seems to still wish it could continue.
It does seem a bit on the lax side, but have you known government to ever be very effective?
I'm not sure the GOP "lost" the African American vote - anymore than I think the Democrat Party "earned" it.
Any history textbook or educational website about the civil war would do.
Again...that all blather. You might want to read of the history of slavery in New York and other Northern states. New York clung to slavery as doggedly as the Southern states did while it was economically viable. And if you want to talk sheer brutality toward 'slaves' check on the native Indian tribes.
This whole thing is promotion of a 'cause'. It's an excuse to create outrage and profit from it. You should be embarrassed.
Would that be a site telling the truth or merely one that tells the story like its author thinks it should be told?
lol. Unless you're an octogenarian, I doubt it.
There was nothing honorable about traitorous slavers who took up arms against the country. Honor the dead in graveyards and memorials and wave it on your property all you like.
The state has no business giving legitimacy to a flag with so many dark, racist, human-trafficking odors coming off of it.
Well, perhaps we're of similar age then. LOL
I see you still do not understand that your "traitorous slavers" weren't the average joe's that fought that war.
A total of seven states have incorporated the confederate flag, one version or another, into their actual state flag. I suppose those will be targeted next.
You cannot erase history by banning a symbol.
I don't think anyone wants to erase history. It happened. We should acknowledge that, and learn from it. But there is a big gap between erasing history and glorifying the mistakes our country made. Slavery happened, the civil war happened, flying a flag representing that era like a symbol of pride is unacceptable.
It does seem a bit on the lax side, but have you known government to ever be very effective?
I'm not sure the GOP "lost" the African American vote - anymore than I think the Democrat Party "earned" it.
I am not using that "justification" as I have made no claims about the CF being used or abandoned either way...
That said, answer clearly whether Southern State Flags from the seceeding nations should have their flags removed from government buildings as well, or not. They are every bit as racist as the CF is.
NY clung to slavery like the south did? Fact check that please. You are grossly misinformed. Within 10 years of the United states gaining thier independence NY was taking steps toward abolition. They had schools for blacks. They had some free blacks. A far cry from freedom, perfect or even good, but nowhere even close to what was happening in the south.
Hunh? "seceeding nations"? I assume you mean "seceding states"...and there should be nothing on their flags that references the Confederacy.
I made a typo... that really shouldn't be a "Hunh" moment.
And the flags themselve are references to the Confederacy.
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